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Here's an idea. If you have some amount saved up, quit your job, move to a new city, and start anew. The excitement of being in a new place may help you change your new outlook on life. Being out of your normal comfort zone may help you try something different, like being nice to ladies and not thinking everyone's out to get you.

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I am going to say this though I dont really know you. I would not do the receding hair line correction nor the chin and here is why. Though your hair or lack there of may turn off some women, insecurity is a bigger turn off to them. If you have confidence in yourself people pick this up.

 

Yes being a good looking guy its easier, no doubt but even they have issues.

 

I will give you an example of what I am trying to say. When I was studying to be a naval aviator the very first day at camp they cut all our hair off, literally. Down to baby fuzz. Our drill instructor kept it almost bald. When we were allowed to go on leave no woman every stood there pointing a finger at us laughing at us saying we were almost bald. Heck we were going to be naval aviators, the best there was.

 

What I am trying to say is that, self confidence comes from the inside, now how we looked. This applies no matter how you look.

 

Go look up this guy named Neil Straus. He is a famous pick up artist (PUA) who wrote The Game. He is TOTALLY bald. Not a receding hairline but totally bald. This guy has picked up hundreds of women. It has nothing to do with him having/not having hair.

 

Think about it long and hard before you do this. You are 28 years old. Dont do it. Work on who you are first.

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I think it is great! I support your idea and I am even excited for you. I think more men should be proactive in trying to improve their appearance. A lot of guys after a certain age pretty much accept what they look like, dress poorly and expect to be "loved" anyway. Sure everyone deserves love but we also deserve to be attracted to the person we fall in love with first.

 

I see some guys with a double chin who aren't even all that big and I wish so hard I could go up to them and just tell them "you should get your double chin lipo'ed, it would make a world of a difference to your face and to your overall sex appeal and it is a simple enough procedure. If I had a double chin I wouldn't think twice about getting it done. And if I were a guy and losing some hair, same thing.

 

All the best and I am sure it will give you a self esteem boost. Don't listen to those who tell you it won't. I've had friends who had work done and they feel great afterward.

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Plastic surgery is so pointless, I can't imagine ever doing it

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Spend the money on therapy. Women may well appreciate a handsome man, but we fall in love with their personalities. Some women also I'm afraid fall in love with their bank account or lifestyle.

 

Look, there are tons of fat, balding, middle-aged men (hell some are even married) out there that have no trouble getting women. Its not your looks. It is your hang up. LISTEN to what everyone is telling you. Have you had counseling regarding your low self-esteem?

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The worry icon is because I honestly do not want to spend this money but I feel like I have no choice by societies standards. Because of the damn media men are expected to look like you just walked off a hollywood set. Don't give me any crap about how women are also expected to look perfect because men do not like the rail thin models that the media tries to push on us. Men are way less susceptible to the media standards of beauty.

 

 

I simply think you're just F'ed up in the head... NO plastic surgery is going to fix that! Work from the inside out, then enhance your renewed soul.

YOU are letting this "Hollywood" image affect your life, not Hollywood. YOU are living by letting these so-called stardards dictate who YOU ARE.

 

I am pro plastic surgery. I had a breast reduction (for medical reasons) 5 years ago but I don't really think your problem is an aesthetic one. Your full head of hair is not going to overshadow your state of mind, buddy.

 

I really wish you well. ;)

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... May I add- MOVE OUT OF CALI!!!

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100% Serious

 

Something I have been thinking about doing for awhile and I just confirmed my appointment (consultation) with one of the top doctors in LA in a few weeks time.

 

I plan on getting my receding hairline filled in with a hair transplant and getting minor work done to my chin area (spot fat removal and chin straightening). This will probably cost me a bit over $10000, but I approved for $12000 financing at 0% (plus some fees) and I have a bit of extra cash saved up.

 

I'm already 28 years old, at this point I really need to do something if I even want a remote chance at getting married and starting a family someday. Don't say "you have plenty of time" because it takes years to get into a relationship, get married, at start up a family and the market drys up the older you get. At 28 years old the market is already pretty damn dry.

 

After I get these things done it's hard to say what other type of surgery I will need. My bodyfat is already pretty low so maybe just to clean up some more genetic flaws in my face.

 

Also, if I still do not have a girl by the age of 32 I'm going to empty my retirement account and fly to japan to get the height increase surgery.

 

I disagree with a lot of your posts, but I will say this. It's YOUR money, and if this is something you want to do for yourself, don't let anyone make you feel bad about it. I personally, have never had plastic surgery, not sure if I ever would (with all the horror stories of things that could go wrong) but I don't think what you listed is THAT extreme.

