basil67 Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, SummerDreams said: Hehe I don't even know why talk about this matter since it's known that sex is No 1 issue for men. It's their main course, everything else they can manage without. I assume you're joking. Or else, you don't understand men. 2
alphamale Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, K.K. said: What do you look for in a woman? a sense of humour....but finding that quality in a female is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
chillii Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 l've always known her when l see her don't need lists. She's rare but when she's popped up , can't miss her. But just being really into each other in all sorts of ways , just into each other, is the most important thing to me. lf your just into each other you love it all. Talking listening loving fun just being with each other watching each other all of it. Just yesterday l'm chuckling to myself watching her she was just standing doin something in her pj's , back to me. Her hair and head are just her , her personality , who she is, it's all in there , funny, but that's what l thought. Her little shoulders are soooo feminine , again it's just all her, her small waste and little round ass, the way she was kinda wobbling a bit doing what she was doing messin about with something or other. lt's all her , just who she is. When you watch your partner and literally see who she is , all the things you love inside and out, that's how it should feel. Then your truly just into her and each other when they can do the same. But l love feminine and very certain looks, classic personality, depths to the ends of the earth and soul and on and on it could go. 1
Author K.K. Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, chillii said: l've always known her when l see her don't need lists. She's rare but when she's popped up , can't miss her. But just being really into each other in all sorts of ways , just into each other, is the most important thing to me. lf your just into each other you love it all. Talking listening loving fun just being with each other watching each other all of it. Just yesterday l'm chuckling to myself watching her she was just standing doin something in her pj's , back to me. Her hair and head are just her , her personality , who she is, it's all in there , funny, but that's what l thought. Her little shoulders are soooo feminine , again it's just all her, her small waste and little round ass, the way she was kinda wobbling a bit doing what she was doing messin about with something or other. lt's all her , just who she is. When you watch your partner and literally see who she is , all the things you love inside and out, that's how it should feel. Then your truly just into her and each other when they can do the same. But l love feminine and very certain looks, classic personality, depths to the ends of the earth and soul and on and on it could go. Aww see that’s really sweet!
basil67 Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, alphamale said: a sense of humour....but finding that quality in a female is like trying to find a needle in a haystack Because sense of humour is subjective. Hubby cracked a joke the other day which I appreciated and he said that nobody else would have laughed. And nobody would call me funny, but I make hubby laugh. Our sense of humour revolves around silliness. Singing wrong song lyrics, saying something stupid by accident, weird sounding farts. Just everyday stuff.
chillii Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, K.K. said: Aww see that’s really sweet! Well thank you ms kk 1
5x5 Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 5 hours ago, alphamale said: wtf does this mean?? please extrapolate The song ""I Want You, But I Don't Need You" as sung by Amanda Palmer (who my wife and I have seen live in concert explains it. I like you, and I’d like you to like me to like you But I don’t need you Don't need you to need me to like you Because if you didn't like me I would still like you, you see La la la La la la I lick you, and I like how you like how I lick you But I don't need you Don't need you to like me to lick you If your pleasure turned into pain I would still lick - for my personal gain La la la La la la I f*** you, and I love how you love how I f*** you But I don't f***ing need you Don't need you to need me to f*** you If you need me to need you to f*** That f***s everything up La la la La la la I want you, and I want you to want me to want you But I don't need you Don't need you to need me to need you That's just me So take me or leave me But please don't need me Don't need me to need you to need me Cos’ we're here one minute, the next we're dead So love me or leave me But try not to need me Enough said I want you, but I don't need you I love you, and I love how you love how I love you But I don't need you Don't need you to need me to love you If your love turned into hate Would my love have been a mistake? I don’t know I don’t know So I'm gonna leave you And I'd like you to leave me to leave you But lover believe me, it isn't because I don't need you (You know I don't need you) All I wanted was to be wanted But you're drowning me deep in your need to be needed La la la La la la I want you, and I want you to want me to want you But I don't need you Don't need you to need me to need you That's just me So take me or leave me But please don't need me Don't need me to need you to need me Cos’ we're here one minute, the next we're dead So love me or leave me But try not to need me Enough said I want you, but I don't need you
mark clemson Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ruby Slippers said: My boyfriend and I had this conversation recently. So you are back together (just curious, you don't have to answer if you don't wish)?
