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The original poster claims that men are so hypersexualized by nature that they are driven by these animalistic lusts to seek out images of women engaged in extreme sexual situations. In contrast, he implies that women are hyperemotional by nature and that due to their nature, react irrationally to the manifestation of a man's natural instinct to view porn. For now, I'll leave out the question of whether or not these stereotypes of genders are true, and whether they are in fact natural. My question to the original poster and others who agree with him is why you regard it as good men to act in accordance with their supposed nature, but at the same time negative for a woman to act in accordance with her supposed nature? Why should and how can a woman conform to this particular manifestation of a man's supposed nature, when according to you, it's in a woman's nature to do the opposite?

 

 

If men and women's natures are perfectly rigid while at the same time being so different from each other, then it would be completely impossible for a man and a woman to have a truly intimate, long-lasting relationship, since they'd be destined to be in eternal, nonstop conflict. Clearly, the reason why there are people who do have the type of relationship I just mentioned is because the parties involved are truly interested in having that type of relationship and are therefore willing to compromise to achieve it. The reason why people are able to compromise and thus go against their purported natural instincts is either because humans have the ability to reason and therefore can choose whether to follow their lower, base instincts or not--or because these behaviors are not natural in the first place. I believe the expression of emotional and sexual behaviors and the inhibition of their expression is socially influenced. You should note that, btw, at a few centuries ago in Europe, it was women who were seen as the weak, oversexualized ones who couldn't control their lusts (along with their emotions). I also believe that any who uses his or her base instincts as an excuse for the way he or she acts (whether it's--and i'm resorting to an extreme example for illustration--for example, a rapist going around raping any woman he desires because he believes that, being a man, he "can't control" himself...and believe it or not, someone actually did write a book attempting to validate rape in this manner) is denying his/her humanity and in the process acting like and making himself/herself into an animal. If a creature is driven about by its instincts, and does not have the ability to reason and choose to go against these instincts, it follows to reason that this creature is not a human. I believe people who argue that a thing is natural and thus can't be helped are lazy and looking for a way out, whether it's a male, female, in between, or a slight mixture.

 

 

Ultimately, my view is this: if a man feels that possessing and viewing an essentially unnatural (the media is manmade, often along with the bodyparts, tans, and hair colors of the women portrayed in it) item is fundamental to his nature, he should find a woman who shares that interest or who is accepting of it. He should be clear and upfront to women before entering into a relationship with them about he important part pornography plays in his life. In this way, he is respecting the woman by allowing her to choose whether or not she accepts this behavior (as opposed to lying, tricking or manipulating her by pretending to be someone he's not), and respecting himself by not becoming involved with someone who won't accept what he feels is an essential and indivisible part of himself, and saving both of them from the possible years of ugly conflict down the road once she finds out his secret. A man who gets into a relationship with a woman knowing she is anti-porn, particularly if he lies and manipulates by hiding it, is asking for the conflict it will lead to in the relationship. A woman who is against porn yet gets into a relationship with a man knowing he watches porn and feels its essential to his livelihood is also asking for trouble.

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A lot of guys don't want the girls in the porn! She's a Whore.LOL! I wouldn't be caught dead having sex with her. I want something more than that. [/i]
This is exactly the type of attitude that causes many people interested in the rights and well-being of women to be against pornography. When many men view pornography, they are thinking degrading thoughts about the women involved. Your attitude is that it's fine to use a person to get your rocks off to, so to speak, but that she doesn't hold any value as a woman for the reason that she's slept around. Although I'm a virgin by choice until I get married in a few months, your attitude is one I disagree with because it's this same widespread belief that contributes to the devaluation and sexual exploitation of women in society, the confusion of young girls and women (i.e. the Madonna-Whore Complex), the resulting repression of women's sexuality (something you yourself complained about in this very thread), the deep dichotomy between men and women, and other negative factors. As some people in this thread posted earlier, the most common reason some women get involved in the porn industry is due to some form of childhood abuse such as sexual abuse, issues with their father, or other emotional issues. Usually when people have such severe emotional problems, they lose sight of what's best for them. Yet you call these women whores, thus implying that they are not worthy of respect and aren't deserving of a real relationship (people who are emotionally unstable aren't ready for a relationship, but that's a different thing).

