What percent of Guys Get their Dream Sexy girls and what% even try?

[Untouchable_Fire]

Does your mom know what kind of son she has raised? Cause that would be a great shame for any mother on this planet. I really wonder about her charachter or your relationship with her if her son has such disrespect for women.

 

Men who struggle to connect with women, typically have crappy mothers.

 

The 8yo boy across the street from my grandma lives with his grandparents because his mother is a crack whore... well meth whore technically. Anyway, 2 months ago I went over to break up a squabble with some boys over there. The kid had drawn a picture of a woman on cardboard and was stabbing the genitals with a knife... and encouraging the other boys to do this as well. I freaked out and sent the kids home... then went and got his grandparents.

 

I've been told his mother would have sex with men in front of him as a child.

[udolipixie]

Men who struggle to connect with women, typically have crappy mothers.

 

The 8yo boy across the street from my grandma lives with his grandparents because his mother is a crack whore... well meth whore technically. Anyway, 2 months ago I went over to break up a squabble with some boys over there. The kid had drawn a picture of a woman on cardboard and was stabbing the genitals with a knife... and encouraging the other boys to do this as well. I freaked out and sent the kids home... then went and got his grandparents.

 

I've been told his mother would have sex with men in front of him as a child.

 

I think it's more of crappy parents or a crappy parent and a missing parent.

 

Where was his father?

[Woggle]

I hate men show me exactly where any of my statements showed or implied that?

 

My statements sarcastic comments parroting yours to show your that your statements about women are ridiculous do not count.

 

It is clear you don't think to highly of us. Just look at you saying it is an insult to compare us to dogs.

[udolipixie]

It is clear you don't think to highly of us. Just look at you saying it is an insult to compare us to dogs.

 

Oh so it's a reading comprehension problem is it?

 

Company? The dog is man's best friend.

 

 

It's also a woman's best friend as well....plenty of women get irate over men being compared to dogs because they say dogs are loyal, kind, and compassionate creatures.

 

Where in that sentence does it state or imply that I am one of those woen?

 

Where in that sentence does it state or imply that I believe that statement?

 

That statement was showing EP that dogs aren't just men's best friends. While he may think dogs can replace womens company there are women who think the same of men.

 

Odd how you can claim that sentence shows I hate men. When you have stated yourself more awful and demeaning things about women with th words I believe and since this women did that it shows what all women think on whatever matter while claiming you don't hate women in the same post.

[Elysian Powder]

It is clear you don't think to highly of us. Just look at you saying it is an insult to compare us to dogs.

 

Show me a woman who won't copy the same excuses of ''men oppressed women'' to justify the fact that most of everything that is, was, and will be, was done and will be done by men; show me a woman who is grateful for the blood shed by the Spartans to protect europe; show me a woman who puts flowers on the graves of the men who fought against Hitler so that decades past their sacrifice the result of protecting women from the clutches of Nazism animates itself in the comparison of dogs to men, that women make.

 

You know what? One day men will just tire of being the perpetual predators, oppressors, rapists, war-mongers and serial-killers that women so often depict us to be, and we'll pull the pug on civilization.

 

Say hello to the stone age, and this time there's no free meal ticket(men) to get you lot out of it.

[udolipixie]

Show me a woman who won't copy the same excuses of ''men oppressed women'' to justify the fact that most of everything that is, was, and will be, was done and will be done by men; show me a woman who is grateful for the blood shed by the Spartans to protect europe; show me a woman who puts flowers on the graves of the men who fought against Hitler so that decades past their sacrifice the result of protecting women from the clutches of Nazism animates itself in the comparison of dogs to men, that women make.

 

You know what? One day men will just tire of being the perpetual predators, oppressors, rapists, war-mongers and serial-killers that women so often depict us, and we'll pull the pug on civilization.

 

I hope women enjoy the stone age.

 

Yet again you equate modern men to actions men did in the past.

 

Only the positive ones though since you seem all upset when men also get tied down with past mens hateful, violent, and oppressive actions.

 

Instead of men coattail on past men actions while ignoring all the negative these men have done. Why not just be judged on what you personally have done that way as a man and your caliber is judged. Rather than creating some ideal of men that ignores all the negatives men have done.

 

If you're a military man whose been in war you're a Spartan.

