Holy Hong Kong Girls Batman!

[SycamoreCircle]

I hooked up with a Hong Kong air traffic controller who rock climbed in her spare time. I have never touched a core like that before. She could probably crack walnuts with her abdomen.

 

From judging her and China Air flight attendants, I advise you to just cruise at the airport.:love:

[clia]

I don't know anything about the Hong Kong dating scene, but a hot young woman having video sex with a man old enough to be her father almost immediately upon chatting with him sounds suspicious to me. Just be careful. Use a condom. (A maid in Hong Kong might like to latch on to a well off Australian guy.). And meet her in a public place. If you are not hiring a hooker, there is no reason why she should be coming to your hotel room. Oh, and just because she says she's going to come alone doesn't mean she actually will be coming alone.

[string of letters]

OP: You started talking about how you wanted to avoid such and such a bar area, since it's rife with prostitution, then you started talking about the ladies you are meeting on these websites. Do you really think these are mutually exclusive categories?!

 

Elaine567 wisely asked whether scammers have 'scammmer' tattooed on their foreheads, but I'll also take this a little further and mention that there a huge amount of grey area regarding prostitution in this part of the world. You may perhaps think of 'prostitutes' and 'non-prostitutes' as distinct categories, but I'm afraid it's often not so easy. The 'prostitutes' you claim to be shunning often *are* domestic workers who are just picking up some extra cash on the weekend. But at what point, exactly, do they 'cross over to the other side'? A woman may play the 'lonely' card with you on the internet, but then not decide until the morning after whether she's going to ask you for money or not. Is this really the kind of thing you want to brag about on the internet?

 

You mention an imbalance between females and males in Hong Kong. I don't know about Hong Kong's overall gender ratios, but yeah, there's a surplus of women who come from the Southeast Asian countries that supply domestic workers to Hong Kong.

 

I really don't see what you get from starting this kind of thread. Anyway, "good luck" as they say.

[yxalitis]

It would be really cool if you could get one of them to post pictures from the iPhone factory!

 

That's Shenzhen in mainland China, which is where I'm going for business.

This is Hong Kong...it's an independent state, former British Colony handed back to The Chinese...

[yxalitis]

OP: You started talking about how you wanted to avoid such and such a bar area, since it's rife with prostitution, then you started talking about the ladies you are meeting on these websites. Do you really think these are mutually exclusive categories?!

 

Elaine567 wisely asked whether scammers have 'scammmer' tattooed on their foreheads, but I'll also take this a little further and mention that there a huge amount of grey area regarding prostitution in this part of the world. You may perhaps think of 'prostitutes' and 'non-prostitutes' as distinct categories, but I'm afraid it's often not so easy. The 'prostitutes' you claim to be shunning often *are* domestic workers who are just picking up some extra cash on the weekend. But at what point, exactly, do they 'cross over to the other side'? A woman may play the 'lonely' card with you on the internet, but then not decide until the morning after whether she's going to ask you for money or not. Is this really the kind of thing you want to brag about on the internet?

 

You mention an imbalance between females and males in Hong Kong. I don't know about Hong Kong's overall gender ratios, but yeah, there's a surplus of women who come from the Southeast Asian countries that supply domestic workers to Hong Kong.

 

I really don't see what you get from starting this kind of thread. Anyway, "good luck" as they say.

 

It seems you and Elaine and others simply don't believe this is possible, because is is so far from your personal experience.

If the "lonely attractive young girl quite keen to meet me" was the exception, I'd be more apprehensive, but on a grounded, carefully screened DATING website, these girls exist in their HUNDREDS.

But, nope, according to you, they are all scammers.

 

 

 

I draw the line of prostitution firmly along the ground with the words "Pay for sex" on one side.

I am not giving these girls cash, presents (Well, a soft-toy kangaroo that one asked for) or gratuities.

And they are meeting me in the hotel lobby because it's a public place they can easily find, and i can see if they "bring company"

 

I posted a simple rebuttal, which you ignored.