 

What you're basically saying is that there is a set of women who deserve to be used for men's pleasure and then discarded, and a set of more virginal--or less whorish--women who deserve to be "rewarded" with a relationship with a man (although this latter set of women, the more virginal set, is required to accept the fact that, while being in a relationship with a member of the more virginal set, the man will routinely use and discard members of the other set of women). It seems to me that the average man (not all men, but too many men) contributes to the creation of the Madonna-Whore complex, gets confused about which he prefers, and then tries to have his cake and eat it too. Some cheat on their Madonna spouses and girlfriends with the Whore; some masturbate to the idea and images. Maybe if people would stop perpetuating certain negative attitudes and stereotypes, the Madonna-Whore Complex wouldn't exist and each woman could be free to be her own sexual self. But I digress.

 

In any case, the very fact that a person feels the need to justify their actions by degrading another person is usually an implication that on some level they feel some self-disgust and guilt about their actions, and is projecting that outwards onto the actresses in the pornography or other random "whores" that they may bang and subsequently discard. Is it possible in the current state of society for a man to view porn without simulateously devaluing the women involved?

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Explain to us why being sexually attracted to someone is degrading them.

 

This is exactly the type of attitude that causes many people interested in the rights and well-being of women to be against pornography. When many men view pornography, they are thinking degrading thoughts about the women involved. Your attitude is that it's fine to use a person to get your rocks off to, so to speak, but that she doesn't hold any value as a woman for the reason that she's slept around. Although I'm a virgin by choice until I get married in a few months, your attitude is one I disagree with because it's this same widespread belief that contributes to the devaluation and sexual exploitation of women in society, the confusion of young girls and women (i.e. the Madonna-Whore Complex), the resulting repression of women's sexuality (something you yourself complained about in this very thread), the deep dichotomy between men and women, and other negative factors. As some people in this thread posted earlier, the most common reason some women get involved in the porn industry is due to some form of childhood abuse such as sexual abuse, issues with their father, or other emotional issues. Usually when people have such severe emotional problems, they lose sight of what's best for them. Yet you call these women whores, thus implying that they are not worthy of respect and aren't deserving of a real relationship (people who are emotionally unstable aren't ready for a relationship, but that's a different thing).

 

What you're basically saying is that there is a set of women who deserve to be used for men's pleasure and then discarded, and a set of more virginal--or less whorish--women who deserve to be "rewarded" with a relationship with a man (although this latter set of women, the more virginal set, is required to accept the fact that, while being in a relationship with a member of the more virginal set, the man will routinely use and discard members of the other set of women). It seems to me that the average man (not all men, but too many men) contributes to the creation of the Madonna-Whore complex, gets confused about which he prefers, and then tries to have his cake and eat it too. Some cheat on their Madonna spouses and girlfriends with the Whore; some masturbate to the idea and images. Maybe if people would stop perpetuating certain negative attitudes and stereotypes, the Madonna-Whore Complex wouldn't exist and each woman could be free to be her own sexual self. But I digress.

 

In any case, the very fact that a person feels the need to justify their actions by degrading another person is usually an implication that on some level they feel some self-disgust and guilt about their actions, and is projecting that outwards onto the actresses in the pornography or other random "whores" that they may bang and subsequently discard. Is it possible in the current state of society for a man to view porn without simulateously devaluing the women involved?

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This is exactly the type of attitude that causes many people interested in the rights and well-being of women to be against pornography. When many men view pornography, they are thinking degrading thoughts about the women involved. Your attitude is that it's fine to use a person to get your rocks off to, so to speak, but that she doesn't hold any value as a woman for the reason that she's slept around. Although I'm a virgin by choice until I get married in a few months, your attitude is one I disagree with because it's this same widespread belief that contributes to the devaluation and sexual exploitation of women in society, the confusion of young girls and women (i.e. the Madonna-Whore Complex), the resulting repression of women's sexuality (something you yourself complained about in this very thread), the deep dichotomy between men and women, and other negative factors. As some people in this thread posted earlier, the most common reason some women get involved in the porn industry is due to some form of childhood abuse such as sexual abuse, issues with their father, or other emotional issues. Usually when people have such severe emotional problems, they lose sight of what's best for them. Yet you call these women whores, thus implying that they are not worthy of respect and aren't deserving of a real relationship (people who are emotionally unstable aren't ready for a relationship, but that's a different thing).

