burning 4 revenge Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Thank god for alcohol. She's one b*tch I can count on. I've stayed sober for four months, but f*ck it. This sh*t is killing me but i'm so bored and miserable and dissillusioned with everything, I don't see how it makes it any worse. At least I can still feel it and I can't feel so many things anymore. And tonight the warmth of the pint glass. She never lets me down. I've been trying to stay straight to write, but I keep obssessing over the whore who wrecked me, or I should say the whore who let me wreck myself and i keep staring at the page and staring at the page and nothing comes out like a geriatric trying to take a piss. Just nothing but fear and futility. And so f*ck art. Art is a poor substitute for love anyway. Both cut your emotions to the quick, but art is the poor man's version of love and everybody knows it. They are the two avenues through which a person expresses their awe at the universe. both are motivated at their center by a need for immortality, but art is the loner's way, the loser's path. That's why so many great artists are losers. And drinkers. Here's to you.
laRubiaBonita Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Artists are generaly more emotional.....which does not = loser. alcohol does nothing but delay the emotions you think you are drinking away. but those emotions are just waiting till you are sober up again, then they will creep out and be addressed....and you will STILL have to deal with them. Might as well get over it now, instead of delaying and dwelling on the inevitable.
Craig Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Thank god for alcohol. She's one b*tch I can count on. I've stayed sober for four months, but f*ck it. This sh*t is killing me but i'm so bored and miserable and dissillusioned with everything, I don't see how it makes it any worse. At least I can still feel it and I can't feel so many things anymore. And tonight the warmth of the pint glass. She never lets me down. I've been trying to stay straight to write, but I keep obssessing over the whore who wrecked me, or I should say the whore who let me wreck myself and i keep staring at the page and staring at the page and nothing comes out like a geriatric trying to take a piss. Just nothing but fear and futility. And so f*ck art. Art is a poor substitute for love anyway. Both cut your emotions to the quick, but art is the poor man's version of love and everybody knows it. They are the two avenues through which a person expresses their awe at the universe. both are motivated at their center by a need for immortality, but art is the loner's way, the loser's path. That's why so many great artists are losers. And drinkers. Here's to you. Sober for 4 months but a dry drunk you remain and you find yourself in the trap that so many others have found themselves. The acronym HALT is a good thing to remember for recovering addicts (alcohol is a drug). If you want to avoid going back to the old ways it is important not to place yourself in a situation where you are Hungry, Angry, Lonley and Tired at the same time. If you're there you're in danger of starting to use again. In you I see Anger, Lonliness and perhaps Tiredness. Were you hungry too? Are you drinking to feel, drinking to avoid feeling or have you just set up your drinking as a way to avoid the perception of failure or something else?
Guest Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Ah yes, I don't understand him, so he must be evil, sick, disgusting -- all those feelings are going through his head and motivating him to choose this path. I have read several of this poster's (burning 4 revenge) other posts, and have noticed he tends to use humor and comments designed to shock or repulse. It's a technique he apparently applies to push people away. It's part of his self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone, including himself, thinks that he is disgusting, and unworthy of love, therefore he continues to feel badly about himself. It's sad to see people like the poster above me, pointing fingers, accusing, and like a pack of wolves, angrily attacking someone for being different. Driving them out of the pack, and destroying everything they do not understand, with vast sweeping accusations that serve only to make them feel better for their inability to cognitively process information that is too foreign to them.
Craig Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Hey, it's not my theory just a possible explanation. Some people have challenges that result in them saying inappropriate things without realizing that what they said is inappropriate. That could be the case here or he could be something else.
laRubiaBonita Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I too was disturbed at that comment and don't know what it is supposed to mean, if anything considering his avatar is a mosquito sucking blood. Maybe he is a wannabe artist hoping to elicit controversy? I just thought it went along with the avatar skeeter too.....i mean mine says i am up your butt.