WHAT scam are these girls playing?

 

 

I'm not going to go anywhere with these girls that isn't public.

I'm meeting them in the lobby.

The two I am focusing on are 100% exactly who they say they are, domestic workers looking to have fun on their one day a week off. They both have to be back by 9:00pm. What, precisely are they going to do to "scam me"

Just ask me for money? I won't give them any...what are they going to do?

If they ask, I'll tell them that's not what I want, and goodbye.

 

I've done my research, I'm being careful, I'm screening the HUNDREDS of responders carefully.

Maybe they don't have "scammer" tattooed on their forehead, but I am being smart, my eyes are open to the possibility, and as I mentioned I already identified three fake profiles, which I reported and were promptly taken down (within minutes) by the website.

 

However, proof, as they say, is in the eating, I'll be reporting back my time here.

 

And finally String, I am posting this PRECISELY because people like you don't think this is real.

Edited August 13, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[joseb]

Younger Chinese girls happy to date older guys really isn't unusual.

 

I have a friend about yxalitis age and he is currently seeing a 20 something Chinese girl - no scam, weirdness or anything. She just likes him, he likes her.

[h0000]

Younger Chinese girls happy to date older guys really isn't unusual.

 

I have a friend about yxalitis age and he is currently seeing a 20 something Chinese girl - no scam, weirdness or anything. She just likes him, he likes her.

 

Does she think he is rich?

[yxalitis]

Does she think he is rich?

 

"Rich" is a relative term.

If the girl was from Guangdong, it's likely she has higher expectations of wealth, as in "Seriously rich"

But if the girl is a worker imported to work for these families from Indonesia, The Philippines, etc, simply having a professional income is "rich"

Domestic workers get around $4000 HKD a month.

[h0000]

"Rich" is a relative term.

If the girl was from Guangdong, it's likely she has higher expectations of wealth, as in "Seriously rich"

But if the girl is a worker imported to work for these families from Indonesia, The Philippines, etc, simply having a professional income is "rich"

Domestic workers get around $4000 HKD a month.

 

I mean in her definition of "rich". He probably is not but maybe she thinks he is and that's why she's with him.

[yxalitis]

Younger Chinese girls happy to date older guys really isn't unusual.

 

I have a friend about yxalitis age and he is currently seeing a 20 something Chinese girl - no scam, weirdness or anything. She just likes him, he likes her.

One of the girls is 22, the other 29

I can't imagine having a serious relationship with a 22 year old, my daughter is 21, the introduction could be...awkward.

In fact, I have just now asked them, theoretically, what they would think if I started dating seriously a 22 year old....let you know their response.

 

I know what my ex wife would say:

"you're F'ing crazy!"

 

She had issues with the 35 year old ex...!

[yxalitis]

First daughter replies:

I think it would be very strange, especially for [elder daughter] who's even closer in age

Cringe

[joseb]

Does she think he is rich?

 

He's not rich but well off.

I'm sure she is attracted to his ability to provide for her, yes.

Just like the majority of women.

[yxalitis]

Eldest daughter

"Yeah, I agree with [sister]. 20s would be incredibly strange and uncomfortable for me. Plus, you have lived twice the life she had, how can you possibly be compatible on any level? Knowledge, experience in life, development etc. I think it's best to stick to someone closer to your age.

[carhill]

Bonus, fly an Asian carrier and flirt on the plane. CX (Cathay) would be my choice. Or, just enjoy the scenery. Heh.

[Els]

The majority of genuine young Asian women want a good boyfriend - some might be open towards Caucasian guys, but even then it's all about being courted and dated, not cybersex and nude pics on the first day. Dating for months or even years before having sex is fairly normal. A few girls do want casual sex and don't particularly want a R, but they will get that from the rich or handsome men they meet at bars, nightclubs and parties. NOBODY goes around doing what the girls the OP described do, unless they are (1) escorts, (2) scammers, (3) gold diggers.

