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Wa wa wa ...that's why God gave you more muscle ...you are the hunters ...go hunting. Man up. Close the deal. If you're a decent guy ...well spoken ...take charge ...kind ...a bit of humor /light flirting ...you're going to get dates. Maybe you need to take a sales course in closing the deal?

 

I have a pretty active dating life. Or at least had. Since I moved to a new state things have been a little slow. Still get at least one or two new numbers every week though. The problem comes when about 50% of those flake out.

 

But what about those guys who aren't the "take charge" sort? Girls can have pretty much any kind of personality and still get tons of offers.

 

BTW, i'm not bitching about having things hard as a guy, so much as girls thinking they have things just as hard in the dating world.

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what type is that?

 

good looking, tall, has some ca$h in his pocket

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I have a pretty active dating life. Or at least had. Since I moved to a new state things have been a little slow. Still get at least one or two new numbers every week though. The problem comes when about 50% of those flake out.

 

But what about those guys who aren't the "take charge" sort? Girls can have pretty much any kind of personality and still get tons of offers.

 

BTW, i'm not bitching about having things hard as a guy, so much as girls thinking they have things just as hard in the dating world.

 

The girls get offers because guys are the take charge hunters ...and men are programmed to spread their DNA as far and wide as possible. Woman aren't like that as a whole. We sit back and gather.

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So here it is:

 

Statistically speaking a woman will have an easier time getting "a date."

 

That is the reality.

 

It is very possible that this is unfair. And that it isn't going to change.

 

So....what?

 

I would like for the grass to be purple. I really like purple. It isn't going to be purple. Will my lamenting and being angry at the grass make it more purple?

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The girls get offers because guys are the take charge hunters ...and men are programmed to spread their DNA as far and wide as possible. Woman aren't like that as a whole. We sit back and gather.

 

I agree with you. Though I think you just made some enemies with any feminists on here. lol

 

I'm fine with doing the approaching. I just wish girls who are interested would take some active steps to show their interest. I've had a few girls who I dated for a while who showed zero interest, yet told me they had crushes on me for a while. Girls don't get to bitch about not finding decent guys if they put in zero effort.

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Genuinly desirable men and women get dates without OLD.

 

Most attractive women with good style I know didn't meet their partners online.

 

Life is full of variations. Some women find the loves of their lives without looking and without OLD. Conversely, there are men who not only can't find women in real life, but who send hundreds of messages per week without a single reply.

 

It'd brutal but if you want dates and you're not the type to just meet people in social settings and online doesn't yield any results, then your just not desirable enough to get the outcome you want. Hit the gym, gp back to school, be the type of man that gets the dates.

 

The OP started in her previous thread that she was a fashion model. So duh, obviously it's easy for HER to get dates....... It amazes me that she is perplexed that some people are genuinely not desirable enough to attract people for dates....... Like hello, not everyone hit the genetic lotto like you!

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I agree with you. Though I think you just made some enemies with any feminists on here. lol

 

I'm fine with doing the approaching. I just wish girls who are interested would take some active steps to show their interest. I've had a few girls who I dated for a while who showed zero interest, yet told me they had crushes on me for a while. Girls don't get to bitch about not finding decent guys if they put in zero effort.

 

If the girls showed little interest ...uh goodbye and her loss. Apathy gets one nowhere in life ...do you want an apathetic gf? Go for the alpha female who let's you know she appreciates your manly DNA but also has a bit of a demure side. You deserve better so act accordingly.

 

Maybe I upset a few feminists lol. I'm a feminist (actually a Type A) ...but I'm also a realist. That's a Gemini for ya:)

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OLD is it's own thing. Any guy who has problems finding dates online should stop using OLD. The only thing it is going to do is make you feel worse. That's because the women online have grown exceedingly shallow. I guess I can't blame them in a way, when they are fielding messages all night from guys who are better looking, or have more to offer than they do. They haven't quite caught on that when those guys message them they are just looking for easy sex, which they generally give, because the guy is better looking than they are. Unfortunately, for a woman looking for a real relationship, she won't find it. And any guys looking for a real relationship are probably out of luck as well. I cancelled all of my OLD profiles and focused more on talking to people in the real world, and immediately my luck started turning around.

 

The men I met online, decent men with normal jobs and nothing wrong with their appearance ( some were very cute), they were so dejected from getting turned down by average girls thst they thought they hit jackpot with me ( I above average but no beauty either)

 

The guys I acted into genuinly thought they were so lucky..... In reality, I was just a cute girl asking to see them again. I am not a gorgeous girl but the constant rejection from average girls made me appear to be a lot better than I KNOW I really am.

 

It's rarher sad that a merely cute girl like myself is treated like they're gorgeous babes just because average women have so many options thst they now think they are better than they truly are.

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If the girls showed little interest ...uh goodbye and her loss. Apathy gets one nowhere in life ...do you want an apathetic gf? Go for the alpha female who let's you know she appreciates your manly DNA but also has a bit of a demure side. You deserve better so act accordingly.