 

It's a personal choice, really, so do as you see fit with what will make you feel better about yourself as an individual.

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I disagree with a lot of your posts, but I will say this. It's YOUR money, and if this is something you want to do for yourself, don't let anyone make you feel bad about it. I personally, have never had plastic surgery, not sure if I ever would (with all the horror stories of things that could go wrong) but I don't think what you listed is THAT extreme.

 

It's a personal choice, really, so do as you see fit with what will make you feel better about yourself as an individual.

 

I agree.

 

Some of the comments being expressed in this thread telling him that he is "fcked in the head" are completely uncalled for. Sure he put himself out there to discuss his decision but I doubt he did it so that some could tell him he is "fcked in the head" :mad:

 

How rude!!

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I agree.

 

Some of the comments being expressed in this thread telling him that he is "fcked in the head" are completely uncalled for. Sure he put himself out there to discuss his decision but I doubt he did it so that some could tell him he is "fcked in the head" :mad:

 

How rude!!

 

Yeah. This particular thread, isn't really offensive, so not sure why that is.

 

Oh well. :o

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I think that whoever wants surgical enhancements should go ahead and get them, but to do in in apparent desperation to "get" a woman? I predict that this is going to prove to be an epic fail.

 

Maybe you'd be better off spending all that dough on some kind of mail order bride? My brother, who is a well known loser and over 50, managed to somehow purchase a gorgeous woman of 25 from another land and now they have a baby. I think it's insane, ridiculous, wrong ... but maybe both of them are getting important needs met and it will actually work.

 

Or, if you have enough extra time and cash for leg lengthening surgery, perhaps you'd consider working for a high profile and worthy charitable organization, maybe overseas. I bet this would increase your self confidence immeasurably and it's the kind of thing that many women find extremely attractive ... unlike the thought that a guy squandered 10's of thousands of dollars, months of his life and risked his health and mobility ... so he could be 2 - 3 inches taller to attract a woman! NOT a turn on, believe me.

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Twenty-ten, I posted that. Guilty as charged...

 

OpenGL and I have actually gone back and forth on this idea once before.

So I am sure he understands where I am coming from. As negative as he puts himself and always knocks himself down, amazes me as to how well he can handle constructive critism. He is stronger and better equiped than he actually think he is.

 

It's can't always be "Fits-all".

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OpenGL- You would really go through a procedure to grow few inches "taller"? :eek:

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Twenty-ten, I posted that. Guilty as charged...

 

OpenGL and I have actually gone back and forth on this idea once before.So I am sure he understands where I am coming from.

 

I can appreciate you might have rapport with him, but you gotta admit there are better ways of saying that.

 

 

As negative as he puts himself and always knocks himself down, amazes me as to how well he can handle constructive critism. He is stronger and better equiped than he actually think he is.

 

It's can't always be "Fits-all".

Uhm, so beat the guy to a pulp with insults until you hit his breaking point simply because he shows to have a high tolerance level?

C'mon we are above that aren't we?

 

I think the best lesson he can learn on his own, if the surgery is not the answer to his problems, and spending 12K of borrowed money goes down the tubes, is that he will find in his own way on his own journey a way to make sense of what life is giving him. OR he could just get the added confidence boost that he seeks to get what he feels he is missing out on. I really don't see how people can put him down for trying to make himself feel better.

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Thanks for all the comments/supports, both positive and negative.

 

To make it clear to everybody, I have tried therapy:

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=194409

 

I also have tried others that I didn't mentioned to that thread. Basically I wasted about $1000 going through 3 different therapist. Biggest waste of money I have ever spent in my life.

 

OpenGL- You would really go through a procedure to grow few inches "taller"? :eek:

 

Trust me, this is the LAST thing I want to know. It's very expensive and dangerous. But I'm giving myself 4 more years to make some type of progress or to pray society changes but at the age of 32 I will feel like I have absolutely no choice.

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OpenGL is your name based on the graphics rendering mode?

 

LOOK HAVE YOU READ MY ADVICE ON GETTING WOMEN????? IF YOU JUST DID WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO YOU WOULD HAVE GF VERRY SOON.... 1) ASK GIRLS OUT 2) BE FLIRTY AND TOUCHY 3) GO IN FOR THE KISS!!!! 4) BE YOURSELF

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So, you're 5'7'' and can bench press nearly twice your weight? How much do you weigh? I mean, this is pretty impressive but can it be that you have exaggerated with hitting the gym in the past and now you look like one of these box-shaped freaks that are wider than they're taller (happens at any hight, I've seen it).