 

I mean, it's your life, if that's what you want, go for it. No skin off my back, and it isn't necessarily going to cause you any harm if you're careful. Mutual benefit to the escort and all that. It's just really laughable how you pooh-pooh the bar girls and then claim these girls are all genuine and a different breed.

Edited August 13, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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[yxalitis]

Bonus, fly an Asian carrier and flirt on the plane. CX (Cathay) would be my choice. Or, just enjoy the scenery. Heh.

I am flying CX actually!

[yxalitis]

NOBODY goes around doing what the girls the OP described do, unless they are (1) escorts, (2) scammers, (3) gold diggers.

 

I can find girls doing that, I HAVE found girls like that HERE in my home city.

They weren't scammers or gold diggers, or escorts.

 

Woman get lonely and horny too!

 

And my immediate, actual dating experience with Asians here, in Melbourne is 2-4 dates before we first had sex. I have dated and had sex with more than a few.

Two were LTR's, the other didn't work out

So your line:

"Dating for months or even years before having sex is fairly normal. "

Doesn't marry up with my actual, real world experience.

 

And I'm sorry, are you and the other guy assuming that since you lived in "An Asian country" that, somehow, they are the same?

 

HK is huge melting pot of all types, in a very cosmopolitan, modern city, it has a large transient population, people come and go all the time, quick hookups are common in this setting, Asian or otherwise.

 

Again, why don't you just wait and see what my update says in a week and a bit.

[Zippy2000]

As if, "most polite, well spoken, and attractive woman I've ever met in online dating... They send me photos of their daily activities, mundane shopping trips, food they are eating. their openness and communication leaves the local girls dead in the water.", can't possibly be scammers???

LOL!

 

Scammers obviously have scammer tattooed onto their foreheads.

 

 

 

 

Well, you`d be surprised. Have you not heard of the term "Cat fish"? I suggest you look it up. Some people have been scammed up to 2 years!

 

I believe there is a film Catfish based on real events . Just do some research and mock people. Just keep an open mind and safety is your main priority.

[Els]

 

And my immediate, actual dating experience with Asians here, in Melbourne is 2-4 dates before we first had sex. I have dated and had sex with more than a few.

Two were LTR's, the other didn't work out

So your line:

"Dating for months or even years before having sex is fairly normal. "

Doesn't marry up with my actual, real world experience.

 

Yeah, you want to re read that again.

1. "Fairly normal" does not mean 100% of the time.

2. Hookups do happen, but casual sex is easy enough to get for a young woman in Hong Kong that there is zero purpose in cybersexing random dudes... unless you have an ulterior motive. And yes, if they are cybering you on day 1 there is obviously a shotgun approach being used.

3. Second and third generation Asians in other countries are raised in the other country's culture, so your 'experience' is irrelevant

 

And I'm sorry, are you and the other guy assuming that since you lived in "An Asian country" that, somehow, they are the same?

 

I am familiar enough with Hong Kong, its culture and its people. That's all I'm gonna say. Also.. if what you mean by 'domestic girl' is a live in maid, it's extremely unlikely that they are from Hong Kong.

 

HK is huge melting pot of all types, in a very cosmopolitan, modern city, it has a large transient population, people come and go all the time, quick hookups are common in this setting, Asian or otherwise.

 

Again, why don't you just wait and see what my update says in a week and a bit.

 

Again, like I said, by all means go for it. It's hilarious how you're painting these women as so very different from the girls in the bar scene (who are, honestly, more likely to be genuine), but that's not my problem. I have no issue with consensual relations of any nature between adults. I also feel for them, as there is usually a very strong need that drives the young women who do this, so I have no intention of making things more difficult for them.