 

If you're a man who is independent, self sufficient, and have a legal job you're a citizen like any other contributing member of society.

 

If you're a man who coattails of other mens actions then don't get p*ssy if others also weigh you down with those mens negative actions...aka if you want to claim men are protectors of women you can't get upset when others claim men are oppressors of women because both are true generalizations.

[Woggle]

Yet again you equate modern men to actions men did in the past.

 

Only the positive ones though since you seem all upset when men also get tied down with past mens hateful, violent, and oppressive actions.

 

Instead of men coattail on past men actions while ignoring all the negative these men have done. Why not just be judged on what you personally have done that way as a man and your caliber is judged. Rather than creating some ideal of men that ignores all the negatives men have done.

 

If you're a military man whose been in war you're a Spartan.

 

If you're a man who is independent, self sufficient, and have a legal job you're a citizen like any other contributing member of society.

 

If you're a man who coattails of other mens actions then don't get p*ssy if others also weigh you down with those mens negative actions...aka if you want to claim men are protectors of women you can't get upset when others claim men are oppressors of women because both are true generalizations.

 

What you are advocating is punishing innocent people for actions they had nothing to do with.

[udolipixie]

What you are advocating is punishing innocent people for actions they had nothing to do with.

 

What I am advocating is that if people want to coattail on their genders positives then they shouldn't complain when others tie them down with the negatives.

 

Where in this do you not get that and instead get me advocating the punishment of innocent people for actions they had nothing to do with?

If you're a man who coattails of other mens actions then don't get p*ssy if others also weigh you down with those mens negative actions...aka if you want to claim men are protectors of women you can't get upset when others claim men are oppressors of women because both are true generalizations.

 

 

Also how did you get that impression when I stated this:

Instead of men coattail on past men actions while ignoring all the negative these men have done. Why not just be judged on what you personally have done that way as a man and your caliber is judged. Rather than creating some ideal of men that ignores all the negatives men have done.

 

If you're a military man whose been in war you're a Spartan.

If you're a man who is independent, self sufficient, and have a legal job you're a citizen like any other contributing member of society.

[Elysian Powder]

Yet again you equate modern men to actions men did in the past.

 

What are you on about? The men who died to help out the victims of the twin towers terrorist act are part of the 19th century? The police man that makes sure women aren't raped belongs to the musketeers? The food you eat is grown from imaginary seeds that aren't planted by men?

 

The water you drink doesn't come from water factories that are created, and developed by the men you see in the bus?

 

What is this? You are not aware that astronomers advance their field everyday and some of them were born as recently as the year 1980.

 

Ungrateful and spoiled, but rest assured that if a woman is in need of my help I'll turn the other side of my face for it seems that the heroes, the scientists and the men who take care of everything and everyone died off centuries ago.

Edited September 25, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[udolipixie]

What are you on about?

What I am on about is that you're only connecting men to the positives and eliminating the negatives.

 

Also that men in the past didn't have much female counterparts and were the major sources and usually the sole source of the beginning while modern men have female counterparts who contribute, build upon sources already there, and create their own sources.

 

Big difference in playing fields past= mostly men building....modern= men & women contributing.

 

In the past men were the main builders of civilization and in our modern times men and women are pretty much equal contributors.

 

Also that the traits Spartans and etc were truly time based and most modern men aren't in the equivalent positions.

 

 

The men who died to help out the victims of the twin towers terrorist act are part off the 19th century? The police that makes sure that women aren't raped belong to the musketeers? The food you eat is grown from imaginary seeds that aren't planted by men?

 

The water you drink doesn't come from water factories that are created, and developed by the men you see in the bus?

 

Women also died to help out the victims.

 

Policewomen also ensure to keep sex crimes down.

 

The food people eat is also planted by women.

 

That water factories also use technology created by women.

 

In the past those duties would have been mainly men and in our modern times it is not. So it's not like those jobs are mostly male jobs like in the past were men were mainly doing these things so it could be considered a male contribution now it's both a female and male contribution.

 

 

What is this? You are not aware that astronomers advance their field everyday and some of them were born as recently as the year 1980.

 

I truly haven't seem much recent advancement in astronomy but I am aware that there are female astronomers who have made achievements.

