OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 100% Serious Something I have been thinking about doing for awhile and I just confirmed my appointment (consultation) with one of the top doctors in LA in a few weeks time. I plan on getting my receding hairline filled in with a hair transplant and getting minor work done to my chin area (spot fat removal and chin straightening). This will probably cost me a bit over $10000, but I approved for $12000 financing at 0% (plus some fees) and I have a bit of extra cash saved up. I'm already 28 years old, at this point I really need to do something if I even want a remote chance at getting married and starting a family someday. Don't say "you have plenty of time" because it takes years to get into a relationship, get married, at start up a family and the market drys up the older you get. At 28 years old the market is already pretty damn dry. After I get these things done it's hard to say what other type of surgery I will need. My bodyfat is already pretty low so maybe just to clean up some more genetic flaws in my face. Also, if I still do not have a girl by the age of 32 I'm going to empty my retirement account and fly to japan to get the height increase surgery.
Els Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Whatever floats your boat. If this is what you feel you want to do and it will make you happy, then by all means go ahead. Better than being in the cynical, depressed, disbelieving and hopeless mindset you are in now.
espec10001 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Whatever floats your boat mate but you gotta watch out for the ladies that only show up when you are winning!
Rorschach Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I'm a financial advisor, and I disapprove this idea. borrowing 12,000 dollars! oh god! I'm going to laugh when you get it done and don't even feel any better about yourself and stay single and miserable until you realize it's your attitude that has to change.
Art_Critic Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 First off.. Good luck.. Second.. and this isn't meant in a mean spirited way but only in a way that is how I see it.. I think your money would be better spent on getting some therapy for yourself. It isn't your looks that are keeping you from finding a woman it is your emotional you..your attitude and your depression. A plastic surgeon only treats the outside and it is your inside that a woman will fall in love with. Call your insurance company and make an appointment to see a therapist and save the 10k for some other thing.
Els Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I'm a financial advisor, and I disapprove this idea. borrowing 12,000 dollars! oh god! I'm going to laugh when you get it done and don't even feel any better about yourself and stay single and miserable until you realize it's your attitude that has to change. At least he'll realize it THEN. Which he has failed to do after 384979324843470324342 advisory posts.
2sure Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Gee, I dont know. Ive had stuff done, but never borrowed money to do it. Also - I have found that having the "work" done itself does not make me more attractive to other people...BUT having the work done gave me some personal confidence which did make me more attractive. In hindsight, honestly...I didnt need it. If it were say...correcting your teeth, go for it...but when cosmetic surgery is something you have convinced yourself you NEED...you have to think a little harder.
Lakeside_runner Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 12K... that's a lot. Are you 100% sure you want to do it? Think about meddical consequences in 20 years.
jackson30 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I've never had anything done but I can tell you my wife's experience, as soon as she recovered from the first one, she looked in the mirror and said "well, that looks better, but now my ___ looks bad" so she had that fixed, then the next thing and.... now she looking at another thing and I'm trying to get her to stop because I think it will always be something and you can never win, it will never be enough, she'll never look 20 again
tigressA Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 You have the little worried face icon next to the title of this thread. That's not a good sign. I'm in agreement with everyone else--if you get it done, you'll likely still be miserable unless you do some real work on the inside. I don't care if a guy is literally a gift from the gods physically; if he has your incredibly bitter viewpoint on dating, relationships and women he's real ugly.
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 I'm a financial advisor, and I disapprove this idea. borrowing 12,000 dollars! oh god! I'm going to laugh when you get it done and don't even feel any better about yourself and stay single and miserable until you realize it's your attitude that has to change. It will be paid back in 18 months. I can afford the monthly payments, barely, I will have almost not extra money for a year and a half. I'm honestly thinking about moving back in with my parents to have extra spending money if I go through with this.
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 I think your money would be better spent on getting some therapy for yourself. I tried therapy a little over a year back, it didn't work at all and was a waste of time/money.
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 You have the little worried face icon next to the title of this thread. That's not a good sign. I'm in agreement with everyone else--if you get it done, you'll likely still be miserable unless you do some real work on the inside. I don't care if a guy is literally a gift from the gods physically; if he has your incredibly bitter viewpoint on dating, relationships and women he's real ugly. The worry icon is because I honestly do not want to spend this money but I feel like I have no choice by societies standards. Because of the damn media men are expected to look like you just walked off a hollywood set. Don't give me any crap about how women are also expected to look perfect because men do not like the rail thin models that the media tries to push on us. Men are way less susceptible to the media standards of beauty.
tigressA Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 The worry icon is because I honestly do not want to spend this money but I feel like I have no choice by societies standards. Because of the damn media men are expected to look like you just walked off a hollywood set. Don't give me any crap about how women are also expected to look perfect because men do not like the rail thin models that the media tries to push on us. Men are way less susceptible to the media standards of beauty. This is exactly what I'm talking about...and if men are way less susceptible to media standards, then why are you even contemplating the surgery?
espec10001 Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Men are way less susceptible to the media standards of beauty. Obviously not in this case!
xpaperxcutx Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Nothing against elective surgery but wouldn't 10k be put to better use aside from the chin reconstruction? I'm not trying to criticize, I also understand the need to look great if not perfect to the opposite sex. But 10K is alot, about the same price for silicone implants. I was at the doctors earlier this year for a breast implant consultation, and I can say that I was ready to take the plunge as well, despite my parents protests. The thing is, being a woman, not having an attractive body ( breast wise) can put a damper on my self esteem, but I'm willing to wait another year or two to see if I'm still ready ( the thing is, silicone is only available for people 22 and over; I'm 20). The allure of surgery is tempting, but are you certain there are no other options aside from going that road of no return? The hairline thing I can perfectly understand, it's the result of genetics, and there are various methods to prevent and regrow hair. But chin reconstruction? Do you have BDD? You say you're not fat, so I'm assuming you're skinny. How about working out? I don't know why you feel there are no other options.