 

Maybe I upset a few feminists lol. I'm a feminist (actually a Type A) ...but I'm also a realist. That's a Gemini for ya:)

 

I am always drawn to Gemini men:( very incompatible but the chemistry is always sky high!

 

The ease with which you get dates and other women get dates is still above that if the options men have. You had four dates this week? Wow. Exhausting?

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I agree with you. Though I think you just made some enemies with any feminists on here. lol

 

I'm fine with doing the approaching. I just wish girls who are interested would take some active steps to show their interest. I've had a few girls who I dated for a while who showed zero interest, yet told me they had crushes on me for a while. Girls don't get to bitch about not finding decent guys if they put in zero effort.

 

You're in TX now so you might find girls are a bit more traditional. So do all the proper stuff Revan:). Ask a girl on a date on the phone ...not txt.. walking up to the door ...paying for the date (if she orders lobster no second date!) ...pull the car up to the door if it's cold after you eat ... Open the door for her. Hopefully you had parents that told you all this stuff. I tell my boys now and they're just starting to date. I also told them that if a girl disrespects what you have to offer ...no more dates and you've basically lost nothing ...cause you won't be bringing them home to me lol

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I am always drawn to Gemini men:( very incompatible but the chemistry is always sky high!

 

The ease with which you get dates and other women get dates is still above that if the options men have. You had four dates this week? Wow. Exhausting?

 

Well us geminis have lots of energy :)

 

Maybe woman get dates at a higher ratio ... who are all these woman going out with ...the same men? Maybe. Ok I've got to get ready for my date.

 

Leigh ...what sign are you?

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Well us geminis have lots of energy :)

 

Maybe woman get dates at a higher ratio ... who are all these woman going out with ...the same men? Maybe. Ok I've got to get ready for my date.

 

Leigh ...what sign are you?

 

Capricorn. Dead in the middle of my sign also. It's only a sun sign don't forget so it's not always very accurate without a propper birth chart.... I My boyfriend is Virgo and we are super compatible and have great chemistry.

 

I've heard that men have an easier tkme dating as they age...they can get 20 s woman in addition to women they're age or above....where as women tend to age faster than men and are limited to men who have a fettish for older women..... Because men their own age prefer women 20 years younger........

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If the girls showed little interest ...uh goodbye and her loss. Apathy gets one nowhere in life ...do you want an apathetic gf? Go for the alpha female who let's you know she appreciates your manly DNA but also has a bit of a demure side. You deserve better so act accordingly.

 

Maybe I upset a few feminists lol. I'm a feminist (actually a Type A) ...but I'm also a realist. That's a Gemini for ya:)

 

Those are some of the best girls i've ever dated though. They are the one's who haven't slept around and don't go around flirting with tons of guys.

 

Am I defending the apathetic type now? Jeez maybe I don't know what I want. lol

 

You're in TX now so you might find girls are a bit more traditional. So do all the proper stuff Revan:). Ask a girl on a date on the phone ...not txt.. walking up to the door ...paying for the date (if she orders lobster no second date!) ...pull the car up to the door if it's cold after you eat ... Open the door for her. Hopefully you had parents that told you all this stuff. I tell my boys now and they're just starting to date. I also told them that if a girl disrespects what you have to offer ...no more dates and you've basically lost nothing ...cause you won't be bringing them home to me lol

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure I lost out on my soulmate already just because I didn't walk up to her door and say hi to her mother on our first date. lol Been trying to be extra gentlemanly since then.

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To be honest, you're better looking than you let on. I have seen your pics. That has something to do with why so many guys act surprised when you are more down to Earth than your contemporaries.

 

That's very sweet, but I've been majorly insulted by men I've turned down.....

 

Some men online who I didn't feel a spark with ended up abusing me verbally.

 

Some told me that I was ugly and not attractive to any guys.

 

I had one-man tell me he would post lingerie pics of me online. He said that he was sick of 6/10s acting like they were Gods. He thought I had some audacity for rejecting him because apparently he didn't think I was hot enough to be fussy:sick:

 

Men are exceedingly bitter and awful. I stopped online dating. Found a wonderful boyfriend in real life.

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I've heard that men have an easier tkme dating as they age...they can get 20 s woman in addition to women they're age or above....where as women tend to age faster than men and are limited to men who have a fettish for older women..... Because men their own age prefer women 20 years younger........

 

Where in the world do you get the idea that "women tend to age faster than men?" If they actually aged "faster," they probably wouldn't live longer.

 

Some men do prefer "20 years younger" women. Those aren't the men for you. I look for partners who have a similar level of life experience, generally. I'm not looking to be anyone's trophy, or to find one myself. If someone has a fetish for youngsters because they can't accept their own aging or mortality or whatever, that's on them - it has nothing to do with me and I don't want them anyway.

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Male here.

 

I've been on plenty of dates. In that sense, online dating has worked pretty well for me, but it still has its problems.

 

Based on where I'm at in terms of location and job, my chances of meeting good people are a lot lower than when I was in college, etc. In your 30's most people are married, in relationships, etc--so it lets you know exactly who's single.