 

 

 

Ungrateful and spoiled, but rest assured that if a woman is in need of my help I'll turn the other side of my face for it seems that the heroes, the scientists and the men who take care of everything and everyone died off centuries ago.

 

Ungrateful? Nope I'm thankful for the advancements civilization has. I just don't have this idealized view of men that you do. I am aware of the positives and negatives. Only I don't stick with one view aka only seeing the positives or only seeing the negatives.

 

Nor do I have this view that men o today are of the same caliber of the men in the past.

 

Spoiled? ...I'm not the one spouting off generalizations about my gender and only attributing the positive ones and ignoring the negative ones. I'm not the one equating men with this idealized generalization rather than having men judged on their caliber by their own actions...nor am I comparing modern men to accomplishing the same feats that men in the past have accomplished. I'm not the one who only wishes for the positives to be attributed to my gender and get upset when others do the same as me only with the negatives. Nor am I calling men Gods of animals based on the actions of certain men...rather than calling those certain men Gods of animals.

 

Okay don't help out a woman that is your decision just like it's a womans decision to bleed a man dry, date him and have him pay for her because she's bored, or commit paternity fraud.

Edited September 25, 2011 by udolipixie

[Woggle]

Okay don't help out a woman that is your decision just like it's a womans decision to bleed a man dry, date him and have him pay for her because she's bored, or commit paternity fraud.

 

 

So you condone this yet you do not hate men?

[udolipixie]

So you condone this yet you do not hate men?

 

Where in that statement do I state that I condone the behavior?

Okay don't help out a woman that is your decision just like it's a womans decision to bleed a man dry, date him and have him pay for her because she's bored, or commit paternity fraud.

 

I'm just stating okay that's his decision. Not that I'm okay with his decision.

 

In fact if anything you should be asking if I condone his behavior since the word okay is next to his decision not to help out women.

 

Just because I'm okay with people having the right to decide what to do doesn't mean I'm okay with their decision.

 

It's a woman's decision whether she bleeds a man dry, use him for entertainment, or commit paternity fraud.

 

It's a man decision whether he wants to help out a woman, call them cum dumpsters, or think they are inferior.

 

People will do what they do....when it crosses into legal territory that's when individualism is a problem.

 

Stating that people can decide what to do /= I condone the behavior.

[Elysian Powder]

Okay don't help out a woman

 

Why would I? Aren't women equal to men? Isn't Buffy the vampire slayer going to help you out? And how can you compare a man's refusal to donate his life to a woman(anything can happen to the white knight) with women doing all of that, a more than natural occurrence?

 

Men have huge backs, bro. We've been taking care of all of you since time began and honestly; we're getting tired of being belittled and of being treated like crap.

[AHardDaysNight]

The same old gender war. Blah blah blah.

 

Instead of trying to relate to women's bodies, maybe try relating to women as people?

 

Yeah sure, it may not score you a date. But at least you won't be so goddamn bitter!

[udolipixie]

Why would I?

Basic human need to help other human beings and living animals out when you can and the situation arises....you know empathy, sympathy, compassion....maybe you don't?

 

Aren't women equal to men? Isn't Buffy the vampire slayer going to help you out? And how can you compare a man's refusal to donate his life to a woman(anything can happen to the white knight) with women doing all of that, a more than natural occurrence?

Apparently we're not equal in helping those in need when we can and the situation arises.

 

I could state in the case of women using men: Aren't men superior to women according to you and God of all animals? Isn't your superior male intellect going to be able to spot a user? Isn't your superiority as a man mean in the end you'll win out?

 

As for the comparison I'm using the baseline of lacking human decency to not engage in behavior that at the time help prevent harming another human being.

 

At the time of a woman being in need you can assist her.

 

At the time of being married you can decide not to commit paternity fraud.

 

 

Men have huge backs, bro. We've been taking care of all of you since time began and honestly; we're getting tired of being belittled and of being treated like crap.

 

No different from a woman stating that women have been oppressed and abused by women since time began and honestly we're tired of being objectified and of being treated like we're subhuman and inferior.

 

I just love turnarounds.

 

In all seriousness though both genders are belittled and both genders treat one another like crap.

 

As for the men taking care of all of women since time began....I like how you continue to go for the positives and ignore the negatives...men have also raped, beaten, abused, mistreated, and denied women rights since time began....love those turnarounds

[Elysian Powder]

The same old gender war. Blah blah blah.

