mr.dream merchant Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 You ever have a girl that actually gets upset with you when you bring up STD testing? Like, rofl, are you serious hoe? I remember actually telling a chick to "take a ****ing hike" after she got upset with me. She probably had something, ****ing scunt.
D-Lish Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Condoms aren't 100% and when it comes to HPV and herpes, condoms mean sh*t. A Standard STD test won't cover HPV or Herpes. They'll cover Syphilis, Clamydia, Gonnoreah (sp). You need to ask for a full work up- which includes bloodwork.
Author Mad Max Posted August 18, 2010 Author Posted August 18, 2010 You ever have a girl that actually gets upset with you when you bring up STD testing? Like, rofl, are you serious hoe? I remember actually telling a chick to "take a ****ing hike" after she got upset with me. She probably had something, ****ing scunt. Never happened to me. If it did, I would have told her the same thing.
InceptorsRule Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 I'm not gay. I don't have sex with guys. Your loss.
InceptorsRule Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 You ever have a girl that actually gets upset with you when you bring up STD testing? Like, rofl, are you serious hoe? I remember actually telling a chick to "take a ****ing hike" after she got upset with me. She probably had something, ****ing scunt. "Scunt"? Isn't that some kind of missile they use in Iraq?
zengirl Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 (edited) I can't speak for everyone, but I'm a firm believer in STD testing before having sex with anyone. These days, in my opinion, it is irresponsible not getting tested, knowing how common STDs are. I have refused to hook up with girls because of this. Does anyone else do the same? I feel like I'm the only one. It depends on what you mean, I guess. If a fellow demanded he escort me down somewhere and see some documentation . . . it might come across as a bit odd. I probably would not sleep with this guy even though I fully believe in regular STD testing, clear communication about it, am not promiscuous, and am always safe and healthy. It just seems like it has more to do with trust issues than safety. That said, I don't jump into bed with fellows, so we know each other pretty well before we have sex. I'm always safe and prefer 2 kinds of BC at first (pills and condoms) for a bit until the relationship gets going. And I do ask my partners when they've been tested, if it's been since their last sexual encounter, etc. I think it's important to be smart, but if someone doesn't trust me enough to tell the truth about this, we probably shouldn't be sleeping together. And the same would be true if I didn't trust him to speak about it honestly. These kinds of things never happened though, so I'm not sure how it'd actually play out completely. Edited August 18, 2010 by zengirl
carhill Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 A Standard STD test won't cover HPV or Herpes. They'll cover Syphilis, Clamydia, Gonnoreah (sp). You need to ask for a full work up- which includes bloodwork. Thanks D. I recall giving both blood and urine samples. At the time the HIV test alone was over 100 bucks. I didn't tell potential partners I was clean. I told them I had been tested and asked if they wanted to see the labs. A couple did. I showed them. Remember, at that time, the HIV 'scare' was in full swing, so it didn't seem out of the ordinary to be 'safe' like that. Today perhaps is different. In any event, regardless of the parameters, IMO it's healthy to be able to talk about sex with someone one is having or going to have sex with.
Author Mad Max Posted August 18, 2010 Author Posted August 18, 2010 Your loss. It's my loss I don't have gay sex?
InceptorsRule Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 It's my loss I don't have gay sex? Oooh honey, you gotta say the same thing, but without the Question Mark at the end! SNAP SNAP
Pleco Posted August 19, 2010 Posted August 19, 2010 Is there even an appreciable difference (from the point of view of the potential recipient) between HSV-1 located on the mouth or gentials? Especially considering most people who have genital sex also have oral sex? I'm not disagreeing, just curious if I have my facts straight. I thought if you have it genitally or orally, it will come up in the blood case (but you may not know with certainty where you have it). Barring of course the true negatives and false positives. But if you're just saying there are a lot of people who have HSV-1 latent in their pants, and don't even know it, then I agree. No, there really isn't a difference between herpes located on the mouth and herpes located on the genitals. But there CERTAINLY is a difference in how one is stigmatized and the other is not, even though you can get genital herpes from a partner that only has it orally. It makes NO sense. People run away from partners who have genital herpes, but have no problem accepting people who have oral herpes...even though the people with oral herpes can give them the exact same disease that people with genital herpes can! My original point was this: there are mainly two diseases that you can't protect yourself from by using condoms (HPV and HSV). And the scary thing is that you also cannot protect yourself from these diseases by asking your partner to get an STD test, because they are untestable (at least, genital HSV1 is untestable, and HPV is untestable in men.) Let me give an example. Say person A, a female, is dating person B. She asks him to go get a full STD panel that includes a blood test for Herpes type 1 and 2. He goes diligently, and his tests come back positive for HSV type 1. They write this off as oral herpes, because almost everyone has it anyway so of course it would show up in a blood test (since the test can't tell you WHERE you have it - in other words, it can't tell you that you have genital herpes, only that you have herpes somewhere). So they proceed with their sexual relationship. As it turns out, this man has genital herpes AND HPV, and the woman ends up catching both diseases. The HPV he gave her may have given her pre-cervical cancer. And this situation is not terribly unlikely. It happened to me.
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