Craig Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 That's nice and forgiving of you Craig but COME ON! You said you didn't know how to take that. Hello? There's only ONE way to take it. It's vulgar and very offensive. And it takes a LOT to offend me. I don't give a rat's ass if he has "challenges." What kind of f***ing "challenge" could a person have that would not make them realize that this is sick and demented? And who cares anyway? Why should I? Should that comment be forgiven under ANY circumstance? Of COURSE NOT! He could have ADD/HD. People with ADD/HD may be prone to saying the wrong things at the wrong times and sometimes misinterpreting social cues. People with ADD/HD can be prone to self medicating (the alcohol abuse), hard on themselves and are typically very creative types. Hence the artist. I guess you don't really have to care but it goes both ways doesn't it? How are you making this (your) world a better place by dismissing and condemning him? Sure if he's a bona fide pedophile I'd say lock him up and throw away the key because there doesn't seem to be a way to rehab pedo's but it would be nice to know if he's guilty before we hang him.
Touche Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 He could have ADD/HD. People with ADD/HD may be prone to saying the wrong things at the wrong times and sometimes misinterpreting social cues. People with ADD/HD can be prone to self medicating (the alcohol abuse), hard on themselves and are typically very creative types. Hence the artist. I guess you don't really have to care but it goes both ways doesn't it? How are you making this (your) world a better place by dismissing and condemning him? Sure if he's a bona fide pedophile I'd say lock him up and throw away the key because there doesn't seem to be a way to rehab pedo's but it would be nice to know if he's guilty before we hang him. He IS guilty of the offensive comment in my view. I didn't call him a pedophile. I DO think he's guilty of being rude and offensive and I stand by that. And don't get me started on that bogus ADD/HD thing. Poppycock!
a4a Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 because there doesn't seem to be a way to rehab pedo's . Sure there is..... It's quick and virtually painless. Perm. cure for sure.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 He IS guilty of the offensive comment in my view. I didn't call him a pedophile. I DO think he's guilty of being rude and offensive and I stand by that. And don't get me started on that bogus ADD/HD thing. Poppycock! What's so bogus about ADD/HD?
SmoochieFace Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 What's so bogus about ADD/HD? Don't get her started on that one... I wasted an entire day arguing with her about it. You've been warned.
Touche Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 What's so bogus about ADD/HD? Oh please don't get me started on this again. I've already debated this on here numerous times. Do the research. There is a lot of credible research out there showing that it IS bogus. You can choose to believe whichever side you want. There's lots of evidence on BOTH sides. I'm convinced it's a behavioral difference and nothing more sinister than that.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Oh please don't get me started on this again. I've already debated this on here numerous times. Do the research. There is a lot of credible research out there showing that it IS bogus. You can choose to believe whichever side you want. There's lots of evidence on BOTH sides. I'm convinced it's a behavioral difference and nothing more sinister than that. I have done the research. I've also known people that have had it, and I see first hand.
tinktronik Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Hey, it's not my theory just a possible explanation. Some people have challenges that result in them saying inappropriate things without realizing that what they said is inappropriate. That could be the case here or he could be something else. Obviously , if you are farmilliar with this poster , it was meant to be connected the avie and the laocation. Personally , I find his buried wit to be quite subtle most of the time (the earmark of intelligence) the kind where you must look for the punch line .The I had an abortion avie was genius. Perhaps the OP dos'nt care if anyone finds it innapropriate.And if we do it's not really their problem , its ours. Oh and please don't get touche started on any for of mentall illness , she dosn't believe any of them exist .She will not see reason on this , not our reason anyway.