 

Instead of trying to relate to women's bodies, maybe try relating to women as people?

 

Yeah sure, it may not score you a date. But at least you won't be so goddamn bitter!

 

Maybe you should stop being a virgin so that you can talk on even grounds with the grown-ups?

 

Basic human need to help other human beings and living animals out when you can and the situation arises....you know empathy, sympathy, compassion....maybe you don't

 

Yeah, I do not know any of that. I'm not part of the sex that sends their unborn children down the toilet because they don't feel like having them or don't have the money to raise them.

Edited September 26, 2011 by Elysian Powder

[udolipixie]

Maybe you should stop being a virgin so that you can talk on even grounds with the grown-ups?

 

Losing your virginity does not make you a grown-up to most people.

 

Plenty of 12 year olds running around having sex...I don't consider them grown ups because they aren't independent or self-sufficient and don't have morality/ethics life experiences and wisdom.

 

Also in your logic does how much sex you have correlate to how grown up you are? If so then you perhaps you may want to cue that those who call sluts little children or childish are incorrect

[Elysian Powder]

Isn't your superior male intellect going to be able to spot a user? Isn't your superiority as a man mean in the end you'll win out?

 

Men survived by learning how to manipulate the world, and women survived by learning how to manipulate men. You tell me how men are going to stop being used by women - or how men can spot a user - when most women use men in one way or another?

[Josephina]

Nah most men feel they settled even if they are in love. If Megan Fox came along most would trade in their wives and gf's without blinking an eye and that is the truth.

They convince themselves that they are in love because thats all they could get in life "looks wise". If they become successful later on and worth millions, the wife they love will be he first one to go and traded in like a car for a younger model.

 

I didn't read through all the pages, but this stuck out to me. There is a certain degree of truth to this, and it made me snicker. My soon-to-be-XH started telling me a few years ago that if Shakira ever showed up at our door he'd pack my crap & throw it on the lawn, lol. It became somewhat of a joke between us, but it does have a ring of truth. Although, I'm average looking, and at times have been slightly overweight (still shopped in regular stores). He loved me the most and married me at my heaviest, and when at my thinnest (about a size 4 or so) he was quite jealous and uncomfortable.

 

On the flipside, I don't think I'd have traded him for a better looking guy. Now that I will be back on the market again, I would be looking for someone more intellectual, or interested in the same kind of conversation. If a drop dead gorgeous dim wit wanted to date me, I'd run away. Fast.

 

Keep in mind that the most important measure of what is successful in finding a mate might be looks when you are young, but other things will become glaringly important as you become more mature. Are looks important? Yes, to some degree. But you have to love them enough to stick through a disfiguring accident or medical concern, lest something bad should happen.

[Elysian Powder]

Losing your virginity does not make you a grown-up to most people.

 

Plenty of 12 year olds running around having sex...I don't consider them grown ups because they aren't independent or self-sufficient and don't have morality/ethics life experiences and wisdom.

 

Also in your logic does how much sex you have correlate to how grown up you are? If so then you perhaps you may want to cue that those who call sluts little children or childish are incorrect

 

lol, you do have the touch to take everything out of it's context to infuriate the person you're talking to, and you have the gift of avoiding everything that you don't like by changing the course of the conversation by coming up with something or anything that has nothing to do with what is being discussed. still cute, though.

 

The guy to whom I replied to is a bona-fine white knight. His opinion concerning women is of no importance to me and it'd be ridiculous to listen to anything he has to say. No one is going to ask the Pope advice on women..

[Elysian Powder]

I didn't read through all the pages, but this stuck out to me. There is a certain degree of truth to this, and it made me snicker. My soon-to-be-XH started telling me a few years ago that if Shakira ever showed up at our door he'd pack my crap & throw it on the lawn, lol. It became somewhat of a joke between us, but it does have a ring of truth. Although, I'm average looking, and at times have been slightly overweight (still shopped in regular stores). He loved me the most and married me at my heaviest, and when at my thinnest (about a size 4 or so) he was quite jealous and uncomfortable.

 

On the flipside, I don't think I'd have traded him for a better looking guy. Now that I will be back on the market again, I would be looking for someone more intellectual, or interested in the same kind of conversation. If a drop dead gorgeous dim wit wanted to date me, I'd run away. Fast.