 

What you're basically saying is that there is a set of women who deserve to be used for men's pleasure and then discarded, and a set of more virginal--or less whorish--women who deserve to be "rewarded" with a relationship with a man (although this latter set of women, the more virginal set, is required to accept the fact that, while being in a relationship with a member of the more virginal set, the man will routinely use and discard members of the other set of women). It seems to me that the average man (not all men, but too many men) contributes to the creation of the Madonna-Whore complex, gets confused about which he prefers, and then tries to have his cake and eat it too. Some cheat on their Madonna spouses and girlfriends with the Whore; some masturbate to the idea and images. Maybe if people would stop perpetuating certain negative attitudes and stereotypes, the Madonna-Whore Complex wouldn't exist and each woman could be free to be her own sexual self. But I digress.

 

In any case, the very fact that a person feels the need to justify their actions by degrading another person is usually an implication that on some level they feel some self-disgust and guilt about their actions, and is projecting that outwards onto the actresses in the pornography or other random "whores" that they may bang and subsequently discard. Is it possible in the current state of society for a man to view porn without simulateously devaluing the women involved?

 

I'm just going to quote the last post but it's in reference to both.

 

 

I don’t believe he meant women who commit these acts are to be looked at as demeaning, but to give your female spouse some self-esteem and comfort to the issue by saying so. Sexual fantasy is something men desire the most out of a relationship. Men fantasize about sex twice as much as women. Just because we do such things, doesn’t make us animals. What a lot of women fail to understand (whose mates have pornography under control) is that it’s the intimacy of porn that interests us, not the woman herself. We don’t desire the rest that comes with it. It’s the sexual energy and chemistry that turns men on.

 

You have to be realistic about relationships. What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively? Want man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a person who leaves for work to have sex? We tolerate what they do, but they wouldn’t make good partners for a monogamist relationship.

 

For a man to be hypersexualized and a woman to be hyperemotional is the problem! It nullifies to the relationship. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

 

For a man to let sex and porn vigorously dominate his life is animal like and unhealthy to the relationship; For a women to let her negative emotions dramatically dictate her life and her male companions life is animal like and unhealthy to the relationship. Self-control is needed on both ends.

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You make a very good point, but Vixen does too.

 

This debate all boils down to a lack of understanding at a fundamental level. Most men will never understand the kind of complex porn gives some women, and women will never understand the role porn plays in a man's life. It doesn't help that both sides contradict themselves either.

 

Like Vixen pointed out, men want the best of both worlds. They want to fantasize about the dirty slut in the video but have their innocent girlfriend. Women want men to be honest, but the second they are, they a.) don't believe them b.) over-analyze what they say for a "true hidden meaning" and c.) resent them for the truth. It sucks, and talking and listening is the only way to solve it.

 

One more note: Ladies, do NOT use sex as a weapon. Talk it out, and be open to answers that you may not like... Guys, listen to her concerns without spouting the same tired answers. yes, we all read somewhere that men are visual and its in their nature to populate the species...but survival isn't a driving force for us anymore. Women's natural instinct is to seek out the best, strongest, and most fertile: and we've seemed to control that pretty well....

 

I'm just going to quote the last post but it's in reference to both.

 

 

I don’t believe he meant women who commit these acts are to be looked at as demeaning, but to give your female spouse some self-esteem and comfort to the issue by saying so. Sexual fantasy is something men desire the most out of a relationship. Men fantasize about sex twice as much as women. Just because we do such things, doesn’t make us animals. What a lot of women fail to understand (whose mates have pornography under control) is that it’s the intimacy of porn that interests us, not the woman herself. We don’t desire the rest that comes with it. It’s the sexual energy and chemistry that turns men on.

 

You have to be realistic about relationships. What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively? Want man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a person who leaves for work to have sex? We tolerate what they do, but they wouldn’t make good partners for a monogamist relationship.

 

For a man to be hypersexualized and a woman to be hyperemotional is the problem! It nullifies to the relationship. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

 

For a man to let sex and porn vigorously dominate his life is animal like and unhealthy to the relationship; For a women to let her negative emotions dramatically dictate her life and her male companions life is animal like and unhealthy to the relationship. Self-control is needed on both ends.

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i like porn and i would never be into people who made a big deal over it.

