Jacques on stage Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Not sure I agree there. Here's my stats.... Height 5'3" Weight 52kgs Body fat 16% Body build - slender athletic, good muscle tone but not ripped, shapely and feminine. Not a body builder despite the low body fat %. Look great in a bikini, no cellulite, shapely and proportioned. Think dancers body minus the huge calves. Dress Size US 2-4, UK6, AU6 Bust size E cup Body type - hourglass, bust 90cm, waist 59cm, hip 88cm Hair style - waist length, natural honey blonde with S wave Facial features - I rate my face realistically with no makeup about a 6, fully made up maybe an 8. I've never been swamped with offers and I'm always made up (natural look) when I'm out. . :roll eyes: It's not that easy. So in one post you're average bordering ugly. In another your face is a 6-8. That makes no sense.
Buddhist Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) So in one post you're average bordering ugly. In another your face is a 6-8. That makes no sense. I rate a 6 as average, ugly if I'm not your cup of tea because I have a very particular look that could strike some as ugly, others as appealing. I'm not classically pretty. I have very large eyes which isn't universally attractive actually. Many models and acclaimed beauties actually have small eyes as a proportion of their face. The 8 is only made up and only a 'maybe'. I rate an 8 as being attractive, not model quality or anything like that. Most women look very different made up versus bare. That's the magic of cosmetics. It makes sense to me. Edited April 27, 2016 by Buddhist 1
Leigh 87 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I rate a 6 as average, ugly if I'm not your cup of tea because I have a very particular look that could strike some as ugly, others as appealing. I'm not classically pretty. I have very large eyes which isn't universally attractive actually. Many models and acclaimed beauties actually have small eyes as a proportion of their face. The 8 is only made up and only a 'maybe'. I rate an 8 as being attractive, not model quality or anything like that. Most women look very different made up versus bare. That's the magic of cosmetics. It makes sense to me. I rate myself the same as you. Only I have a nice shapedbut very average weight on me..... so my body is not banging like yours! Yet I still get a lot of attention? Why is that? I am not classically pretty but a lot more men and women tell me I am attractive than the 100% plain Janes I have ever known. Large eyes are classicaly pretty IMO..... Large eyes and a small nose together = classic beauty on my honest opinion.
Emilia Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 In my experience, most men think that they are much better looking than they are. Even below average men only try to ask out women that are pretty. Average looking men will only put in the effort for a stunning woman. Sure, they may end up with someone different but then the woman has to have a "sparkling personality" and do some form of pursual. For men, that primal urge to pursue and make the moves only kicks in for a woman that's few levels above him on the looks scale (yes there is a looks scale). This reminds me of this single guy I know that's around my age. He is short, chubby with an average face. He often complains about being single. He is smart and funny so I would have dated him if he tried to ask me out. He spent the entire time I have known him desperately chasing this 23 year old girl that looks like a model. Whenever she rejects him he would always complain to me about how "nice guys always finish last" This has been a common experience to me. I always wonder how many dateless guys that post on here go about their life ignoring girls that are similar attractiveness to them. "No women would date me"="No hot women would date me" Agree. but then male sexuality has a lot to do with competition. Competing with each other in terms the of the type of women they attract. Young pretty one gets the highest marks, obviously. Men tease each other about the type of women they go for and land. I don't think attractiveness is that subjective even with different tastes. I think when someone is insecure, it won't be just about the opposite sex but about his/her own social status with their peers too. I've been wondering about something similar all day. Went out Saturday night. Met this girl. Was talking to her afterwards and she claimed she didn't believe I was single. To just "tell her the truth". I asked her why she didn't believe me and her exact words were "you are handsome, charming, sexy and know how to treat a lady". I've been thinking about that since. Wondering if she was telling the truth. Or just blowing smoke. I figure it doesn't matter either way. It's like worrying about your penis size. Do the best you can with what you have and not worry about how you compare to others. She picked up on your skills with women. I'd say it wasn't a compliment as such but she could tell that you were well practiced and she didn't trust you. She thought you lied to her about being single.