 

Keep in mind that the most important measure of what is successful in finding a mate might be looks when you are young, but other things will become glaringly important as you become more mature. Are looks important? Yes, to some degree. But you have to love them enough to stick through a disfiguring accident or medical concern, lest something bad should happen.

 

Most women don't marry the men they want, nor are they in relationships with their first pick; they are with the man who'll have them.

 

Fair trade, no?

[udolipixie]

Men survived by learning how to manipulate the world, and women survived by learning how to manipulate men. You tell me how men are going to stop being used by women - or how men can spot a user - when most women use men in one way or another?

 

Hmm so men aren't so superior, aren't that godly of animals, and aren't these idealized portrayals of only positivity as you claimed?

 

Quite odd you think men are incapable of being able to spot being used by women due to it being because it's not his survival mechanism. It's odd because women's gender haven't stopped many from learning how to manipulate the world and contribute. So if men are superior to women and gods of all animals according to you how come they can't learn when someone is manipulating?

 

I mean after all some of the inferior sex according to you learned how to do what men did so why can't most of the superior sex and gods of all animals at least learn how to spot what women are doing?

 

I'd think spotting versus learning how to do it should be easy for the according to you superior sex.

[AHardDaysNight]

Maybe you should stop being a virgin so that you can talk on even grounds with the grown-ups?

 

You offering? *wink*

 

[Elysian Powder]

You offering? *wink*

 

 

I could introduce you to women, but you'd have to stop staring at the ground and you'd have to stop acting like a lost boy looking for a mother in wendy darling.

[udolipixie]

lol, you do have the touch to take everything out of it's context to infuriate the person you're talking to

 

What am I taking out of context? I stayed in the context.

 

You stated

Maybe you should stop being a virgin so that you can talk on even grounds with the grown-ups?

 

I stated

Losing your virginity does not make you a grown-up to most people.

 

Plenty of 12 year olds running around having sex...I don't consider them grown ups because they aren't independent or self-sufficient and don't have morality/ethics life experiences and wisdom.

 

Also in your logic does how much sex you have correlate to how grown up you are? If so then you perhaps you may want to cue that those who call sluts little children or childish are incorrect

 

So it's only understandable to go along with the ridiculousness of this statement and ask if how much sex you have correlate to how much of a grown up you are.

 

 

 

and you have the gift of avoiding everything that you don't like by changing the course of the conversation by coming up with something or anything that has nothing to do with what is being discussed. still cute, though.[/quote[

In case you're forgetting you did bring it into discussion by posting it in the thread. So I chose to discuss that.

 

I haven't avoided anything or changed the course of the conversation.

 

In fact posted my response to your previous comment before your virginity comment was even posted. So at the time there was nothing more to discuss on the whole thing AHardDaysNight called a gender war because you didn't post a response I had seen at the time.

 

Considering that you edited your post at the time when I was typing I didn't see this when I was poking fun at the whole virginity grown up thing:

Maybe you should stop being a virgin so that you can talk on even grounds with the grown-ups?

 

Yeah, I do not know any of that. I'm not part of the sex that sends their unborn children down the toilet because they don't feel like having them or don't have the money to raise them.

 

On that note about that not sure what any of that "I'm not part of the sex" bit has to do with your own level of empathy, sympathy, and compassion.

 

If you got that I was implying women were had these concepts more than men and that's why you felt the need to add in the bit about I'm not part of the sex that...then you are seriously overreaching there. I could just as easily say you don't know any of that because you're part of the sex that rapes, beats, mutilates, and mistreats women and runs out on your kids if I was trying to use generalizations to slam the male gender.

 

 

I was talking about your understanding of those concepts on an individual level not based on your gender:

Basic human need to help other human beings and living animals out when you can and the situation arises....you know empathy, sympathy, compassion....maybe you don't?

 

 

The guy to whom I replied to is a bona-fine white knight. His opinion concerning women is of no importance to me and it'd be ridiculous to listen to anything he has to say. No one is going to ask the Pope advice on women..

What does that have anything to do with the virginity level grownup thing you could have just chose to ignore his comment if you felt that way about him.

Edited September 26, 2011 by udolipixie
quoting, I put AHardsDayLife instead of AHardDaysNight