 

i dont watch it, every girl ive dated watched more porn than me. but ..the point is people who would want to control porn watching... thats usually a sign of a prudish and controlling girl. not that theres anything wrong with that if a guy can put up with it, but not for me.

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Porn is cheating. When you look at woman with lust you committed adultery in your heart. So how many time do you guys who watch porn committed adultery?

 

When you look at porn so often, won't you treat your wife or gf same way as you look at those porn stars? no feeling, just physical?

 

The more you watch porn, the more you want to, the more you act on a physical level. Nothing to with your spirituality. so your spirituality shrinkle:confused:

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What you're basically saying is that there is a set of women who deserve to be used for men's pleasure and then discarded, and a set of more virginal--or less whorish--women who deserve to be "rewarded" with a relationship with a man (although this latter set of women, the more virginal set, is required to accept the fact that, while being in a relationship with a member of the more virginal set, the man will routinely use and discard members of the other set of women). It seems to me that the average man (not all men, but too many men) contributes to the creation of the Madonna-Whore complex, gets confused about which he prefers, and then tries to have his cake and eat it too. Some cheat on their Madonna spouses and girlfriends with the Whore; some masturbate to the idea and images. Maybe if people would stop perpetuating certain negative attitudes and stereotypes, the Madonna-Whore Complex wouldn't exist and each woman could be free to be her own sexual self. But I digress.

 

 

thats discusting that some men feel that way! to protest this i will volunteer to have relationships with all the porn stars!

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Women's natural instinct is to seek out the best, strongest, and most fertile: and we've seemed to control that pretty well....

 

I don't know about that. I've seen some women with slothful, weak, insecure men.:laugh:

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Porn is cheating. When you look at woman with lust you committed adultery in your heart. So how many time do you guys who watch porn committed adultery?

 

When you look at porn so often, won't you treat your wife or gf same way as you look at those porn stars? no feeling, just physical?

 

Well that depends on the attention you're receiving from your GF/Wife. I know some women who only dressed up just to go out or when people visit; Never for their BF/husband. It's rife that women dress more explicit (showing cleavage) for the show of others than they do for their own BF/Husbands.

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I'm still trying to work this one out. If men are visual creatures, what does that make us women? Blind inanimate objects?

 

I love this quote! I think people often discount that women can be very visual too. I myself am, just as much as any man, I'd say.

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I love this quote! I think people often discount that women can be very visual too. I myself am, just as much as any man, I'd say.

 

True! Women are visual creatures too. If not, a lot of unattractive guys would've gotten layed by now.:lmao::laugh: I don't think anyone say women weren't...

 

Women are a bit different. First comes the visual attraction then personality. As soon as the guy says something stupid, it's over. A women can say something stupid twice over and I guy would still want her.:laugh:

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Maybe some women are insecure about their own bodies and feeling towards sex..that can be a huge issue..Myself however, thinks that watching it together is part of a healthy relationship..maybe the coulples should try going together to pick out materials they would both be interested in

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I think this is why I object to porn. It causes a bad attitude toward women.

 

Most porn that I have seen portray women as objects to be used and demoralized.

 

I have often wondered if this in itself get men hotter than the sexual content.

 

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I think this is why I object to porn. It causes a bad attitude toward women.

 

Most porn that I have seen portray women as objects to be used and demoralized.

 

I have often wondered if this in itself get men hotter than the sexual content.

 

I don’t believe he meant women who commit these acts are to be looked at as demeaning, but to give your female spouse some self-esteem and comfort to the issue by saying so. Sexual fantasy is something men desire the most out of a relationship. Men fantasize about sex twice as much as women. Just because we do such things, doesn’t make us animals. What a lot of women fail to understand (whose mates have pornography under control) is that it’s the intimacy of porn that interests us, not the woman herself. We don’t desire the rest that comes with it. It’s the sexual energy and chemistry that turns men on. Sometimes sex looks very interesting viewing from the outside. Similar to Professional Fighting. Guys enjoy viewing it from the outside but wouldn't be caught dead actually doing it.

 

You have to be realistic about relationships. What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively? Want man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a person who leaves for work to have sex? We tolerate what they do, but they wouldn’t make good partners for a monogamist relationship.