Leigh 87 Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Agree. but then male sexuality has a lot to do with competition. Competing with each other in terms the of the type of women they attract. Young pretty one gets the highest marks, obviously. Men tease each other about the type of women they go for and land. I don't think attractiveness is that subjective even with different tastes. I think when someone is insecure, it won't be just about the opposite sex but about his/her own social status with their peers too. She picked up on your skills with women. I'd say it wasn't a compliment as such but she could tell that you were well practiced and she didn't trust you. She thought you lied to her about being single. If looks aren't subjective then explain this: my ex andhis friends all made fun of me. They said he was too good for a girl like me. He wasn't Brad Pitt. He was cute but by no means a movie start heartthrob. Then another guy I dated thought I was honestly drop dead gorgeous and his friends agreed. So how come one of my exes AND ALL HIS FRIENDS describe be as " a hot body on an ugly head" when so many other guys have found me attractive? Clearly the fact that I was not one man and his friends cup of tea didn't preclude me from having a very healthy number of admirers ( and no, not merely men who wanted to shag me. I've received a lot of honest compliments from men and women young and old) Just because one group of people think that you're a plane Jane that doesn't mean that a lot. .a good number of men won't find you very attractive.
Jacques on stage Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Agreed, with online dating, it seems people are expecting to have someone bring more to the table, physically, than they themselves are able. For example, I know this one man, he's a fit, marathon runner...some woman has a thing for him, but kind of heavy set. He's rakin' in the hotties left and right, so he has options. She's got a cute face, pretty eyes, so I put her in the average/girl next door category. To be honest, I kind of liked her, but she wasn't interested in me..., but apparently she was chasin' after him...but it's interesting to see she doesn't see it herself. She doesn't pursue her own equal in looks. In fact, she's gained some weight since I last saw her on an online dating site (saw her later in person at a couple of Meetups). Know your limits in looks, you can try to swing for the stands, but best to stick to your equals in appearance. I'm mid-to-late thirties (actually EXACTLY so - I'm 37 and a half today) and I find it much easier with attractive mid-twenties women. Average-looking women my own age are the most lookist people I know. They all will settle for nothing less than an 8-10. I'll stick to the younger ladies.
Jacques on stage Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) IME a lot of men rate themselves as more attractive than they really are and as such pursue women who are more attractive than them. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. Put a picture of yourself next to a woman you find attractive and ask your self if the pairing makes sense. You all know what I'm talking about. Well I can't speak for other men in OLD terms. But the women on OLD that I come across certainly rate themselves MUCH higher than they are. Also, I see a lot of them around the town centre, and nearly all of them look about 4 dress sizes bigger than on their profile. Edited April 27, 2016 by Jacques on stage
hasaquestion Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I'd say I'm average. When I was younger and had hair I was higher up the scale. I think you usually have an idea where you stand, if you need to think about whether or not you are _______ for even a second you probably aren't that. Hot comes with a certain amount of attention, for example. Hard to miss. Physically I'm 5'10", 163 lbs right now. 30" around the waist and 38" around the shoulders, don't know my BF% but it's got to be extremely low, it was 7.5% when I was in college and did track, and while I've bulked up a lot I haven't gotten that much chubbier. I'm definitely too slender for some, lots of women prefer girthy and some flab to performance lean. I'd say my body is a 6 or a 7 since I'm not taller or meatier. Facewise I'm tan with huge eyes. I shave my head. I wear glasses sometimes, and contacts sometimes. Contrary to their reputation, glasses do seem to flatter me more, so long as they are fashionable ones . I'd say I have good facial structure but the combo of big feminine eyes and not having any hair is pretty ridiculous. Probably a 4 there? I think how you present yourself makes a big difference. If I wear a hoodie and high top sneakers I look like an adult dressed as a kid. If I go with menswear I look like a really young dude who's going places. If I look like a kid then my type A-ness gets interpreted as rudeness. if I dress more grown-up then it gets interpreted as maturity or drive. One ought to present themselves in a way that highlights strengths and hides weaknesses.
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