Author K.K. Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 3 hours ago, mark clemson said: **rather subjective in my case [on them being pretty enough] Let me ask you something. Ok, what do you mean by this? Do you have a certain something that attracts you to someone that isn’t conventionally pretty but others may not find ‘pretty’ at all and that’s why you call it “subjective”? Also, which do you find is most attractive? Pretty, Cute, or Sexy? I find sexy the most attractive in a woman. I’ve seen beautiful women with absolutely no sex appeal whatsoever. I’ve seen cute little things with every bit of sexy. And then I’ve seen sexy that is neither cute nor pretty but smokkkkin hot in the right setting. Which is usually after a few bong hits. You?
Ruby Slippers Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, mark clemson said: So you are back together (just curious, you don't have to answer if you don't wish)? Yes. I've written about it in other threads. All is well so far. Hard to keep up, I know 1
mark clemson Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, K.K. said: Ok, what do you mean by this? Do you have a certain something that attracts you to someone that isn’t conventionally pretty but others may not find ‘pretty’ at all and that’s why you call it “subjective”? Well, I said that because sometimes I'm not that attracted to conventionally beautiful women (e.g. Heidi Klum - she is (was) a supermodel but is just "ok" to me). And sometimes I'm quite attracted to women who aren't that "pretty" but are attractive otherwise. I agree it's a "certain something" but it's probably not just one something, probably either a few different features or a convergence of features that = "enough". For example a woman might be a bit overweight but have a pretty face, or "carry it well", or be very nice/interested in me, and so I become attracted even though she's not conventionally pretty. Or her face might not be that pretty, but she has a great body and we get along really well, etc. It's tough for me to put my finger on, actually. 11 minutes ago, K.K. said: I find sexy the most attractive in a woman. For the short term, absolutely. For the mid to long term, other things will come into play. I'm past the age where sexy can hold me for too long if there are other issues (e.g. personality, "life not together", or similar). It becomes a matter of "is she a good partner for me". 11 minutes ago, K.K. said: Which is usually after a few bong hits. Haha. It's been a very long time since I've done any of that, but I agree it helped make women more attractive. Food and artwork too, haha. 1
Author K.K. Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 @mark clemson I agree with all that you said. Thanks. 1
alphamale Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, 5x5 said: The song ""I Want You, But I Don't Need You" as sung by Amanda Palmer (who my wife and I have seen live in concert explains it. 1
Author K.K. Posted March 27, 2020 Author Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, alphamale said: Haha. I agree. I know it’s not the “healthy” way to love. But I want us to need each other like the.freaking.air.that.we.breathe. 1
Azincourt Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, basil67 said: The guys who can’t find a girlfriend or just want casual sex will answer with this. The guys who want a relationship (and have the skill set to get a relationship) will ask for something more substantial. And who exactly defines what a relationship is? A relationship can be a friends with benefits steady arrangment that happens a few times a month. A relationship can be hooking up, on and off, with someone who is a regular part of your life, someone who isn't in love with you, and someone you aren't in love with, but the sex is good and it happens a few times when both are single and only looking for sex. Sex with someone who actually cares about you getting off is a lot better than sex with a random stranger. A relationship can be polygamous. You guys have an emotional connection, the sex is good, but you want variety in your sex lives, so you bring in someone to join the relationship, or you keep it apart from your main relationship. A relationship can be many different things and have many different meanings. A relationship isn't necessary about being long-term, co-habitation, or marriage. Yeah, a man needs to work hard and develop himself deeply as a human being to attain the skillset to get a relationship. Have a job, have a full head of hair, take a shower, hit the gym, and don't be socially stunted. Pretty hard requirements for most men to fulfill. I reckon only about 10 in a 100 men will ever manage to enter a romantic relationship. As for myself, I've been in long-term relationships(3 months) so it's not like I detest relationships, it's that I'm too busy making money and building a comfortable future to have the time to get in one. Since I'm only interested in short-term relationships, I'm not picky. 18-22, 5'10'', 130lbs, long, thick hair, straight white teeth, and classicaly ''pretty ''. Basically the average woman in these parts. Edited March 27, 2020 by Azincourt
basil67 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, Azincourt said: And who exactly defines what a relationship is? In common parlance, the word 'relationship' when used without a further descriptor (FWB, Casual, Poly) is a committed relationship between two people. Taking it further, a lot of people don't even use the word relationship if it's not committed. They simply use the terms such as FWB or Casual. Most would not say "we are in a relationship" to their FWB because it would cause all kinds of confusion.
