Was I drugged by my bf or was it just the alcohol?

[Lishy]

I just thought that maybe she says all of this because she loves the attention she gets when she says such things? I do not know any person who can get a reaction like she getting and reply with "Oh dont worry about me, he is a nice guy I just wondered how every time I go to his house I get sick and forget things maybe the 2 glasses of alchohol I had made me pass out as I was binge drinking the 2 glasses"

 

Seems weird to me!

[johan]

That's pretty cynical, Lishy. I wouldn't jump to conclusions like that. I think it's best to take her at her word.

[2sunny]

Well, I wish we had heard back from HG yesterday (Sun).

 

Wonder how the weekend went as a whole.....

[alphamale]

Well, I wish we had heard back from HG yesterday (Sun). Wonder how the weekend went as a whole.....

you don't think that HCG is dead or anything?

[Touche]

you don't think that HCG is dead or anything?

 

Hey I love a laugh as much as the next person but that's pretty tacky. The girl has some obvious problems and a lot of people are really concerned about her. IF this is a true portrayal of things, this is a serious issue. And I say IF because, I along with some others, have started to question the veracity of all this. Call me cynical!

[tinktronik]

I don't believe that this is a fake post , more that HCG either has a pretty creepy bf or shes having delusions , either way she needs some help with this situation.I too am worried about her, she needs to realize that either way this is a bad situation. I hope she updates us on whats going on with her .

[Lishy]

I worry about HCG too, please do not get me wrong - I just find it very strange that she can just accept these things he is doing and then say he is a nice guy!

 

If, every time you went to your boyfriends, you felt sick, would you not have more of a clue that something is very badly wrong? I would say he has been upping her doses of some date rape drug until he got the right amount to knock her out so he could do whatever he wants to her!

 

For her to be the age she is and to have lots of money and to allow herself to be treated like this is just beyond belief. She asks advice and gets us all so worried and then halfs, quarters and forgets all advice and goes and dyes her hair black and begs him to allow her to stop eating as she is full up! Hell I couldnt get my 9 year old to do that!

 

Just seems odd to me is all!

[blind_otter]

I worry about HCG too, please do not get me wrong - I just find it very strange that she can just accept these things he is doing and then say he is a nice guy!

 

If, every time you went to your boyfriends, you felt sick, would you not have more of a clue that something is very badly wrong? I would say he has been upping her doses of some date rape drug until he got the right amount to knock her out so he could do whatever he wants to her!

 

For her to be the age she is and to have lots of money and to allow herself to be treated like this is just beyond belief. She asks advice and gets us all so worried and then halfs, quarters and forgets all advice and goes and dyes her hair black and begs him to allow her to stop eating as she is full up! Hell I couldnt get my 9 year old to do that!

 

Just seems odd to me is all!

 

 

Have you ever been in an abusive relationship?

 

I have. I've been like she is now. I still am to a certain degree. So to me, it'sf rustrating, but not questionable. Women who live with abuse rationalize things that are much more violent and damaging than this every day, Lishy. They cover up bruises on their face and say they fell down the stairs.

 

These situations rarely involve logic and rational thought.

[Lishy]

Yes honey I was in a mentally abusive relationship for 14 years!

 

I know how things grind you down and also how you do things 'just for an easy life' - What, however, I do NOT understand one bit is how she is acting so naive about this and how she is saying things to get us worried and then trivialising them.

 

Most people stay in abusive relationships as they depend on the person who is abusing for housing or money or kids - HCG has none of these problems!

 

She also is not listening to one bit of advice that all of us who are worried is giving!

[2sunny]

Yes honey I was in a mentally abusive relationship for 14 years!

 

I know how things grind you down and also how you do things 'just for an easy life' - What, however, I do NOT understand one bit is how she is acting so naive about this and how she is saying things to get us worried and then trivialising them.

 

Most people stay in abusive relationships as they depend on the person who is abusing for housing or money or kids - HCG has none of these problems!

 

She also is not listening to one bit of advice that all of us who are worried is giving!

