Sphere Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 I'm 5ft 8 inches and I weigh 127 lbs, now for many women that's skinny, but I have bulked up from going to the gym to the point where people are shocked when I tell them I only weigh 127 lbs. You just need to stuff your face with cakes, crisps, orange sherbert and beer and then head down to the gym and start pumping as much iron as you can or alternatively you could be comfortable with your body and go from there. The second one might actually serve you better, unless you actually want to go to the gym?
JamesM Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 At your age I was about 140# and six foot. At your age I also first joined the gym. I lifted weights because I felt like I was stronger. And lo and behold, I did gain some weight, but more importantly, I showed every muscle and vein. When I met my wife four years later, I was about 150# and muscular looking. To this day...that is what she remembers. Yes, she says I was "too skinny" but she also remembers that I looked good because I looked fit. Was I some babe magnet? Nope. Did I let my skinniness get me down? A little. But honestly, when I began lifting weights, I gained more confidence than I gained weight or muscle, and that alone was enough to give me the extra boost needed to meet women. Now...the good or bad news depending on how you look at it. At around 30, I put on weight. Suddenly, my metabolism slowed down and I was not lifting weights for a couple of years. At around 30, I realized that my weight had gone up close to 190#. Yep. That skinny me was long gone. SO I joined the gym again and lost 30#. But to this day, I have to watch my weight. I have gone up and down a number of times. Now I am around 175 to 180 and I look like the average size guy. And yes, I still lift weights just not as vigorously as I did at your age. Age and maturity will increase the weight and you will look back and wish you could have some of that skinniness back. And here is the important part....letting women (or anyone else) decide your confidence level based on how you look will diminish your confidence so that they notice how you look. If you can simply realize what you have as a person and what you can offer, then your body size will become second to your personality. I know how you feel and what I told you is what I would have told myself at your age. Thankfully, I did have some people tell me that, and lifting weights was one of the best things I could have done for myself at that age. My point is not to say that I was some young stud, but simply....exercise and especially lifting weights is (are) one of the best things you can do to build your confidence about your body and yourself.
Eeyore79 Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 You sound a little skinny for my preferences, but I may not be typical - I actually prefer a guy to be overweight because I like him to have a lot of meat on his bones. If you could bulk up a little and work out, it would probably attract more girls.
kiss_andmakeup Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 I'm a skinny gal but I still tend to be attracted to guys with a little meat on their bones. I tend to not be attracted to skinny guys, but I'm sure there could be exceptions. Lots of girls are attracted to lots of different things! No one's opinion is the be-all end-all. I will say though, I dunno about the theory posed by several guys who say "thin women like thin men,"...I notice a rather abundant amount of super-skinny-guy with morbidly-obese-woman couples.
Arbitrariness Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 According to the BMI (Body Mass Index) you are slightly underweight. A good idea is to invest time into a sport that allows you to use your figure to your advantage. Rockclimbing is a sport where minimal body mass, and reach can be helpful. Even better, boxing would be great for you (imagine the reach you'd have on little guys!). Also note that weight doesn't always correspond to athleticism and muscularity, ie you can minimal body fat and more muscle, or you can have minimal muscle and more fat.
lilbunny Posted September 24, 2010 Posted September 24, 2010 I must confess that if I had to pick my ideal type I would say tall and lean (on paper, often end up with men who are carrying a little extra round the middle in reality). You sound like you are on the thin side, but taking into account the fact that you are very young there is every chance you will fill out in the next few years anyway. If you are eating well and are active then I wouldn't worry too much. If you do want to build some muscle I'm probably not best equipped to advise you on the best way to go about that.
USMCHokie Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Yeah. It's not like I'd be looking to get really buff or anything... just gain ~10-15 lbs and tone up. I wouldn't want to go all out or anything, just a few times a week. How long would that take? 6 months? 12 months? 10-15 pounds of lean muscle going just a few times a week...? Probably a couple years, if not longer... Seriously, going hard for an entire year will not make you "buff". You already have a hard time gaining weight as it is, so unless you eat 4000 calories a day (which I hear can just become a painful experience), you're not going to turn into Arnold by any stretch of the imagination. And you're never going to get "toned up" unless you train more than just casually.