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Well if he's just saying that to make her feel good...is he lying about how he feels? If guys want to watch porn, then fine there's no stopping it but if guys want relationships...they need to be honest and a bit more willing to compromise. I'm not letting girls off the hook, but as a guy the reasons you say why porn is important but isn't at the same time can be quite confusing. That's like a woman saying size doesn't matter but wants you to **** her with a dildo twice the size of your penis. Women want to believe that it's not a big deal to you and that you love them but when you defend it like it was your first born it makes them kind of wonder.

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Well if he's just saying that to make her feel good...is he lying about how he feels? If guys want to watch porn, then fine there's no stopping it but if guys want relationships...they need to be honest and a bit more willing to compromise. I'm not letting girls off the hook, but as a guy the reasons you say why porn is important but isn't at the same time can be quite confusing. That's like a woman saying size doesn't matter but wants you to **** her with a dildo twice the size of your penis. Women want to believe that it's not a big deal to you and that you love them but when you defend it like it was your first born it makes them kind of wonder.

 

You misinterpret why something like that would be said. Most of it is the truth. Men are not trying to degrade those women but like I said, "You have to be realistic about relationships. What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively? Want man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a person who leaves for work to have sex? We tolerate what they do, but they wouldn’t make good partners for a monogamist relationship".

 

Hating porn so much shows signs of insecurity and control, unless it's viewed too much or for religious reasons.

 

It's ironic because a lot of guys watch people beat the crap out of each other (WWE, pro boxing, and UFC)which is considered morally wrong and barbaric but women say nothing about it. We all watch movies with explicit violence which is not right. Bottom line is, we all choose what to be sensitive to.

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Maybe some women are insecure about their own bodies and feeling towards sex..that can be a huge issue..Myself however, thinks that watching it together is part of a healthy relationship..maybe the coulples should try going together to pick out materials they would both be interested in

So in old times without porn, couples didn't have healthy relationship because of lack of porn?:confused::confused: Why cannot couple develop their own relationship without help of porn?

 

Or today's people just got brainwashed that accept what is wrong but what MOST people do?

Most people do isn't necessary it is right

Most people accept" doesn't mean God accept it. Ok, I knwo many people don't believe in God. What if there is a real God exist? and heaven and hell exist? there are many people died but returned to testify what heaven and hell look like.

 

Besides insecurity, there are lots of other issue involves in.

Violent porn, perverted porn, children porn, many people even didn't think about certain things, but after watching porn, they want to try new things, what is the limit? do they tempted to molest child in reality as well?

 

Or people who watch *regular* porn, the new elements are what they look for, so when they got bored about old regular porn, will they look for perverted and child molest porn?:mad:

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You misinterpret why something like that would be said. Most of it is the truth. Men are not trying to degrade those women but like I said, "You have to be realistic about relationships. What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively? Want man or woman wants to be in a relationship with a person who leaves for work to have sex? We tolerate what they do, but they wouldn’t make good partners for a monogamist relationship".

 

Hating porn so much shows signs of insecurity and control, unless it's viewed too much or for religious reasons.

 

It's ironic because a lot of guys watch people beat the crap out of each other (WWE, pro boxing, and UFC)which is considered morally wrong and barbaric but women say nothing about it. We all watch movies with explicit violence which is not right. Bottom line is, we all choose what to be sensitive to.

 

I think I did misinterpret what you said and I'm sorry. I know no one wants to actually be with someone leading the life of a porn star, but women don't view it as black and white as men do. Let me say that I not only tolerate porn, but I watch it myself. For me the issue isn't "you watch porn...gross". The issue is "you say it's not important, but it is". Obviously porn is important to guys, and granted 99% of men have control over their urges but women sacrifice a lot in a relationship, things men never realize and when you can't at least hear a girl out it makes them question their value in your eyes. I'm trying to be fair here, so yes men make sacrifices too, it seems this one is just too much for them. If you went out with a girl that liked to smoke but said it wasn't a big deal and you didn't like that you would want her to quit or at least a compromise. But instead she goes on about it being her body and you should just get over it...Or even worse lie to you about it, you can't say you wouldn't feel betrayed. Yes a lot of the problems come from insecurities, but if my bf were insecure about something I would do my best to bring him up, not tell him to "get over it".

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My Daughter in law actually left because of my Son enjoyed porn.

Not a problem with me. She actually thought he fantasized actually wanting to have sex with that actress.

I like watching more than my husband, but I would never want to be with that person thats in the film. It's the act one enjoys. The performance.

