Why does no one else think strip clubs are just plain WRONG???

[Fritz]

and 'just looking at a naked woman means you would prefer schtupping her to me',

 

 

Ahh, schtupping.. a classic term and one of my favs . That and "flagrante delicto".

[senorita29]

What kind of society do we live in where "going to the strippers" for a bachelor party is almost a "right of passage" for guys. A night where 'boys will be boys' and there girlfriends or fiances are supposed to just 'suck it up' or 'look the other way'! I have to agree that it is almost disgusting. Do that **** when you are single, not attachments, no girlfriends, fiances or significant others. Once you enter into a serious relationship leave it at the door OR take me with you to the strippers. Those are the only two options!

 

It basically boils down to respect for each other and if it bothers you that much then your boyfriend should want to stop going.

 

Thats just my opion though!

[Fedup&givingup]

And I've been to strip clubs. It's definitely the dark side, and 9 out of 10 times...those girls are doped up.

 

OOOooooo, classay!

[Bill]

Originally posted by dreaming4ever

THANK YOU BILL!!

Finally a guy that agrees with me!

 

You are welcome.

[WWDDFD]

Originally posted by dreaming4ever

Hi,

I just don't get it!! How can people think that there's nothing wrong with going to strip clubs? Honestly it doesn't make any sense. Especially the ritual of a guy going to a strip club with his buddies and getting a few lap dances on his last night of freedom before getting married. So....the point of this would be for the guy who is in a COMMITTED relationship to have one last little "fling" before he gets married to the one he loves forever and ever?? That just seems SO DISGUSTING to me...am I the only person who thinks this?? How gross is it that your guy is going to look at these perfect women and then come home and want to sleep with YOU, while he thinks of her?? Can we say EWWWWW?

 

I would NEVER want to go to a strip club with mostly naked males. I would feel so guilty and I just plain wouldn't want to go cuz I'm sure I would much rather spend time with my guy, doesn't that make sense?? Can someone explain how people do this and why??? I just don't get it and the fact that people think there's nothing wrong with it makes me sick to my stomach!

 

 

Madame, while I myself would never dream of setting foot in such an establishment, one must respect the facts:

 

A) Some women like to be strippers

B) Some men like to watch strippers

 

Let them do their own thing, and find a nice guy (like me!) who doesn't like strippers.

[Arie]

I love these topics. I love reading both sides of the story. I'm not sure how I feel one way or the other. I see good points comming from both sides but....

 

guys...if it's not a big deal...if it's really means nothing to you then WHY put your women through so much pain in going anyway when you KNOW it hurts her so much?

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by Arie

if it's really means nothing to you then WHY put your women through so much pain in going anyway when you KNOW it hurts her so much?

Couldn't I say that when a woman deprives me of an outing with my friend because she doesn't have the RESPECT and TRUST for my ability to control myself that hurts me? If you loved me, why can't you trust me?

 

*Everything* goes both ways.

[Kate]

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[arie]

But Dyemaker...why can't your outing be a football game or the beach...just something other then going ogle over naked women? She isn't thinking that you are going to cheat on her, she is just hurt that you would go somewhere that would encourge you to have sexual thoughts of being with other women?

[UCFKevin]

Well, I guess my ex was a saint, because when the topic of stripclubs came up, she simply said, "If you're coming home to me, then I don't care." Either that or she'd want to go with me.

 

Self esteem. Trust. That's what it's all about.

 

She understood it. Wish you gals could too.

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by arie

But Dyemaker...why can't your outing be a football game or the beach...just something other then going ogle over naked women?

During football games, there's a lot of downtime. Luckily, they bring out women to dance and 'cheer' while we oggle them.

And why do you think we go to the beach?

She isn't thinking that you are going to cheat on her, she is just hurt that you would go somewhere that would encourge you to have sexual thoughts of being with other women?

The strip club doesn't encourage us to have sexual thoughts about other women, that's why we have penises (penii?). We don't need encouragement, it just happens. Cheap motels, those are sexual outings. Strip clubs are *not* sexual outings, they're social outings.

[in love w/a muslim]

Originally posted by zarathustra

Maybe because it's not plain WRONG.

 

It's just entertainment.

 

they are wrong... if your with some one there is no reason to be going with some of your homie to go look at other chiks take there clothes off when you have a beautyful woman at home waiting for you.... that you could make love with ... ((((( hence that , that the wife is a beautyful woman taking her clothes off for you))))) so why bother........ i dont need to go to strip clubs and were i live ((( las vegas)))) there are tons of them ..... and i dont go to them because i find going to them slightly unfaithful to my man... and why do i need to go to them when i have the one i love. is there at home with me when i can see him naked whenever him or my self feel like it........

 

--Natalee

[UCFKevin]

Do you ever read romance novels?

 

Or see romantic movies and fantasize?

 

Think about how you wish your man would do that? Or if it was you in those novels or movies?

 

Oh wait. Let me guess. THAT'S okay.

[dyermaker]

Why do you gals need to talk on the phone with your girlfriends when you have a perfectly good man to talk to at home?

[UCFKevin]

Ohhh SNAP!

[dyermaker]

Originally posted by in love w/a muslim

because we like to have friends to talk to you dumb ****!!

What? You like to have a good time with your friends? And it has nothing to do with inadequacies at home?

 

Hmm...

[Fedup&givingup]

Ewwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm waiting with baited breath to see what Zara's response to THIS one is going to be....whoa!

