Women who say "I have so much more in common with men"

[thatdog]

Being friends with a male is not "leading them on", Dreamgirl. In fact, it's quite presumptuous and narcicisstic to assume that every single guy that's ever showed any interest in being friends with you wants to be with you or even sleep with you. Some people are, ya know, nice, and like to be friendly with everyone, not just people of the same sex.

 

 

Yes I agree BUT you have to be willing and able to spot the difference. One girl I dated years ago had heaps of guy friends. Some of them were legitimately good friends, but several of them were obviously looking for more. Most people could tell be she couldn't/refused to acknowledge this fact and it was one of the big issues that caused us to break up. She was insecure and seemed to need that validation of attention from all these guys. she never said it this way but she often argued that YES they did tried to sleep with her before (most of them multiple times) BUT she told them she just wanted to be friends and they said 'ok'. Now years later she seems to have matured a lot and got rid of all the old 'friends'. She still kept the real ones and replaced the others with female friends and seems to be much more centered and happy now.

I'm not saying all girls that predominantly have male friends are this way, but in my experience a lot of them do seem to have this problem. at least up to their mid twenties.

[lemonlegs]

Yes I agree BUT you have to be willing and able to spot the difference. One girl I dated years ago had heaps of guy friends. Some of them were legitimately good friends, but several of them were obviously looking for more. Most people could tell be she couldn't/refused to acknowledge this fact and it was one of the big issues that caused us to break up. She was insecure and seemed to need that validation of attention from all these guys. she never said it this way but she often argued that YES they did tried to sleep with her before (most of them multiple times) BUT she told them she just wanted to be friends and they said 'ok'. Now years later she seems to have matured a lot and got rid of all the old 'friends'. She still kept the real ones and replaced the others with female friends and seems to be much more centered and happy now.

I'm not saying all girls that predominantly have male friends are this way, but in my experience a lot of them do seem to have this problem. at least up to their mid twenties.

 

I'm sure most people speculate that about women who have male friends, sure. Being a 19-year-old girl who HAS a boyfriend but mostly talks to guys at school, I know that's why I don't seek out male friends. For example, my closest friend at school I met through our job. Previously, I didn't talk to many people at school. I thought he was super nice and we got along and had lots of stuff to talk about. He's usually the person that I spend the most time with at school. I've had a few drinks with him once after an exam but don't see him at all outside of school or work. Whatever. My boyfriend claims to "not like him" because he THINKS he has a thing for me, but I find that kind of insulting that people would assume a guy would ONLY associate with me because I look good to them. I like to think that this guy talks to me because he finds me intelligent and interesting (he does VERY well in school, and I think that's awesome). Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope that guys may find a friend in me for more than just the hopes of getting sex. Plus he knows that I have a boyfriend because I talk about him constantly.

 

Furthermore, I've had 2 or 3 really close male friends throughout highschool who I still talk to. My boyfriend doesn't have a problem with these guys though cause he hangs out with them as well. However, both of these two friends HAVE led me to believe they at least find me to be attractive. Not in a creepy way, but just through subtle things they have said.

 

But I do ALSO have female friends. I'm just not a girl that's into the whole "let's have a girly night, no boys allowed!". I think guys can definitely add a level of fun to a party that girls can't. I can't explain it, I just feel like that.

[Els]

There's opportunity to cheat everywhere, but some folks have integrity.

 

Indeed. I wonder if the OP supports having women only be allowed to go out with a male guardian, to prevent 'opportunities to cheat', as well.

 

If you're not catty or competitive, I'd be curious why you singled out my post amongst a number of other women who've also criticized the "I prefer men as friends" mindset.

 

I don't have any preferences beyond finding different commonalities with both male and female friends. They're all people.

 

Come now, if responding to only a particular post within a thread makes someone catty and competitive, then 90% of LS falls under the category, be they male or female. The OP is evidently a troll, and I can't be bothered to waste paragraphs of good sound logic on her. Other than that, I simply found the 'extremism' mindset that you and D'lish espoused to be devoid of logic and slightly hypocritical, so I wished to challenge it. I was also banking on a decent rational discussion with you. Sufficient answer?