Touche Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Obviously , if you are farmilliar with this poster , it was meant to be connected the avie and the laocation. Personally , I find his buried wit to be quite subtle most of the time (the earmark of intelligence) the kind where you must look for the punch line .The I had an abortion avie was genius. Perhaps the OP dos'nt care if anyone finds it innapropriate.And if we do it's not really their problem , its ours. Oh and please don't get touche started on any for of mentall illness , she dosn't believe any of them exist .She will not see reason on this , not our reason anyway. Please don't speak for me Tink. I can speak for myself. I NEVER said I didn't believe in mental illnes. I just have done enough research to not believe in THIS particular "disorder." And yes, a couple of others. But of COURSE mental disorders exist. I've "seen" it here on LS! As for seeing it first hand, Erika, sorry but I'm not convinced you saw anything of the sort. You can't "see" it. You might think you saw behaviors that you believe are classified as ADD/ADHD. I've done the research too. And have "seen" people who have been diagnosed as such but all I "saw" were people. People with behavioral differences just like all the rest of us. I didn't "see" ADD or ADHD.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Please don't speak for me Tink. I can speak for myself. I NEVER said I didn't believe in mental illnes. I just have done enough research to not believe in THIS particular "disorder." And yes, a couple of others. But of COURSE mental disorders exist. I've "seen" it here on LS! As for seeing it first hand, Erika, sorry but I'm not convinced you saw anything of the sort. You can't "see" it. You might think you saw behaviors that you believe are classified as ADD/ADHD. I've done the research too. And have "seen" people who have been diagnosed as such but all I "saw" were people. People with behavioral differences just like all the rest of us. I didn't "see" ADD or ADHD. No, of course I didn't literally SEE ADD/HD. I just meant I saw my sister in law, and the way it affected her. Obviously you haven't done alot of research. And I prefer to go by seeing it first hand, and how things affect people. For whatever research you found saying it doesn't exist, there are 1000 other resources out there saying it does. I didn't know it was such a touchy subject with you Touche, but then again, alot of things seem to be touchy for you..
tinktronik Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Please don't speak for me Tink. I can speak for myself. I NEVER said I didn't believe in mental illnes. I just have done enough research to not believe in THIS particular "disorder." And yes, a couple of others. But of COURSE mental disorders exist. I've "seen" it here on LS! As for seeing it first hand, Erika, sorry but I'm not convinced you saw anything of the sort. You can't "see" it. You might think you saw behaviors that you believe are classified as ADD/ADHD. I've done the research too. And have "seen" people who have been diagnosed as such but all I "saw" were people. People with behavioral differences just like all the rest of us. I didn't "see" ADD or ADHD. Why do you feel it nessecary to shove it down everyones throat that you don't believe in there particular "disorders"?
SmoochieFace Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 No, of course I didn't literally SEE ADD/HD. I just meant I saw my sister in law, and the way it affected her. Obviously you haven't done alot of research. And I prefer to go by seeing it first hand, and how things affect people. For whatever research you found saying it doesn't exist, there are 1000 other resources out there saying it does. I didn't know it was such a touchy subject with you Touche, but then again, alot of things seem to be touchy for you.. ... She's just *touchy* cuz I *busted* her earlier. She'll be all right in the morning. Anyway... ADD and ADHD most certainly do exist. I have Asperger's myself (which is related to ADD) and my 7 year-old has ADHD. These aren't *imaginary* conditions... except to the narrow-minded and ignorant.
tinktronik Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 ... She's just *touchy* cuz I *busted* her earlier. She'll be all right in the morning. Anyway... ADD and ADHD most certainly do exist. I have Asperger's myself (which is related to ADD) and my 7 year-old has ADHD. These aren't *imaginary* conditions... except to the narrow-minded. I've had my son screened for AS , he sees a theapist ,but does not have a firm diagnosis. I am almost 100% positive that he does have AS . It is undeniable if you know someone who has it .He had a past diagnosis of ADHD , but there was always something "more" .There is absolutly a difference between a child with a lot of energy and a child with ADD.
