CLC2008 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Here. I'll post a pic for you, in honor of the clown thread. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2435372844_4e348f798e.jpg See, even clowns are hot.
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 One observation based on this post - for starters, focus less on statistics and stereotypes. Everybody is unique and different. I'm a statistics whore. Statistics give you better insight of reality than emotional "feelings" of how things "should" be. Plus any personal experience suffers the problems of small sample size. For example, saying some like "all my friends are 35+ and are not married, the average age for marriage is much later these days" When the reality is all of your friends are far outside the average.
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 My own personal golden rule in life which I try to (but don't always) stick to, never complain because somebody in ear shot has it far worse than you do. When have you EVER followed your own personal golden rule here on LS? Given your personal golden rule, LS should be shut down. "No complaining!"
Rorschach Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Who are you to decide what's good advice versus what's not? He's complaining about the position he's in, AND TAKING STEPS to change it. Just like you are, right? You can work out and diet to become un-obese. He can't do the same to change his hairline and chin. I'd agree if I thought his looks were honestly the problem, but I don't. If he acts in real life like he acts on LS it doesn't take a huge jump of the imagination to figure out what his problem is. I honestly don't believe any one or two physical attributes are going to completely ruin your chances. Even with all my weight still on I probably could have met somebody if I was willing to work at it. I don't think getting a hair/chin fix is going to solve anything, it's just going to end up with 12,000 dollars of debt and the same negative attitude which is the real root of the problem. Let's face it balding/weak chin isn't exactly a hare lip or a large facial cyst.
Rorschach Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 When have you EVER followed your own personal golden rule here on LS? Given your personal golden rule, LS should be shut down. "No complaining!" I very rarely complain on LS.
Mimolicious Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 OpenGL, honey.... Do whatever you think is going to make you happy. In reality, you wont know until you are there. 5'7 is not short, 140lbs is not fat, and 28 is not old. But one day you will be 75, 170lbs and 5'3 (shrinking an inch a decade from your spine disks compressing over time) Just try not to forget to live life, enjoy it and see the brighter sides of things. BTW, some of those females that you refer to so often maybe care more about your pecker size than your height, chin, and hair.
Lakeside_runner Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I'm a statistics whore. Statistics give you better insight of reality than emotional "feelings" of how things "should" be. Plus any personal experience suffers the problems of small sample size. For example, saying some like "all my friends are 35+ and are not married, the average age for marriage is much later these days" When the reality is all of your friends are far outside the average. Sure. However saying that at the age of 28, if you haven't found a girl that you'd like to be with and vice versa then one you turn 32 it's hopeless is by far exaggerated. Can I ask you what you do for a living? I assume you have a college degree, right? What are your hobbies? What do you do for fun?
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Let's face it balding/weak chin isn't exactly a hare lip or a large facial cyst. So? His "issue" is important to him. Who are you to tell him it's not? It might not be the end of the world, but if he can fix it, and it would make him feel better about himself and have more confidence, why not? I can't wait for your retroactive opinion on my breast implants, which I got to improve my already perfect fine breasts. They were pricey too - had a Beverly Hills surgeon. Go 'head. Give it to me. Make me laugh.
Rorschach Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 So? His "issue" is important to him. Who are you to tell him it's not? It might not be the end of the world, but if he can fix it, and it would make him feel better about himself and have more confidence, why not? I can't wait for your retroactive opinion on my breast implants, which I got to improve my already perfect fine breasts. They were pricey too - had a Beverly Hills surgeon. Go 'head. Give it to me. Make me laugh. This is going to be one of those conversations where no matter what I say all of a sudden I'm just some evil jerk out to destroy people's happiness. I think it was probably worth it getting those breast implants, clearly whatever money you spent was well worth it because now years later you can use your breasts as ammo against somebody on the internet. I applaud you, you've won. Way to go. I'm just going to take my opinions pack them up in a sad little hobo sake and mosey on down the trail
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 OpenGL, honey.... Do whatever you think is going to make you happy. In reality, you wont know until you are there. 5'7 is not short, 140lbs is not fat, and 28 is not old. But one day you will be 75, 170lbs and 5'3 (shrinking an inch a decade from your spine disks compressing over time) Just try not to forget to live life, enjoy it and see the brighter sides of things. BTW, some of those females that you refer to so often maybe care more about your pecker size than your height, chin, and hair. I'm not sure if this is going to make me happy or help my self confidence but I have to try something. Sitting in the corner twiddling my thumbs isn't going to help. The problem with this "girls care more about your personality" or "girls care more about your pecker size (lol)" is that they FIRST have you look past your looks. Do you realize how many women don't even bother to get to know someone because they don't find someone attractive? Do you realize that if you approach a woman for small talk, most of the time the difference between being a creep and being a friendly is how attractive you are?