Pfiend101 Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Better then being fat bro. Thats the reality. Nothing wrong with being skinny at all.
Author Confused100 Posted September 25, 2010 Author Posted September 25, 2010 How much can you stand/afford to eat? As an "ectomorph" you would have to eat an obscene amount of calories to gain pure muscle mass -- somewhere in the area of 2800 to 3200 calories per day including 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight. If you are going to do that with "clean" food, you will need to eat 6-7 times per day, with protein in every meal: eggs, chicken, tuna, steak, more eggs, protein powder, etc, etc, etc. Such is not cheap. Of course, once you obtain the mass you want, you can cut back on your eating somewhat, but if you dont keep your routine up, you will lose the muscle mass you worked so hard to gain. I could eat all day Alas, I'm on a budget, and can't afford to spend that much money on food. I'm 5ft 8 inches and I weigh 127 lbs, now for many women that's skinny, but I have bulked up from going to the gym to the point where people are shocked when I tell them I only weigh 127 lbs. You just need to stuff your face with cakes, crisps, orange sherbert and beer and then head down to the gym and start pumping as much iron as you can or alternatively you could be comfortable with your body and go from there. The second one might actually serve you better, unless you actually want to go to the gym? To be perfectly honest, the gym has never been something I've been real interested in. However, if it can provide me with some more confidence, then I think I could push myself to go. I'd probably be more willing to if I can find a friend to work out with. Age and maturity will increase the weight and you will look back and wish you could have some of that skinniness back. And here is the important part....letting women (or anyone else) decide your confidence level based on how you look will diminish your confidence so that they notice how you look. If you can simply realize what you have as a person and what you can offer, then your body size will become second to your personality. I know how you feel and what I told you is what I would have told myself at your age. Thankfully, I did have some people tell me that, and lifting weights was one of the best things I could have done for myself at that age. My point is not to say that I was some young stud, but simply....exercise and especially lifting weights is (are) one of the best things you can do to build your confidence about your body and yourself. Thanks for the story. That makes a lot of sense. To be honest, all these responses have actually helped my confidence some. According to the BMI (Body Mass Index) you are slightly underweight. A good idea is to invest time into a sport that allows you to use your figure to your advantage. Rockclimbing is a sport where minimal body mass, and reach can be helpful. Even better, boxing would be great for you (imagine the reach you'd have on little guys!). Also note that weight doesn't always correspond to athleticism and muscularity, ie you can minimal body fat and more muscle, or you can have minimal muscle and more fat. I do enjoy playing basketball with friends (I'm actually quite athletic--I do really well in all the sports I pick up). 10-15 pounds of lean muscle going just a few times a week...? Probably a couple years, if not longer... Seriously, going hard for an entire year will not make you "buff". You already have a hard time gaining weight as it is, so unless you eat 4000 calories a day (which I hear can just become a painful experience), you're not going to turn into Arnold by any stretch of the imagination. And you're never going to get "toned up" unless you train more than just casually. Hmm, alright. I don't want to get 'buff', so that's not a problem. However, I didn't realise it'd take that much effort to build some muscle mass.
waynebrady Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 I'm 5'7 and 115 pounds lol and I actually love it to be this small if a woman finds it a turnoff then so be it, i don't think it really matters aslong as your confident... i think women would find it a turnoff if a man was insecure about his size though.
Sphere Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 I'm 5'7 and 115 pounds lol and I actually love it to be this small if a woman finds it a turnoff then so be it, i don't think it really matters aslong as your confident... i think women would find it a turnoff if a man was insecure about his size though. Do you have brown hair and blue eyes by any chance?
Sphere Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 To be perfectly honest, the gym has never been something I've been real interested in. However, if it can provide me with some more confidence, then I think I could push myself to go. I'd probably be more willing to if I can find a friend to work out with. In order to get value for money at the gym, you have to want to go in the first place. A gym buddy does help, but really you have to want to go in order to get the most from it. Why not buy some weights and do some weight training at home?