 

As far as for receding hairline goes - why don't you try out triathlons? Hit the pool, spend the 12K on a tri-bike (geez if I had that kinda money to throw out there on something it'd be a Cervelo) and a wetsuit. Shave off your hair and go for the triathlete look. Last time I checked girls like triathletes, right? :)

 

Then sign up for a Ford Ironman and spend 9 months swimming/biking/running. Cross the finish line and brag for the rest of your life! Hell, tattoo the M-Dot on your calf together with a stylish 140.6. I don't think there are more things out there to boost your self-confidence better than crossing the finish-line of an IM.

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OpenGL is your name based on the graphics rendering mode?

 

LOOK HAVE YOU READ MY ADVICE ON GETTING WOMEN????? IF YOU JUST DID WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO YOU WOULD HAVE GF VERRY SOON.... 1) ASK GIRLS OUT 2) BE FLIRTY AND TOUCHY 3) GO IN FOR THE KISS!!!! 4) BE YOURSELF

 

Just out of curiosity:

 

1. Why are the endings of your posts always capitalized?

2. Where is the part where you tell OpenGL to... kiss the girls?!?!?! :confused::)

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Thanks for all the comments/supports, both positive and negative.

 

To make it clear to everybody, I have tried therapy:

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=194409

 

I also have tried others that I didn't mentioned to that thread. Basically I wasted about $1000 going through 3 different therapist. Biggest waste of money I have ever spent in my life.

 

 

 

Trust me, this is the LAST thing I want to know. It's very expensive and dangerous. But I'm giving myself 4 more years to make some type of progress or to pray society changes but at the age of 32 I will feel like I have absolutely no choice.

 

OGL, why don't you post a picture of yourself? Or maybe an avatar? That way at least we can be better judges.

 

And we're not really doctors, although some advices on her are slightly venomous we're also only trying to be truthful ( yet opinionated) about this subject. Again, if you really wish to have surgery, no on can put a gun to your head to stop you.

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OGL, why don't you post a picture of yourself? Or maybe an avatar? That way at least we can be better judges.

 

And we're not really doctors, although some advices on her are slightly venomous we're also only trying to be truthful ( yet opinionated) about this subject. Again, if you really wish to have surgery, no on can put a gun to your head to stop you.

 

OpenGL is concerned about staying anonymous. Can't blame him for that.

 

However - OpenGL - you could just put a black bar over your eyes, like on the mug pictures in TV.

 

Think about the Tri-stuff. X-Terra has a Memorial day blow-out on wetsuits. They're 50% off!

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OGL, why don't you post a picture of yourself? Or maybe an avatar? That way at least we can be better judges.

 

And we're not really doctors, although some advices on her are slightly venomous we're also only trying to be truthful ( yet opinionated) about this subject. Again, if you really wish to have surgery, no on can put a gun to your head to stop you.

 

IF the advice comes off as venomous it's only because OpenGL has been on these threads since I've been here (approaching 2 months, I don't know when it started) complaining about the same things he's complaining about now while ignoring all the advice he's ever gotten about how the problem is between his ears.

 

Months of having the same advice repeatedly ignored can make anybody a little venomous.

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I hate seeing you young fellas so lost at such a young age.

 

Open, if you want to undergo these procedures for yourself, fine, take your time and think long and hard before you make a move. But if you really want to do this in order to find a women, don't, because no women in the world is worth it.

 

Same for the girls, no man is worth it either

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So, you're 5'7'' and can bench press nearly twice your weight? How much do you weigh? I mean, this is pretty impressive but can it be that you have exaggerated with hitting the gym in the past and now you look like one of these box-shaped freaks that are wider than they're taller (happens at any hight, I've seen it).

 

I weigh 140lb and can bench press about 245lb. I do have wide shoulders (obviously) but I wouldn't go as far as to say I look like a box. I know what you're talking about though. And I'm not all gross roided out.

 

As far as for receding hairline goes - why don't you try out triathlons? Hit the pool, spend the 12K on a tri-bike (geez if I had that kinda money to throw out there on something it'd be a Cervelo) and a wetsuit. Shave off your hair and go for the triathlete look. Last time I checked girls like triathletes, right? :)

 

The reason why I want to try to save it is because I still have a lot of hair left and almost every woman says they prefer a guy with a lot of hair and hate bald guys. There was a there on here only a few days ago that confirmed that.

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My sister took her husband to some world renowned hair clinic as a surprise for his Birthday, he's recedeing a little in the front, but still has a full head of hair. Sometimes he shaves it.

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The biggest irony I see coming from most of the detractors is if I posted a thread called:



 

"I'm 38 years old and never been married and am lonely"

 

Everybody would come in and say it's my fault for not changing things while I am still young.

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