 

I've been on plenty of dates. If a woman messages me first, it's a sure shot. If I message of them first, they're way more likely to flake, etc. About 80% of women simply don't look as good as their pictures. If I meet a women in real life, I know if I'm really attracted to her. Online, you never know. I get my hopes up and once I meet them the conversation may be great, etc, but it doesn't change the fact that they're just not someone that would've normally caught my eye. I've had a couple that actually looked way better than their pics--thought they were average or so and then they turned out to be gorgeous. Of course those are the ones I never hear back from even if it goes well, haha.

 

OKC has been good for meeting people for relationships. I've never tried match, but am considering it because it's more relationship focused---problem is the paying thing. Tinder has tons of attractive, educated women but the type of person on there tends to have a bit of a "grass is always greener" syndrome and probably isn't trying for anything too serious at the moment.

 

I'm living in temporary location for work for a couple months. I've used Tinder a bit to meet people (since I don't know anyone) and have been on four dates so far and am going on two more next week. The first three went well, but I wasn't really feeling it afterwards. The last one went great and the woman was someone I'd really like to get to know better but she flaked on our second meeting (of course). The date went great but I couldn't help but notice her phone blowing up nonstop the whole time (she was polite and put it away quickly). We still talk, but I always initiate. She's gorgeous, educated/ambitious, cool job, well-off family so I'm sure there are 15 dudes relentlessly stalking her right now until she's locked down again. Ha. That's life I guess.

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Tinder makes it extremely easy to get dates.

 

Men who have jobs, don't live at home and have a pleasant personality and aren't awful looking gets loads of dates.

 

All you have to do is swipe left or right. If you're at least average looking and have good style and a genuine smile, you will get women who also swipe you. That's so easy. In the comfort of your own home, you can get dates.

 

For men who cannot get dates, it's either the area in which you live, your unrealistic expectations in women ot the sad fact that you're just not what the majority of women find appealing.

 

Average looking folks in an area with plenty of single women will get dates online, providing they're confident and enjoy cultivating their own identity ( having a zest for some thjngs in life, an affable personality even introverts can learn how to get along well with most people)

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Well thanks for the giggle. I'd take that bet for $1M and you'd be a check writer. Why? Because as a woman I know what woman want and desire.

 

I think you are misuderstanding the proposition. You would have to compete with all the other women over us guys, who would be inundated with offers and able to be very very fussy. Knowing what women desire wont help you much.

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I had one-man tell me he would post lingerie pics of me online. He said that he was sick of 6/10s acting like they were Gods. He thought I had some audacity for rejecting him because apparently he didn't think I was hot enough to be fussy:sick:

 

 

Why do these 6/10s or "average" looking girls so popular that they have this spoiled attitude?

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It is impossible. I go months in between dates. I'm on 3 different dating websites and talk to women in real life when afforded the opportunity. I've been single for nearly 3 years. I'm a good looking guy with a good job. I go crazy thinking about it and the harder I try to meet new women the harder I fail.

 

 

I've been single for nearly 3 years as well. About to graduate from a medical program, I do crossfit, and Bible Study, and volunteer in my free time. People are so hard to read I feel like. I dislike online dating. I signed up for an account then deleted when I saw what it was like shortly after. Sometimes it is just the area as well. Sucks the people on Loveshack who are single cannot get together and what not. Real world and OLD are just two different beasts.

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OLD is it's own thing. Any guy who has problems finding dates online should stop using OLD. The only thing it is going to do is make you feel worse. That's because the women online have grown exceedingly shallow. I guess I can't blame them in a way, when they are fielding messages all night from guys who are better looking, or have more to offer than they do. They haven't quite caught on that when those guys message them they are just looking for easy sex, which they generally give, because the guy is better looking than they are. Unfortunately, for a woman looking for a real relationship, she won't find it. And any guys looking for a real relationship are probably out of luck as well. I cancelled all of my OLD profiles and focused more on talking to people in the real world, and immediately my luck started turning around.

 

I was getting a bit down using traditional OLD. I couldnt believe how badly i was doing. I think part of it was im a bit older.

So i focused more on real life, which is so much better. I do use tinder a bit, for some reason i do ok ish there.

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S5C

 

Ya know I hear guys lament about this and all I can say is maybe you're a 5 ...think you're a 10 ...and only message girls who are 9-10s?

 

Thank you for proving to me that women are on there rating people on their looks in a 1-10 scale and responding according to that rating. Shallow. The most attractive people I've ever known are hollow in between their ears.

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Geography plays a big role. A man has more opportunities in a city than a rural town. Getting a date is easy, or at least not difficult. The problem is getting a quality woman to date. That's the crux of the matter concerning men - such as myself - that are looking for a relationship. It is challenging and exhausting. So much that I'm currently taking a break from dating. Now if a man is just looking to have sex, it's purely a numbers game for such a guy.

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The most attractive people I've ever known are hollow in between their ears.

 

Why are you attracted to people like that? Sounds like a personal problem.

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Why are you attracted to people like that? Sounds like a personal problem.

 

I mean physically attractive in reference to social norms not the girls whom I am most attracted to. I find personality to be the deciding factor as I get older and looking for a true mate rather than just having fun.

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