USMCHokie Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 I'm 5'7 and 115 pounds lol and I actually love it to be this small if a woman finds it a turnoff then so be it, i don't think it really matters aslong as your confident... i think women would find it a turnoff if a man was insecure about his size though. Yikes...that is small... Why not buy some weights and do some weight training at home? I'm not a huge advocate of home gyms...in order to properly outfit your home with the sufficient quality equipment, you'd have to put down a serious amount of money...but more importantly, it's easy to become lazy and just stop working out altogether because you'll have so many distractions at home...when you're paying each month for the gym and actually have to leave the house to work out, it will help keep you on track...
Sphere Posted September 25, 2010 Posted September 25, 2010 Very true, it was just a suggestion to the OP.
ascendotum Posted September 26, 2010 Posted September 26, 2010 I'm 5'7 and 115 pounds lol and I actually love it to be this small if a woman finds it a turnoff then so be it, i don't think it really matters aslong as your confident... i think women would find it a turnoff if a man was insecure about his size though. Wow, where do you live waynebrady....SE Asia!! I do agree with the 2nd point here to the extent that you will be better off to avoid the double negative of insecurity + being skinny. Its something I have struggled with, as bad experiences erode self confidence, but it does make a difference. I would not have thought you to be older than 20. By then your gut instincts should have told you being skinny is a pretty big negative when it comes to your love life. It’s the equivalent for a female of being a fatty, but with much less opportunities to get with a partner at your end of the gene pool. I have an ectomorph body shape and have lost and put on weight a bunch of times over the years due to health reasons. I can assure you life will be better if you put on weight. I know a former skinny guy who will quantify it terms of 110 times better, given that that is the ratio of the women he claims he had sex with muscular vs skinny. While I am not in the same league as this guy having spent more time underweight that buff, more than 3/4 of the women I have slept with have been when I bulked up. While having just one quality woman is all you might want, the fact remains that the number of women who want to have sex with you is a pretty good measure of your desirability. Having sex is an overt expression of women's interest in you, but it goes beyond this. It translates to much less opportunities, lower quality women as prospects, women being more prudish, and being a whole less friendlier/approachable. I have gone from having the luxury of being able to choose from 2 cute women to go home with while out at a particular club (bulked up) to losing weight and going back to the same place later in the year to find just getting to 15 minutes in a conversation with even just ordinary girls, to be f***king hard work. The contrast would do my head in. I have had a girlfriend not too dissimilar in looks to Kate Hudson and a charted accountant (when bulked) to my last girlfriend who was a skanky, boozy, low class ladette, factory working chaotic single mother (when thin). Why the last woman, because I dug my heels in when it came to wanting a slim build, raunchy woman. Being a skinny guy would not be so bad if it was just overweight women who rejected you, but the women who have the biggest issue with it are the thin, slim, petite women, the last being the least friendly. Having lost and gained weight a number of times, I also noticed the contrast in the personality of women who had university level education. I definitely had lower prospects here when thin. They are not by default nasty, just typically aloof. I also found the tolerance for skinny guys (and validated by a couple of other thin guys I know) is lower in women in their 30s than it was in their 20s. You may put on weight in your 30s as most people do, but what would you rather your heyday be, with women in their 20s or in their mid 30s & 40s. Its funny someone else here mentioned rock/cliff climbing. I did this sport, and loved it and was good because of my power to weight ratio. You should check out an indoor rock climbing centre. Using the extreme sport of rock climbing as an example, when I bulked up, and would mention this to women, I would get a 'wow thats cooool' response which would lead into a good lengthy conversation, but when I was thin, the typical response was 'oh yeah ..........................................'. '............................................................................'. Zero cachet! As regards Chokie’s advice...Don’t guess about it...do it, I can guarantee you will not regret it. Building a quality physique will take a number of years though if you are a hard gainer. As for the advice of qualifying women's rejections of your weight by saying you are better off without them, this will only work for so long, especially when you have to really lower your standards. Look, you are 6ft (big plus) and for all I know you could be a handsome and or talented guy; things may not be so grim for you.
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