[DreamerGirl27]

I'm sure most people speculate that about women who have male friends, sure. Being a 19-year-old girl who HAS a boyfriend but mostly talks to guys at school, I know that's why I don't seek out male friends. For example, my closest friend at school I met through our job. Previously, I didn't talk to many people at school. I thought he was super nice and we got along and had lots of stuff to talk about. He's usually the person that I spend the most time with at school. I've had a few drinks with him once after an exam but don't see him at all outside of school or work. Whatever. My boyfriend claims to "not like him" because he THINKS he has a thing for me, but I find that kind of insulting that people would assume a guy would ONLY associate with me because I look good to them. I like to think that this guy talks to me because he finds me intelligent and interesting (he does VERY well in school, and I think that's awesome). Maybe I'm being naive, but I would hope that guys may find a friend in me for more than just the hopes of getting sex. Plus he knows that I have a boyfriend because I talk about him constantly.

 

Furthermore, I've had 2 or 3 really close male friends throughout highschool who I still talk to. My boyfriend doesn't have a problem with these guys though cause he hangs out with them as well. However, both of these two friends HAVE led me to believe they at least find me to be attractive. Not in a creepy way, but just through subtle things they have said.

 

But I do ALSO have female friends. I'm just not a girl that's into the whole "let's have a girly night, no boys allowed!". I think guys can definitely add a level of fun to a party that girls can't. I can't explain it, I just feel like that.

 

Why would you care if a guy just wants to know you for sex...because I have to correct you. When a guy likes a girl or a girl likes a guy it's not all about sex. It's emotional, mental, physical. It's everything. So, when guys and girls hang out together, they tend to get their hearts attached as well as their bodies. It's not all about sex.

[donnamaybe]

Why would you care if a guy just wants to know you for sex...because I have to correct you. When a guy likes a girl or a girl likes a guy it's not all about sex. It's emotional, mental, physical. It's everything. So, when guys and girls hang out together, they tend to get their hearts attached as well as their bodies. It's not all about sex.

 

But unfortunately, and mistakenly, in your young naivete you believe every guy wants you sexually. I had a friend who, in her youth, also used to be under that assumption. She had her self absorbed bubble popped and came to a few hard realizations.

 

It's about feeling like a person rather than walking, talking T&A.

[DreamerGirl27]

But unfortunately, and mistakenly, in your young naivete you believe every guy wants you sexually. I had a friend who, in her youth, also used to be under that assumption. She had her self absorbed bubble popped and came to a few hard realizations.

 

It's about feeling like a person rather than walking, talking T&A.

 

I repeat, it's not all about sex.

 

This is sort of true and sort of not. I'm going to contradict myself, here.

 

Men are walking horn dogs. They all wants sex from anything that moves. Any guy who says otherwise, is lying, to get sex. Any guy who says it flat out how it is, is telling the truth, to get sex. Any guy who says both sides are right, is manipulating, to get sex. Any guy...to get sex, to get sex, to get sex, etc.

 

MEN WANT SEX. period. Flat out. End of story.

 

women: You will never find a man that wants to be just your friend. You are lying to yourself if you do.

 

A guy/girl friendship, where sex is the number one common denominator of the topic of discussion...is looking to get screwed.

 

A guy/girl friendship, where relationships is the number one common denominator of the topic of discussion...is looking to get screwed.

 

I hate to burst all your pretty little bubbles, but men are pigs. Especially in their twenties. The only reason one will back off, IS IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. Then you really test the guy to see if he loves you or if he is just sticking around to get in your pants.

 

That's the difficult part. Well...at least for most women. I have no problem keeping my pants on until a guy wants to marry me. I don't care if I'm 75 years old before I lose my virginity, either.

 

Sex is not important to me.

 

Love conquers all.

[DreamerGirl27]

A guy/girl friendship, where Chinese food is the number one common denominator of the topic of discussion...is looking to get screwed.