SmoochieFace Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I've had my son screened for AS , he sees a theapist ,but does not have a firm diagnosis. I am almost 100% positive that he does have AS . It is undeniable if you know someone who has it . Exactly. Those who vehemently deny the existence of autism obviously have never been around anyone who has it so their *professional opinions* don't mean jack s*** when all is said and done.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I'm sorry I even brought it up. I only did because I saw her say basically ADD was poppycock. I didn't know we had a doctor in the house. Of course you can't look at somebody and say they had ADD. Just like by looking at me, you couldn't tell I live with chronic pain. But you CAN tell sometimes by things they do, or write. Not everybody of course, but some of em you can. I can tell my sister in law has ADD. But Touche, you need to open your mind and realize that just because you don't think something exists, doesn't mean it really doesn't.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I'm sorry I even brought it up. I only did because I saw her say basically ADD was poppycock. I didn't know we had a doctor in the house. Of course you can't look at somebody and say they had ADD. Just like by looking at me, you couldn't tell I live with chronic pain. But you CAN tell sometimes by things they do, or write. Not everybody of course, but some of em you can. I can tell my sister in law has ADD. But Touche, you need to open your mind and realize that just because you don't think something exists, doesn't mean it really doesn't. For all the million links you could give me trying to prove it's all 'made up', I could give you a million more trying to prove it's for real.
Touche Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 No, of course I didn't literally SEE ADD/HD. I just meant I saw my sister in law, and the way it affected her. Obviously you haven't done alot of research. And I prefer to go by seeing it first hand, and how things affect people. For whatever research you found saying it doesn't exist, there are 1000 other resources out there saying it does. I didn't know it was such a touchy subject with you Touche, but then again, alot of things seem to be touchy for you.. Not touchy at all. And you're wrong. There's just as much research saying it's bogus as there is saying it's legit. Guess you just haven't looked for it. It's funny how if your opinion goes against the masses' opinions you're all of a sudden "touchy" or you're trying to shove something down someone's throat. Look, the research both ways convince me that it's bogus. You don't have to believe it. And I'm not shoving anything down anyone's throat. I didn't even want to get into this again. It's so boring. I'm not asking anyone to believe differently. I'm just saying what I believe since another poster brought it up in his argument but I was making a point that it didn't hold up for me. That's all. Whatever, Tink. You can say there's differences but I'll say there's not. Yeah, some kids are more high energy and don't focus as easily. They have to be taught in a different way than most sometimes too. Doesn't make it a dirsorder in my book...just a different learning style and a variation in behavior. That's MY opinion. Period. End of story. If others believe it and want to take their kids to be tested and medicated that's their business. I've seen FIRST HAND that this doesn't require medication in order to control this behavior. Please, I'm really not telling you what to believe. Don't tell me to believe otherwise. I won't shove my views down anyone's throat. Accept what I say or don't. What do I care?
Touche Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I'm sorry I even brought it up. I only did because I saw her say basically ADD was poppycock. I didn't know we had a doctor in the house. Of course you can't look at somebody and say they had ADD. Just like by looking at me, you couldn't tell I live with chronic pain. But you CAN tell sometimes by things they do, or write. Not everybody of course, but some of em you can. I can tell my sister in law has ADD. But Touche, you need to open your mind and realize that just because you don't think something exists, doesn't mean it really doesn't. For all the million links you could give me trying to prove it's all 'made up', I could give you a million more trying to prove it's for real. Of course, Erika we can match each other link for link on the research and "evidence" that it exists. That's why we, as intelligent people, have to use our brains and decide for ourselves which is the more credible position on this. And sorry, you're not a doctor either and you can't tell that your sister in law or anyone else has ADD. Like I said, behavioral variant or difference maybe, yeah. But you can't make a diagnosis just from looking and observing her. I've made up my mind and you've made up yours. That's cool.
erika2610 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Of course, Erika we can match each other link for link on the research and "evidence" that it exists. That's why we, as intelligent people, have to use our brains and decide for ourselves which is the more credible position on this. And sorry, you're not a doctor either and you can't tell that your sister in law or anyone else has ADD. Like I said, behavioral variant or difference maybe, yeah. But you can't make a diagnosis just from looking and observing her. I've made up my mind and you've made up yours. That's cool. But how can you tell me that I don't know she has ADD? I'm around her everyday. I know the difference between her and just a hyper person..
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