 

 

Sort of reminds me of aussiemandy and the married dentist!

[blind_otter]

Yes honey I was in a mentally abusive relationship for 14 years!

 

I know how things grind you down and also how you do things 'just for an easy life' - What, however, I do NOT understand one bit is how she is acting so naive about this and how she is saying things to get us worried and then trivialising them.

 

Most people stay in abusive relationships as they depend on the person who is abusing for housing or money or kids - HCG has none of these problems!

 

She also is not listening to one bit of advice that all of us who are worried is giving!

 

Yeah, well that was me with my psycho ex. The guy couldn't hold down a job to save his life and I basically supported him. But I allowed it to escalate.

 

In every abusive relationship I've been in, I didn't stay for housing or money. My parents are well off, and I own my own house and car. It's a different dynamic than the one you experienced.

[jerbear]

She also is not listening to one bit of advice that all of us who are worried is giving!

 

I gave up on a friend / ex /(whatever) because she chose a guy like that over me. He came in, left, etc... kept her around. It was sex that kept her from being lonely. She mentioned sex and nice guy and making excuses for him and being in self denial. It will take her some time to get over it to get out; afterwhich for her age maybe to late.

[Walk]

HotCaliGirl..

 

When you woke up the next morning, did your stomach hurt? You know how after you throw up, the muscles in your chest and stomach are sore for a while. Were yours? At all? You never mentioned anything like that.

 

Also, I black out all the time when drinking too much. (3 vodka's would do it for me.) I don't remember portions of what happened, but ALWAYS remember parts of it after someone tells me what happened. And usually if I start puking, I'm lucid at that point. I remember that. Might not have all the details on what lead up to that point, but the puking is very VIVID!! 30+ years of living, and there isn't once I don't remember that. And I FEEL it the next day. Especially if it was so bad I had to be showered off to get cleaned up. I've had that happen before (20's) and although it was fuzzy, I remembered the next morning after my head cleared and I figured out what was going on.

 

I've talked to numerous people about there wild drinking nights, and all have about the same capacity to remember hazy details of the evening even if they "blacked out". Bits and pieces here and there, but missing some points in between. Not 8 hour long periods with no recollection. They might not remember hitting on the waitress, but the remember other parts of the night.

 

Get out of this NOW!!!!!!!!!!! Not one part of your description even hints at being a normal reaction from you or from him.

 

I personal believe that if you feel you have to hide the dynamics of your relationship from family and friends in order to "appear" normal, then you know something is seriously wrong. GET OUT of that relationship before your either killed, raped, or seriously mentally f***ed!

[littlekitty]

HCG - Please listen to the people on this board. It sounds like he has been administering something to you for a while, working out the dosage to knock you out on 2-3 drinks. It took him a couple of times to get it right didn't it? The first couple you just got sick?!

 

I personally know how hard it is to leave this type of relationship, but please, I'm begging you, don't discount that he drugged you. I believe he did.

 

Please listen to us.

[Vertex]

I really hope she is alright. :/

[alphamale]

Most people stay in abusive relationships as they depend on the person who is abusing for housing or money or kids - HCG has none of these problems!

Incorrect LISHY....most women stay with verbally or physicaly abusive men because they exhibit very masculine behaviours. They dominate and control and this is a huge turn on for many females.

[Lishy]

Oh Alpha, come back when you are a female! Being abused verbally or mentally is NOT attractive!

 

There are so many different reasons that people stay with abusive men and it mainly boils down to lack of self worth, insecurity and fear ... Not attraction!

 

Every situation is different so there is never one answer for everyone.

 

HCG stays with her guy out of fear! Her fears stem from her childhood.

 

I just have doubts about it all! Call me cynical, I am cynical!

[alphamale]

Oh Alpha, come back when you are a female! Being abused verbally or mentally is NOT attractive!

I agree abuse is not attractive but it is what the abuse represents that is attractive to these women. How else would you explain them not leaving or leaving and then repeated going back for more? There is no chain keeping these women from physically leaving the house. There is no rhyme or reason to this, it's totally irrational.