Now days the porns have no plot. Years ago the was a story. But they're all gang bangs now.

 

She caught him once in the bathroom masterbating to a picture and had an all out fit. Jealous? Yep BIG TIME.

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My hubby hids his porn, he spends $25 a pop for the videos. He jerks off into paper towels and leaves them in the bedroom garbage which the dog chews them up all over the floor. He got drunk one night and spent the mortgage money at the titty bar on lap dances for he and his co-workers.

 

Even Ted Bundy (notorious serial killer) said that porn was the catalyst for his sexual killing spress. Porn can be obsessive and addicting like drugs. I'm tired and angry about it. It's destructive. Once in a while, some free internet porn pics, but when he's spending the household cash on porn and men, women, and children are being murdered because of it....it's damn evil !

 

Sex, beyond the orgasm, is just sex. When anyone, man or woman feels there is more to sex than that, it becomes dangerous and destructive.

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What guy wants a woman who’s had sex with more than 20 guys demonstratively?

 

 

20 in her whole life? This puts a woman on par with porn stars now? Eek! :confused:

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20 in her whole life? This puts a woman on par with porn stars now? Eek!

That is sad. You know it takes all kinds people and I'm one of the wierd ones. I'm more attracted to experienced women than virginal women. I've attepted to have sex with 2 virgins in my life. Attempted because I couldn't even get erect. Give me a "slut" anyday. And by slut I mean, a woman with the sexual orientation of me. :D

There is nothing wrong with degrading someone that wants (or doesn't mind) being degraded. My wife likes for me to call her my little slut. She asks me too. I like to be degraded too, but my wife won't indule me. I have an average endowment, but like most men I want more. I would love my wife to want more. It would excite me to no end if she told me how she needed more than I could offer her, so to speak.

(Half of my brain is female and without a body to match, it yurns to live vicariously thru my wifes vagina. I have boob/vagina envy totally!)

 

Yeah, you know that sucks when he's spending rent money on porn. I'd beat his ass for that.

 

I whole-heartedly reject the notion that "regular" porn is a gateway drug to child molestation, ect. I think that is silly. Porn doesn't create sexual taste and orientation. It was always there you just didn't know anything about it. Like discovering a new food. You try it. You like it. You can live a sheltered life or you can attempt to shelter someone elses. Not for me though.

 

So in old times without porn, couples didn't have healthy relationship because of lack of porn? Why cannot couple develop their own relationship without help of porn?

I could give you 1000 examples of what people did in the "old times" to keep healthy relationships.

Spartan's kept men and women separate almost all of the time. Men were forced to be bisexual and sexually active at a very young age. Women just ended up being bisexual because the men were always with the military. It was absence making the heart fonder to the tenth power. With promiscuity.

Most often, throughout the world and all of history, prostitution was not only tolerated by society, but it was thought to be vital to the sanity of men. Even today in many, many cultures. Woman were oppressed of course and had no power to prevent it so it wasn't very fair of course.

Polygamous cultures. Free love communes. You name it, it's bin' dun'!

Then there are the cultures that supress promiscuity. Cheating ends up being the only outlet. And here we are.

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Hating porn so much shows signs of insecurity and control, unless it's viewed too much or for religious reasons.

 

It's ironic because a lot of guys watch people beat the crap out of each other (WWE, pro boxing, and UFC)which is considered morally wrong and barbaric but women say nothing about it. We all watch movies with explicit violence which is not right. Bottom line is, we all choose what to be sensitive to.

 

 

I hate porn and not because I am insecure or controlling. I am also not religious. I just find porn women disgusting and I have no respect for them. For him to want to get of to a women like that instead of having sex with me is insulting.

 

On a side note I don't say anything about wrestling or violent movies because I like them myself. If I found them offensive I would probably say something.

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I just find porn women disgusting and I have no respect for them.

Just curious as to why?

You know I can really can't understand how someone can become addicted to porn, but the quality of pornography in the past 5 years has gotten rediculous. Some of todays porn stars are significantly hotter and more real than hollywood film stars or pop stars. Most of the top selling actresses have real breasts, are trend-setting. Digital technologies have revolutionized the art (and I really do conscider it art). It's cheap to make too. If your man likes porn, you should concider making porn of you for him to watch. Solo, or with him. Whatever your willing to do, he'd treasure it undoubtably.

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