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 This is exactly what I'm talking about...and if men are way less susceptible to media standards, then why are you even contemplating the surgery? That doesn't make any sense. If women were impressionable, men would have to conform. If men were NOT impressionable, women would NOT have to conform.
TouchedByViolet Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 OpenGL, you should really post a picture of yourself.... If you are going to seriously consider 10k of plastic surgery, you should first find out if you need it. I think this forum will help you make that decision. A change in fashion, hygiene and hair/beard styles can make you desirable enough without going to plastic surgery. POST A PIC!
Els Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I think the OP has a slight problem with understanding the meaning of 'less susceptible'. :/
Author OpenGL Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 Nothing against elective surgery but wouldn't 10k be put to better use aside from the chin reconstruction? I'm not trying to criticize, I also understand the need to look great if not perfect to the opposite sex. But 10K is alot, about the same price for silicone implants. I was at the doctors earlier this year for a breast implant consultation, and I can say that I was ready to take the plunge as well, despite my parents protests. The thing is, being a woman, not having an attractive body ( breast wise) can put a damper on my self esteem, but I'm willing to wait another year or two to see if I'm still ready ( the thing is, silicone is only available for people 22 and over; I'm 20). The allure of surgery is tempting, but are you certain there are no other options aside from going that road of no return? The hairline thing I can perfectly understand, it's the result of genetics, and there are various methods to prevent and regrow hair. But chin reconstruction? Do you have BDD? You say you're not fat, so I'm assuming you're skinny. How about working out? I don't know why you feel there are no other options. The bulk of the cost is restoring my hairline... really high quality (FUE) hair transplants are VERY expensive, but after doing some research it's not worth doing unless you shell out a lot of money for the high quality methods/doctors. And like you, this will help my self-esteem about myself. My chin thing is also genetic. If you look at different peoples faces, even athletes, not everybody has a straight/sharped edge chin. Luckily my jawline is pretty sharp, it's just my chin stores a lot of skin/fat for some stupid reason. I'm not scrawny/skinny at all. I'm sitting at 11% bodyfat and can bench press almost double my body weight. Physically I'm in excellent shape.
xpaperxcutx Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 The bulk of the cost is restoring my hairline... really high quality (FUE) hair transplants are VERY expensive, but after doing some research it's not worth doing unless you shell out a lot of money for the high quality methods/doctors. And like you, this will help my self-esteem about myself. My chin thing is also genetic. If you look at different peoples faces, even athletes, not everybody has a straight/sharped edge chin. Luckily my jawline is pretty sharp, it's just my chin stores a lot of skin/fat for some stupid reason. I'm not scrawny/skinny at all. I'm sitting at 11% bodyfat and can bench press almost double my body weight. Physically I'm in excellent shape. Oh, I see. I know that most surgery costs reflects on where you live and how qualified the doctor is. Where I am, New york, surgery costs varies between 5- 10k with the highest rates being in Manhattan. Is this the only doctor you have looked into? May I recommend a site? go to www.realself.com . They provide questions and answers for you from various board certified doctors from your area. I still have to say that if you're going to use that much on reconstructive surgery, I would suggest you ask around more and collect information.
sweetjasmine Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 It will be paid back in 18 months. I can afford the monthly payments, barely, I will have almost not extra money for a year and a half. I'm honestly thinking about moving back in with my parents to have extra spending money if I go through with this. That'll make you so much more attractive to the opposite sex. "I live with my parents because my self-esteem was so low that I shelled out 10K for plastic surgery." This isn't going to make you feel any better.
Jilly Bean Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) I'm going to laugh when you get it done and don't even feel any better about yourself and stay single and miserable until you realize it's your attitude that has to change. OP - I fully support anyone getting plastic surgery, if it's done for the right reasons. Stay realistic that it won't change your life and be a miracle fix, but, if you have self-esteem issues and have wanted to change aspects of your appearance for a long time, then go for it. Though, let me make a suggestion on the hairline thing. If your complaint is that you are losing your hair in your late 20's, why not save the money from the surgery and just shave your head? I happen to think a lot of men look fabulous shaved bald, and it's still a very fashionable look. Then you could not be so cash-strapped from the surgery, and can put the money towards procedures that will have more bang for the buck. Edited May 25, 2010 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
VertexSquared Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 JB: No need for the vitriol. OpenGL: I still say a pic would help steer the advice. Getting surgery done is fine if it's something that's a serious issue. I had a surgery that removed extra tissue when I was younger and it did wonders for my self-esteem. Don't regret it for an instant. Of course, if you're getting something fixed that doesn't need fixing, you're out a heavy buck and still in the same dating struggles as before.
xpaperxcutx Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Jesus. With advice like this, no wonder you're fat and alone. OP - I fully support anyone getting plastic surgery, if it's done for the right reasons. Stay realistic that it won't change your life and be a miracle fix, but, if you have self-esteem issues and have wanted to change aspects of your appearance for a long time, then go for it. Though, let me make a suggestion on the hairline thing. If your complaint is that you are losing your hair in your late 20's, why not save the money from the surgery and just shave your head? I happen to think a lot of men look fabulous shaved bald, and it's still a very fashionable look. Then you could not be so cash-strapped from the surgery, and can put the money towards procedures that will have more bang for the buck. Oh, J_B, this is the best advice so far. OP, you can go for the Bruce Willis look... he's like 40, and still managed to bag a twenty something year old hottie.
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