Edited August 7, 2015 by Elswyth

[gaius]

While it might be one of the most epic stories in loveshack history if you got kidnapped by an organ farmer, or just stopped posting all together leaving us only to speculate on what grisly fate befell you, I hope it goes well because you seem very honest and open and I enjoy your posts. So be careful man. And let us know how it went.

[carhill]

Best revenge for all the rippin' is to get on a plane and have a blast. For me it was the clacking of the rails in the snow as I went from city to city in post-Communist Ukraine and Russia. The hand of a lovely lady on the glass of my coach as we said a tearful goodbye on a cold winter's day after a warm night of lovemaking. Etc, etc. Yeah, trust me, I heard all the scammer stuff too, and this was back when the internet was young. IMO, people find what they're looking for, so be clear about that. You'll attract who you are.

[h0000]

Best revenge for all the rippin' is to get on a plane and have a blast. For me it was the clacking of the rails in the snow as I went from city to city in post-Communist Ukraine and Russia. The hand of a lovely lady on the glass of my coach as we said a tearful goodbye on a cold winter's day after a warm night of lovemaking. Etc, etc. Yeah, trust me, I heard all the scammer stuff too, and this was back when the internet was young. IMO, people find what they're looking for, so be clear about that. You'll attract who you are.

 

lol

I think people here have a valid reason to worry for OP. There is a saying called "too good to be true". Even OP himself was shocked at the begnning. But it was all too nice and he doesn't wan to burst his bubbles.

What does OP have to offer that can attract not only one, but hundreds of women, who are also just gorgeous? And if he was to offer them relationship and affection and love, they may overlook the superficials, but he is not.

Come on people,only explanation is that they are not really that "gorgeous" looking, nor are they "very successful business women". They may actually work at a low-end job, have limited education ,or narrow horizon, thinking OP must be a rich man on a business trip in HK, and dreaming OP can take them back to his country, or they think "getting it on with a foreigner" is something to brag about.

Don't mean to bash OP. Just a reality check. lets hope he really meets someone there who is just hot and stupid. At least she is harmless

Edited August 8, 2015 by h0000

[yxalitis]

lol

I think people here have a valid reason to worry for OP.

 

This is the thing that get's me...

 

All anyone had to say, "good luck, be careful,there are scammers about"

 

But instead I'm being lambasted and treated like an idiot...I am not a naive twit who's not going to vet the girls, choose carefully, chat, call, video chat EXTENSIVELY to make sure everything they say makes sense, and checks out.

 

I have already replied, at length, reassuring the doubters that I'm being careful, and taking steps to mitigate risk, which no one here seems to read.

 

What, exactly, do you think this girl is going to do that I should be worried"" about?

 

She texts me daily, several times, sends me photos and videos, I video chat to her every night, and no, we just talk mostly, the first time we had video sex it just sort of happened because I was naked in bed,and we got talking about night clothes, and got carried away..She showed me photos of her work, her children in the Phillipines, her study she does nightly yo improve herself...

IF this is a scam, I'll smell it, I'm not going to give her a dime aprt from reasonable expenses (like paying for diner).

 

No, I'm not going to be buying her overpriced drinks at those bars where she gets a cut of the price. I wont'GO to those bar.

 

I'm not going to follow her down a blind alley at 2:00am, go to a sleazy night club, go into the red light district...

I'M NOT STUPID!

IF she says or does anything at all that's fishy, I'll back right out.

 

In fact, do you know that the girl I have chosen has to be back at her bosses house by 9:00pm?

[jay1983]

Just go and have fun. You got this under control.

Edited August 13, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[h0000]

Ok so I basically stopped reading after you said you met hundreds of beautiful women online and some are even business women. I was just saying if they are all interested in a genuine way that's simply not Possible

Anyway now it seems like you have narrowed down to this one particular who is a Pilipino? So she is a maid or something ? If so then I'm not surprised she wants to so bad since day one. she has to be home by 9? Probably employer requirement ? She may want to have a relationship with you and hope you can take her away? Or yeah maybe she just want to get laid. Hope it's the second