[Vertex]

I'd agree to an extent. People seem to seek what they can't have -- they stay with abuse and reject kindness. I don't know why this happens so often. I see it repeatedly where girls pursue someone who doesn't quite give them the time of day. Perhaps it is immaturity and insecurity. I don't know.

[basscatcher]

I have a bit of experience with staying in an abusive relationship.

 

Here is some info I got of the internet:

 

Why Do Women Stay in Abusive Relationships?

 

The reasons women stay in abusive relationships are very complicated. There are a wide range of emotional feelings that allow the abuse to continue and prevent the woman from leaving. Here are a few reasons that women stay in an abusive relationship:

• Fear - Women fear the physical harm that might come if they attempt to leave.
  
• Love - Women may truly have deep feelings for the abusive partner.
  
• Promises - Promises that this abuse will never happen again.
  
• Abuse = Love - Confusion between being loved and being controlled by their partner.
  
• Guilt - Being made to think that the abuse is their fault, that they have the problem.
  
• Not Being Believed - A strong fear that nobody will believe them if they speak out against the abuse.
  
• Thinking They Can Change Them - The belief that over time the woman can change the abusive partner.
  
• Low Self-Esteem - After being in an abusive relationship there is a feeling that they can do no better than their current relationship.
  
• Being Alone - To end the relationship could mean a loss of mutual friends, relatives and others associated with the relationship.
  
• Financial - Money, children and no place to go also hold women in these relationships.
  

 

For me it was because I came from a broken home and missed having my father in my life. I didn't have a male role model or the love from my father. I didn't want my son to have the same experience. I wanted him to have both parents. I also had issues with being alone, financial, hope he would change, he made promises, he blamed me for his behavior because he made me think i was the one at fault.

There is miraid of reasons.

 

I think HCG wants so badly to believe that he is a good guy and wouldn't hurt her or do anything wrong against her.

 

I read this thread and I think he is drugging her and I believe that he is video taping her in sexual poses and possibly sex acts.. My gutt tells me so.

 

She is being nieve and it will come back to bit her in the ass if she doesn't wake up.. I would bet he is making money off of her without her even knowing it.

[Mz. Pixie]

It's really mean for her to post this and get everyone concerned and then not check back in immediately, if this is what in fact she's doing.

 

My first thought was that he got back with her to videotape her having sex with him or other men to blackmail her for money, because he knows she has it. Or either he's selling that stuff on the internet.

 

HCG- you or someone you love is going to be viewing you on the internet. This is serious sxht. Seriously, you cannot be this naive. I echo the other poster who said wake up.

 

You have got to get some help with this, go to the police!!!

[catgirl1927]

I agree abuse is not attractive but it is what the abuse represents that is attractive to these women. How else would you explain them not leaving or leaving and then repeated going back for more? There is no chain keeping these women from physically leaving the house. There is no rhyme or reason to this, it's totally irrational.

 

Yeah, that's it. There's no chain. Of course, if he threatens to kill your pet or your kids, that's not a rational reason to stay, is it? And the cops are OH so helpful. They feel exactly the way you do. Bitch probably deserves it, right? Sometimes your trolling is funny. Sometimes not.

[TheSwordfish]

Haven't posted in this thread again, because I feel we are speculating to much. I figured it would be better to just wait for the OP's next post. We're all waiting for her to say something about this aren't we? We are all concerned, but if we don't hear from her, then we don't have a clue what is up.

[jerbear]

A thought just came to my mind, she has her own business and this is a potential form of blackmail to keep her in line later on. She has more to lose than he does.

 

If she tries to leave, he will use the pictures/videos against her.

 

She is digging herself deeper, deeper, and deeper without knowing it. Losing girl friends, allies, male friends, etc...

 

I feel she is not strong enough to handle leaving him let along her "business reputation".

[roxy_1980]

But if the pics did ever surface, she could easily get her reputation back by suing him and having him charged for drugging her. It would be evidence of his sick crime. I don't think he'd risk that. He'd go to prison for his own stupidity.