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Old 2nd July 2009, 8:20 AM   #1
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Why many men in the west are reluctant to get married

I read about a divorced guy who was earning $120k gross a year. After tax, alimony, and child support, guess what his take-home pay was?

I'll let you post your best guesses here, before I reveal the answer.
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Old 2nd July 2009, 8:26 AM   #2
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Why is he getting divorced? It would have some bearing on that amount...

And you do mean California and not just "the west" right?
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Old 2nd July 2009, 8:41 AM   #3
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Between 30-40K if the income was from employment and not self-employment. If the latter, he should fire his accountant/tax adviser
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Old 2nd July 2009, 8:54 AM   #4
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How many kids.. how long were they married.. why are they getting divorced.. what are HIS assets worth...how much does his ex make.. does she stay at home and raise those kids...

If the guy has 1 million in assets sitting in his name, investments.. 401k etc etc.. and he doesn't want to give up the marital portion then he will pay more for that...

To many reasons why he doesn't have a big take home amount..
also.. who has custody of those children now..

I'll bet the amount is low.. but isn't it in almost all divorce cases ?.. I mean they are trying to raise children together after all and he does have to level the playing field with alimony...

Wouldn't it really suck for him and his children if he was able to keep all his gross pay and not pay child support or alimony ?
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Old 2nd July 2009, 4:53 PM   #5
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Why is he getting divorced? It would have some bearing on that amount...

And you do mean California and not just "the west" right?
I think he means western world, US, Canada, Europe etc.
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Old 4th July 2009, 1:08 PM   #6
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Well he can probably afford a small efficiency apartment, if he's lucky, if the cow isn't getting 98% percent of his income.

Child support should be based on the reasonable cost of raising children. Nowadays its just the court asking men how much they're making so they know how much they can take.

Keep your stuff in your pants, men. Because sooner or later, you're gonna be screwed over.

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Old 4th July 2009, 8:09 PM   #8
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I read about a divorced guy who was earning $120k gross a year. After tax, alimony, and child support, guess what his take-home pay was?

I'll let you post your best guesses here, before I reveal the answer.
Don't leave us hanging whats the number?! I'd say 2-3 thousand
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Old 5th July 2009, 10:09 AM   #9
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$55.000?

No.. $50.000

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Old 5th July 2009, 10:54 AM   #10
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So you post a question like that and then never come back to post the answer?

Anyhoo, here's my thing. Men in the west shouldn't be reluctant to get married, men should be reluctant to marry the WRONG person. There is most likely 400 red flags before a man marries the wrong woman (and vice versa), but they trudge on anyhow and get married. Only to get divorced a few years later after they've had three kids thinking THAT will definitely save their marriage - which it never does.

Find your best friend, your other half, before you get married. Make sure there isn't even ONE red flag, make sure you're not compromising who you are or what you want for yourself out of life or changing everything to make the other person happy. Then get married, have your kids and don't worry about the alimony/child support sheeite.
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Old 5th July 2009, 11:17 AM   #11
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Or, if you are really smart, make sure all your assets are not in your name! I know someone whose assests are exclusively in the name of his Dad .. just in case it all goes wrong.

Others I know who have escaped with mimimum damage went self employed pretty bloody quickly in order to escape the evils of what is 'The Child Support Agency'.

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Old 5th July 2009, 5:27 PM   #12
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Men in the west shouldn't be reluctant to get married, men should be reluctant to marry the WRONG person.
I agree. Also, men all over the world are reluctant to marry these days, not only in the west. It's a generational thing maybe.
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Old 6th July 2009, 3:05 AM   #13
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Well, you didn't mention if there was an arrearage owing on the CS. So the maximum allowable in that case (if he's not providing more than half support for current/new dependents - i.e., kids living with him now) is 60%. Taxes are around 30%...aren't they? So I'm going to say $12,000. LOL Extreme case, but if that's so, he needed a better attorney.
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Old 6th July 2009, 3:34 AM   #14
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I think this reason for not getting married is nonsense. If it wasn't nonsense, then men wouldn't even be having sex with the women who they refuse to marry.

I mean, why do men have sex with women to begin with when all women have to do is get pregnant and not have an abortion to get child support? I know there are condoms, but women have been known to get pregnant with condoms and men have been known to not want to use them.

Whether or not the couple is married isn't going to stop judges from requiring the men to pay money for supporting their kids.
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Old 6th July 2009, 3:38 AM   #15
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Getting for men these days is like playing russian roulette or betting everything you own in vegas. If you win it is great but most men lose and it costs them dearly.
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