Anonymous Posted March 17 Posted March 17 To give a quick summary: I’m 31 and have never had a girlfriend or been past a first date besides two first days around 8-10 years ago. Most of my 20s I’ve been obese and I spent the last 2-3 years losing the weight. Now I realize that I have loose neck skin and a weak jaw and after consulting with a few offices, the best method seems to be a sliding genioplasty (8-10mm forward). The price is around $8,000 but it’s something I’m willing to do after trying everything else. I don’t think I have bad social skills because anytime I’m let go from a job, I found a new one in 2-3 months of applying and I do pretty well in interviews, even those where I get rejected due to not having certain skills/experience. The fact that is so brutal is that people cannot look past my double chin and weak jaw. Whenever I’m in a social setting and I see a woman who I find attractive, I look for 1-2 second but she never looks back or smiles. I ask questions like “how’s your week/day” and they just say “good” but never ask me the reverse or get to know me. On the positive, I know that people will treat me much better and that will make me more confident, which translates to better romantic/professional opportunities. The thing with confidence is that it’s not some cheap quote from Disney or “coming from who you are” BS. Confidence is a byproduct of success and positive life experiences. I can’t delude myself into thinking I’m worth more than my failures and think I’m attractive when I’m not. Quote
Gebidozo Posted March 17 Posted March 17 52 minutes ago, Anonymous said: I see a woman who I find attractive Question: what type of women do you find unattractive? 1 Quote
FredEire Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Get the surgery if its important to you. Im absolutely not on board with "Its just looks bro, get over it". It does have an effect. That being said it matters way more if you are self conscious about it. I had a friend who had a bad cross-eye, very obvious as soon as you met him. But he obviously didnt care about it and after I while I just forgot he had it, I assume he had the same attitude. He was very successful with women, but I think its a good bet if he was constantly thinking "maybe this woman won't like me because I have a cross-eye", he wouldn't have been anywhere near as successful. Get the surgery to put your mind at rest, then forget about it and start life as a new chapter. You're at a good age to start laying positive foundations for the rest of your life. 1 Quote
introverted1 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago On 3/17/2026 at 8:45 AM, Anonymous said: I don’t think I have bad social skills because anytime I’m let go from a job, I found a new one in 2-3 months of applying How many jobs have you been let go from? What is your line of work? The fact that you're implying you've been let go from multiple jobs suggests that there is indeed something wrong with your attitude or that you are in some very unusual line of work in which regular layoff are the norm. 1 Quote
Els Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago What exactly is a weak jaw...? What social settings are you talking to these women in? Are you attending meetups and social events, or are you literally chatting up strangers who are trying to buy their groceries? Quote
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