[chrissy4534624]

GIRL i soooo agree with u....dont listen to these tarts

then again im a jealous, insecure person myself... most of the time hahaha

 

personally i know too many dudes who brag about banging strippers, men who are married and say they paid a girl in the back room for a little head, and have spent my time with the boys at the strip clubs. the same dudes that have visited hookers and would bang a stripper if there wife/girlfriend wasn't looking in a HEARTBEAT.

guys enjoy looking at trash, they also want a freaky wife in bed but want her to be an angel out on the street.

 

as for whoever said they did a report and that guys are just there for visual and that they are quiet compared to women...THATS CUZ Dudes are scum and they are sitting there quiet because they are just dreaming that no one else was around them so they could just jack off right there. they are quiet because they get sucked into the fantasy of some slutty chick undressing infront of them...women are loud and obnoxious at strip clubs cuz they arent getting OFF on it. Dudes get OFF on going, whoever says its for entertainment or bonding with the other boys, thats just plain garbage. guys are scum thats all. im military and have seen plenty of dudes cheat on their wifes while away temporary dude and pay for cheap blow jobs from the trash that work at the strip clubs. also i bartended at a strip joint for a few minutes before i was totally disgusted with it, thus im an expert, men are scum.

 

case closed. dump him and buy a dildo cuz they are all the same, i doubt ull find a dude who doesn't enjoy going to the strip joints...but u will find ones who lie and say they dont, wouldn't, wont, blah blah blah.

[dyermaker]

I can't believe that the men don't see a huge issue in the fact that these girls aren't trusting you enough to have a simple night out with your friends, that would be very upsetting.

 

Originally posted by in love w/a muslim

if you wanna keep her happy it wont hurt to not go to the strip clubs......

No, I'm lucky enough to have a female that wouldn't use our love or her happiness as a pyschological weapon.

[zarathustra]

oh! and i think that zara fool is a pig.... and probably isnt in a relationship himself. and if he is its probably not a very honest one. thats not hard to tell by the coments he gives

 

Wow, yet another LoveShack admirer!

 

Was it something I said?

 

I love you too, sweetie.

[arie]

UCFKevin - I too have an ex that I didnt care if he went strip clubs either. If he went I never gave it a second thought. But is it maybe that I didnt care as much for him as some of these girls do about their men? After all, he is my ex. Careful guys, you might get what you wish for.

 

Hmm, romance novels? Never read one. Are they really that good? Gonna have to pick one of those up. hehe

 

Dyermaker - I would hope that when you go to the beach...and I am assuming you go with your wife and kids that that is not why you go. I go to the beach to surf and have fun. I doubt that to many women worry about their men going to the beach unless a girl comes up to the man and start swinging her tw*t around in the air and in your face. That would be a problem.

 

And how can you compare girls talking on the phone with friends to guys going to a strip club? It's to bad there isn't a club called weaners where guys shake it in your girls face and rub it all over your girl. Now that would be a comparison.

 

Also Dyermaker if strip clubs are not sexual outings then take it to hooters or something. Plenty to look at there and not have something grinding on you...you still get to look. There! Everyone is happy. =p

 

 

Wow, this thread is really getting heated. I once told my friend..."to bad women don't think like men" and he said.."no, that wouldn't be good because then everyone would be scr*wing everyone. I hope my bleeped out languages don't offend anyone here. Sorry if it does.

 

Ok guys...this is where women learn to think like they do. When a girl turns anywhere from 13 to 15 years old she starts getting hit on CONSTANTLY! She is at first discusted by this because it is mostly older married type men doing it...gives them the creeps. Then as they get older...early 20's she realized hey...I have the power! I have a special power over men and I can use it to get what I want. And it of course depends on the girl how she uses that power. Then she learns...wait! Every girl has this power. Any girl out there can have my man if she want to. It's her choice not his. I would honeslty say that 50% of the men out there in relationships right now I could have if I wanted to. We learn that this is just how men are. And along with that the constant conversations that we here men have amongst themselves. Every chick that walks by is HOT! We learn that men have no control over their sexuality! Like Dyer there that goes to the beach only to look at the women and not to just have fun at the beach.

 

Oops sorry out of time....posting some more later.

[moimeme]

It's to bad there isn't a club called weaners where guys shake it in your girls face and rub it all over your girl.

 

There are clubs like that. I doubt they're called 'weaners' since it would bring up images of little animals, but they do exist.

[reasontosigh]

It's to bad there isn't a club called weaners where guys shake it in your girls face and rub it all over your girl. ...

 

I hear there is one but it's called a Marilyn Manson concert.

[zarathustra]

I hear there is one but it's called a Marilyn Manson concert.

 

Now that's this pig's fantasy!

[Fandango]

Newsflash, they's gonna look. I don't get the whole strip club thingy either. I've never been to see male strippers, and quite honestly, I would not be interested in seeing a man dancing around in a silver thong..*gag* and I wouldn't waste my time or money to see it. I'd rather go to the local garage and watch the cutie that works there do an oil change fully clothed in oily coveralls.

 

Men however are VERY different than us women, I see no point in trying to completely understand "why?" Cause it's kind of irrelevant, that's just who they are and your not going to change it, either you will marry the pigdog for who he is cause you love him, or you'll be alone, cause the ones that aren't like that are few and far between.....or gay.

 

I used to have the same opinion as you did, before I lost 50 ugly lbs. and I had little or not self esteem, I knew those girls looked better than I did naked, so I didn't want him to look at them, or....possibly compare me to them....Now, well..I guess I'm older and don't give a rat's ass.