Woggle Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 A women who is faithful and honest Somebody who doesn't have a gender war type of view towards relationships and actually likes men Somebody who is serious about commitment and building a life together instead of just chasing butterflies
Caauug Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 19 hours ago, basil67 said: Could it be that women don't care too much for the answer? I think this is the correct answer. You can make your wish list as long as you want but if she doesn't feel the need to read it, your wants will not matter. Remember what you were told when you were growing up: Except her for who she is..... "Why can he not except me the way I am?" She says..... 10 hours ago, mark clemson said: Doesn't expect me to support her fully financially It's not an extremely tall order IMO. It is a very tall order in some cases!!!!!! 8 hours ago, Ruby Slippers said: My boyfriend and I had this conversation recently. He said the must-haves for him are: A self-sufficient partner who doesn't need to lean on him as a financial caretaker, unless we're lucky enough to have kids - he said it's not so much about the money, but he doesn't respect women who are lazy, have no ambition and competence, would have no interest in a girlfriend like that and be embarrassed to introduce her to anyone. I agree with these two quotes. Some women or should I say most I have ever met, be them friends and wives of friends want go into retirement once married or into a LTR, kids or no kids. A few problems with this I have found: Too much idle time, one income may mean the other partner will have to work longer hours to make ends meet. This leads the idle partner more time to look around for someone else. (Hypergamy) This happens a lot where the husband works away, FIFO mines in this part of the world. I have also noticed when not working and earning money, people loose the sense of value of money over time. Male and female.... This can lead to uncontrolled spending, and a greater load on the one working to keep up with expenses. This also leads to a loss of respect for what the working partner is doing. IE: "He never helps with the house work or the kids!!" Meanwhile he spends 12hrs of the day at a physically demanding job to come home to house in ruin to make his own dinner and pack his lunch for the next day.... Family responsibilities should be shared? Yes he is, when he spends his time working to support the family financially. You want to retire early and have me support you? Then you don't want me in your life!!! It is not number one but it is a deal breaker. 1
SummerDreams Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 As an early observation, men in this thread focus on two things; sex and money. Let's compare it to what women focused on in their thread... I'm so lucky I have a good man who doesn't think like some of the above posters because if I hadn't found him, I would probably get depression with what I read here.
amaysngrace Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 everyone wants the x-factor, only few exude it though
basil67 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, Caauug said: I think this is the correct answer. You can make your wish list as long as you want but if she doesn't feel the need to read it, your wants will not matter. Remember what you were told when you were growing up: Except her for who she is..... "Why can he not except me the way I am?" She says..... I've never heard this saying - that could be because I'm female. I have also never wondered why he can't accept me the way I am because I realise that we shouldn't have to put up with traits which don't work well with ours. Hence my suggestion that women may not be interested in the answer.
basil67 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, amaysngrace said: everyone wants the x-factor, only few exude it though I disagree. I think that most people are realistic.
basil67 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, SummerDreams said: As an early observation, men in this thread focus on two things; sex and money. Let's compare it to what women focused on in their thread... I'm so lucky I have a good man who doesn't think like some of the above posters because if I hadn't found him, I would probably get depression with what I read here. I think you're confusing this thread for another. I've read a number of really thoughtful replies here about many different kinds of things which men appreciate in a woman.
amaysngrace Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, basil67 said: I disagree. I think that most people are realistic. What’s that suppose to mean basil? most don’t want it or most do have it?
Mysterio Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 I desire Interesting Conversations and Laughs mixed with Physical affection. Also doing Social and Recreational activities. So broken down. I want the woman and I to always be able to talk about lots of topics. There is Humor spliced into that. We also get off on being affectionate with each other. Kissing/Making out and making love. Not crazy all over the place groping each other in public. Like giving each other massages. Kissing each other all over and lots of making out/making love when we are alone at each others places.
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