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 Can I ask you what you do for a living? I assume you have a college degree, right? What are your hobbies? What do you do for fun? Civil Engineer. I won't go into detail but I have very "guy" hobbies. Sports/Cars/things of that nature.
somedude81 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Been working out for about 3-4 years on and off, it takes a very long time to get that strong. I'm generally outside the field of vision for women. Ah, I see. I've only been around 70% serious for about a year. It sucks how strength is lost if a break is taken. I'm very surprised that you are that strong at such a low weight. Why do you choose to be ripped instead of look big? For me I really don't give a damn about how strong I am, I just want to look strong. I wonder if people can't tell how muscular you are when you are wearing clothes. This is the last resort, if you have been following my time on LS you would know I have had this problem for years. I've only been actively posting her for a month so I don't know your history. PUA crap is the biggest waste of money ever and is a general insult to the intelligence of women (and you know I'm no supporter of women). I'm sure you've heard things about it, but have you really looked into it? Most of the big time PUA's actually started as social nerds and figured out how to work the system to their advantage. It's just my suggestion.
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 This is going to be one of those conversations where no matter what I say all of a sudden I'm just some evil jerk out to destroy people's happiness. No substantive response, then? I see. Oh, and interesting opinion of yourself. I think it was probably worth it getting those breast implants, clearly whatever money you spent was well worth it because now years later you can use your breasts as ammo against somebody on the internet. I applaud you, you've won. Way to go. I'm just going to take my opinions pack them up in a sad little hobo sake and mosey on down the trail How exactly am I using my breasts as ammo? Am I hitting you upside the head with them without my knowledge? Enlighten me. But seriously, you attacked GL for wanting to spend money to surgically improve his apperance. I did the same thing he did (albeit different surgeries, no receding hairline here ), yet you're unwilling to take the same pot shots at me. Why is that? Because you're only willing to pick on someone who's self-esteem is in the gutter? No, no... I applaud YOU.
Mimolicious Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Do you realize how many women don't even bother to get to know someone because they don't find someone attractive? Probably you are sitting on that same corner twiddling your thumbs thinking of how unattractive you are and how she wont approach you? Laws of attraction baby! Do you realize that if you approach a woman for small talk, most of the time the difference between being a creep and being a friendly is how attractive you are? Uuummm.... how can I put this delicately? This is far from the truth. I think you need a change of environment. Maybe you are in the mist of "Hollywood" where everyone according to "society" should look like Ken and Barbie. Move to NYC. Where we have tons of good looking creepy mofos and lots of wonderful hideous dudes.
Jilly Bean Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 How exactly am I using my breasts as ammo? But seriously, you attacked GL for wanting to spend money to surgically improve his apperance. I did the same thing he did (albeit different surgeries, no receding hairline here ), yet you're unwilling to take the same pot shots at me. Why is that? Because you're only willing to pick on someone who's self-esteem is in the gutter? No, no... I applaud YOU. I call BS, Star. Those that have been around long enough, know full well you payed extra to have those puppies shoot bullets. Don't lie. I remember your thread on needing to get a license to carry permit. I think Rorshach is jealous of many people, and many things. But, the attack on GL was cruel, and unwarranted. And it's funny, because I remember how he wept like a little school girl (and struck out like one) on his thread where he revealed pics of his body, and Alpha made a crack about wishing he were forewarned. Funny... This is like that broad last week with the thread about how everyone at the pool in Vegas was in bad physical shape, yet in all of her photos, she was muffin-topping (at the top!) and wearing a dress three sizes too small. Ech.