 

There is one common denominator between men and that is=they all want sex.

 

There is one common denominator between women and that is=whether we give it to them or not.

 

I probably don't keep male friends very easily, because I am one stubborn cookie and there aint no chance in Heaven or Hell that I'd let any guy take anything from me. I have a life. I have goals. I'm driven. I want to reach those goals before I just give it all away.

 

The song, "Don't Tell Me" by Avril Lavigne would be good for all of you to hear in this thread.

 

I hate to break it to all of you sweethearts, but. You don't understand men. You probably also don't understand yourselves.

 

Guy "friends" will flock to an "easy" target. But you'll never be marriage material to them.

 

If you wanna be platinum to a guy. Don't put out. Until he has you walking down the aisle.

 

I'm a Christian.

 

Sue me.

[donnamaybe]

So odd. My statement that you think every guy wants to have sex with you is bolder. Then you say it isn't all about sex. Then you say all guys will f anything.

 

Things are becoming disturbingly clear. Come back and read this 20 years from now and you will be mortified by what you find. And using a pop song as a learning tool? Really? Wow.

[threebyfate]

I repeat, it's not all about sex.

 

This is sort of true and sort of not. I'm going to contradict myself, here.

 

Men are walking horn dogs. They all wants sex from anything that moves. Any guy who says otherwise, is lying, to get sex. Any guy who says it flat out how it is, is telling the truth, to get sex. Any guy who says both sides are right, is manipulating, to get sex. Any guy...to get sex, to get sex, to get sex, etc.

 

MEN WANT SEX. period. Flat out. End of story.

 

women: You will never find a man that wants to be just your friend. You are lying to yourself if you do.

 

A guy/girl friendship, where sex is the number one common denominator of the topic of discussion...is looking to get screwed.

 

A guy/girl friendship, where relationships is the number one common denominator of the topic of discussion...is looking to get screwed.

 

I hate to burst all your pretty little bubbles, but men are pigs. Especially in their twenties. The only reason one will back off, IS IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. Then you really test the guy to see if he loves you or if he is just sticking around to get in your pants.

 

That's the difficult part. Well...at least for most women. I have no problem keeping my pants on until a guy wants to marry me. I don't care if I'm 75 years old before I lose my virginity, either.

 

Sex is not important to me.

 

Love conquers all.

Straight up Dreamer, you NEED to have some sex.

[DreamerGirl27]

Straight up Dreamer, you NEED to have some sex.

 

No, I NEED to get married first.

[threebyfate]

No, I NEED to get married first.

No, you NEED to get laid so it doesn't constitute 150% of your gender related thoughts!

 

My advice to you in one of your first threads was not to erode on your morals but man, you are so ready for it, it's become an obsession.

 

Losing your hymen is no big deal. Really.

[DreamerGirl27]

No, you NEED to get laid so it doesn't constitute 150% of your gender related thoughts!

 

My advice to you in one of your first threads was not to erode on your morals but man, you are so ready for it, it's become an obsession.

 

Losing your hymen is no big deal. Really.

 

Not interested. Really.

[ALonerAgain]

No, I NEED to get married first.

 

No, you NEED a therapist.

[DreamerGirl27]

No, you NEED a therapist.

 

Keep your sorry opinions, that you have NO right to force onto other people on these boards to yourself! You're not trying to help, you're trying to be mean.

[ALonerAgain]

Keep your sorry opinions, that you have NO right to force onto other people on these boards to yourself! You're not trying to help, you're trying to be mean.

 

DreamerGirl,

 

I'm sorry you feel this way.

 

[sigh]Dreamergirl, you want to know the reason why I'm being down on you? It's because I actually see some of your traits in myself.

 

And a lot of posters here can certainly understand the feeling and frustration of wanting someone that you can't have (in the way that you want), due to either blatant incompatibility or because they don't feel the same way you do.