make me believe Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Gah, I'm getting flashbacks to my ex-boyfriend's old roommate. He was about 28/29 and couldn't get a girlfriend because he was horribly misogynistic, constantly berating himself (while at the same time trying to convey this tough guy attitude), and just miserable to be around. But he was convinced the problem was his chin/jawline and women's unrealistic standards for men. So he went & got some kind of jaw surgery, totally changed the general look of his face. And he STILL couldn't get a GF because he STILL had that horrible attitude!! It had nothing to do with his face but he refused to listen to anyone who told him that. On the other hand, a friend of my ex's was pretty unattractive with majorly thinning hair, about 5'5" and kinda stumpy, pinched up looking face.. but he was incredibly sweet & funny, and was almost never without a serious GF. Now he wasn't dating models or anything, but he didn't have much trouble getting into a relationship. The problem here is NOT what you look like (I bet you are completely average, maybe even above average since you work out regularly). It is your woe is me, misogynistic attitude. Believe me, that kind of thing sticks out like a sore thumb to women! I know you said you tried 3 therapists and they didn't work, but I say go try 3 or 33 more... however many it takes to fix your emotional problems. Oh, and I also thought you must be like 5'3" with the way you go on about your height. 5'7" isn't tall for a guy, but I wouldn't call it short and it's definitely not the end of the world! I am 5'7" and can think of three guys off the top of my head that I dated that were my height or shorter. Most girls are under 5'7", so really the height thing is just a cop-out for you.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I recommend taking a small portion of that $12,000 and trying out a few more therapists before you take these major steps. There are a lot of bad therapists out there. I had to go through a handful to find one that was any good, and I have stuck with her since. I think you can tell on the first visit if they're a good fit.
Star Gazer Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I call BS, Star. Those that have been around long enough, know full well you payed extra to have those puppies shoot bullets. Don't lie. I remember your thread on needing to get a license to carry permit. :lmao: My boobs need a license to kill, alright! This is like that broad last week with the thread about how everyone at the pool in Vegas was in bad physical shape, yet in all of her photos, she was muffin-topping (at the top!) and wearing a dress three sizes too small. Ech. Yeah, cuppa's thread straight pissed me off.
MrNate Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 :lmao:My boobs need a license to kill, alright! Yeah, cuppa's thread straight pissed me off. This response is useless without pics.
USMCHokie Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 This response is useless without pics. Well played. It appears I'm a late entry into this latest OpenGL thread...but after thinking about it for a little while, I'd have to say that all any of us can really do is support whatever choices OpenGL makes...life is about making decisions...some are good and some are bad, but what matters is that you make those decisions and stand by them...we will relish in the benefits of our good decisions and learn from the mistakes of our bad decisions...but we can never know what decisions are good and bad until they've been made and the consequences revealed... If at this point, OP feels that he's exhausted all options and believes that plastic surgery is the correct choice to fix his problem, then so be it...none of us can be certain of the outcomes, OP included, as we are all merely speculating as to whether surgery will bring about a positive change... Just as Rorshach made a decision to improve his health through physical fitness and nutrition, OP is contemplating the decision to undergo physical enhancements to improve his appearance...in all honesty, the two are no different...just a means to a similar end... In the end, whether it's a good idea for OP is for him to find out and live with...
Green Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Just out of curiosity: 1. Why are the endings of your posts always capitalized? 2. Where is the part where you tell OpenGL to... kiss the girls?!?!?! I was screaming so I capitalized it... you know for effect.... I did tell him to Kiss........ The advice is GOLD....
Lakeside_runner Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 Civil Engineer. I won't go into detail but I have very "guy" hobbies. Sports/Cars/things of that nature. OK. You have a decent job. That's good. The thing is - I asked three questions: What do you do? What are your hobbies? And, probably the most important one: WHAT DO YOU DO FOR FUN? <- This one you have skipped and that's maybe the biggest problem. Do you have a thing that you're passionate about? A thing around which your whole life revolves? Hobbies - you said cars/sports. Do you mean you like to fix old cars in your spare time or do you just like to read about cars (huge difference). Sports - do you just watch or do you actually play something, have this one sport that you can do/play with other people? Again - huge difference. I'm just trying to understand here.
IronMaiden Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 You say, "and you know I AM NO SUPPORTER OF WOMEN", yet you want one...? Guess what, whether you are a man or a woman who says something like this about the opposite sex, the other sex feels this vibe oozing out of your pores, even if you try to hide it.... That is why you can't get any woman to be your girlfriend.
Lakeside_runner Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 You say, "and you know I AM NO SUPPORTER OF WOMEN", yet you want one...? I think I was 16 at the time I watched the "Scent of a woman" with Al Pacino. I still remember the line - "Women are the best thing on Earth... Maybe a far far second would be a Ferrari." . Think about it OpenGL.
VertexSquared Posted May 26, 2010 Posted May 26, 2010 I'm a statistics whore. Statistics give you better insight of reality than emotional "feelings" of how things "should" be. Plus any personal experience suffers the problems of small sample size. For example, saying some like "all my friends are 35+ and are not married, the average age for marriage is much later these days" When the reality is all of your friends are far outside the average. I don't buy this for a second. Any post I've ever made to you concerning anything regarding your faulty statistics and/or biases in your observations gets conveniently ignored.
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