 

It's just frustrating because most of the people here actually want to help you, including myself, funnily enough. But you're acting like a spoiled toddler who insists on staying in her pram with her toys while everyone else encourages you to go and explore your environment. That's how you learn.

 

I'm not saying that you have to give up your morals of "no sex before a committed relationship". That's a trait to be admired. What is crazy is not only to expect someone to give up their own views for you - but to keep hanging around and whining until they do!

 

I don't expect you to believe me, but it's true.

 

Again, I apologise if you've been feeling victimised by me. I guess you and I share the same passionate, stubborn nature and we both want others desperately to understand where we're coming from. Ok, lesson learned.

 

I'll leave you alone now to continue wallowing in your narrow-minded ways...

[DreamerGirl27]

DreamerGirl,

 

I'm sorry you feel this way.

 

 

 

I don't expect you to believe me, but it's true.

 

Again, I apologise if you've been feeling victimised by me. I guess you and I share the same passionate, stubborn nature and we both want others desperately to understand where we're coming from. Ok, lesson learned.

 

I'll leave you alone now to continue wallowing in your narrow-minded ways...

 

Thank you, I'd appreciate it.

[SpiralOut]

I used to get along better with women than with men.

 

Something changed and now I get along better with men than with women. I think it's a trust thing. So long as I'm not sleeping with my guyfriends, they have no real reason to gossip about me. I don't need to worry about them acting catty and competitive with me, trying to one-up me or flirt with my boyfriend or expose my secrets.

 

Can you tell that I've had some bad experiences with women friends?

 

Actually I wish I had more women friends now that I am realizing that there are certain things that male friends just don't understand, or want to do. There is also the awkward sexual tension of one of them developing a crush on me or vice-versa. I'm tired of it.

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[DreamerGirl27]

I used to get along better with women than with men.

 

Something changed and now I get along better with men than with women. I think it's a trust thing. So long as I'm not sleeping with my guyfriends, they have no real reason to gossip about me. I don't need to worry about them acting catty and competitive with me, trying to one-up me or flirt with my boyfriend or expose my secrets.

 

Can you tell that I've had some bad experiences with women friends?

 

Actually I wish I had more women friends now that I am realizing that there are certain things that male friends just don't understand, or want to do. There is also the awkward sexual tension of one of them developing a crush on me or vice-versa. I'm tired of it.

 

I have never had that experience with any woman I am friends with.

 

Also wanted to comment on what I put in bold and just say. Exactly.

[djhall]

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[Star Gazer]

I simply found the 'extremism' mindset that you and D'lish espoused to be devoid of logic and slightly hypocritical, so I wished to challenge it. I was also banking on a decent rational discussion with you. Sufficient answer?

 

Well, it wasn't just TBF and D that said it. I did too.

 

And about your "pee" analogy, there's a large world of difference between the genders besides how the position their bodies to pee. (And many men sit to do it!)

[Els]

Well, it wasn't just TBF and D that said it. I did too.

 

And about your "pee" analogy, there's a large world of difference between the genders besides how the position their bodies to pee. (And many men sit to do it!)

 

Sorry if I missed your post.

 

Indeed, thanks for proving my point to the OP, who claims 'you both sit to pee, how do you get any more similar than that?!' as a good reason to be friends with someone.

[Ross MwcFan]

Not interested. Really.

 

What if you get married to some dude, only to find out you're not sexually compatible/the sex with him sucks?

[Mcnulty]

Just wanted to throw this experience in....I met a girl, she was intelligent and fun...not my type physically and I've never had an attraction in that way for her. 3 months down the line, she says she has to stop talking to me, cos she is sexually attracted to me. I was gutted and hurt, but a month of NC, she gets in touch and says, "I miss our friendship". A year later...now, we're the best of friends, she's like a sister to me...we both have partners and I would always want her in my life....we're happy to be friends.....

[Eddie Edirol]

What if you get married to some dude, only to find out you're not sexually compatible/the sex with him sucks?

 

Damn good question Ross, would love to see an answer to that. But I predict that since she doesnt know what sex is like, she couldnt speak from experience.