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I was talking bout the slapping him part.

 

Well, that part was funny.

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We're these guys normal looking? Did they act normal while approaching or on the date?

 

These sound like the socially awkward type.

 

Those I've met have been very good looking, professionally successful, not socially awkward at all.

 

Just SUPER HIGH expectations out the gate about how our relationship would evolve.

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Those I've met have been very good looking, professionally successful, not socially awkward at all.

 

Just SUPER HIGH expectations out the gate about how our relationship would evolve.

 

I find that hard to believe. I mean any guy would be made fun of by his friends and colleagues for acting like that.

 

Could it have just been a plan to get in your pants?

 

A lot of gals particularly the hopeless romantic type are really gullible.

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I find that hard to believe. I mean any guy would be made fun of by his friends and colleagues for acting like that.

 

Could it have just been a plan to get in your pants?

 

A lot of gals particularly the hopeless romantic type are really gullible.

 

I don't think so. The most recent one wanted to wait 6 months before having sex, but wanted full fidelity from date 1 and to take over my days and nights.

 

Do you really think they're telling their male friends about their plans to move so fast? No. And it never comes up with them, because no woman actually goes along with what he wants (all that time, moving in, etc.).

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I don't think so. The most recent one wanted to wait 6 months before having sex, but wanted full fidelity from date 1 and to take over my days and nights.

 

Do you really think they're telling their male friends about their plans to move so fast? No. And it never comes up with them, because no woman actually goes along with what he wants (all that time, moving in, etc.).

 

Well you say they seem like grown ass normal dudes with careers and stuff. Somewhere back in their early dating days, they had to have discussed this with their buddies after scaring away 2 or 3.

 

Him: damn dude, what's wrong with this girl?

 

Them: what happened

 

Him: well I met her for the first time and I proposed to her

 

Them: WTF! ROFL!!!

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Well you say they seem like grown ass normal dudes with careers and stuff. Somewhere back in their early dating days, they had to have discussed this with their buddies after scaring away 2 or 3.

 

Him: damn dude, what's wrong with this girl?

 

Them: what happened

 

Him: well I met her for the first time and I proposed to her

 

Them: WTF! ROFL!!!

 

Most of them have been divorced after 10-20 years-long marriages (don't know how to date, are looking for a replacement wife), or they're mid-40's and never married (for obvious reasons, they scare them all away).

 

And I do know that when asked by friends, they give THEIR version of the story: "She was too much of a partier" (when I wanted a girls' brunch [which includes mimosas] once a month), or "She didn't want kids, dealbreaker" (Not after the second date, I sure don't!), "She's a workaholic" (because I needed to cut a date "early" at 12:30 a.m. so I could be functioning the next morning), etc.

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IDK *shrugs*

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I find that hard to believe. I mean any guy would be made fun of by his friends and colleagues for acting like that.

 

Could it have just been a plan to get in your pants?

 

A lot of gals particularly the hopeless romantic type are really gullible.

 

Majority of men go into the dating world with HUGE expectations, in fact most men fall in love a lot quicker than women do.

 

A lot of men are full of ****, they make fun of their friends for things that they do themselves, it's ridiculous.

 

If Mary goes on a date with Tom, and Tom comes off a little high strong, Mary will decide a second date with Tom is not appropriate.

 

"He was expecting too much too quickly. Next..." -Mary to her friends

 

"I was being cool and laid back. Women just don't know what they want. Whatever, she was stuck up anyways" -Tom to his friends

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Majority of men go into the dating world with HUGE expectations, in fact most men fall in love a lot quicker than women do.

 

A lot of men are full of ****, they make fun of their friends for things that they do themselves, it's ridiculous.

 

If Mary goes on a date with Tom, and Tom comes off a little high strong, Mary will decide a second date with Tom is not appropriate.

 

"He was expecting too much too quickly. Next..." -Mary to her friends

 

"I was being cool and laid back. Women just don't know what they want. Whatever, she was stuck up anyways" -Tom to his friends

 

SPOT ON! :bunny:

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Majority of men go into the dating world with HUGE expectations, in fact most men fall in love a lot quicker than women do.

A lot of men are full of ****, they make fun of their friends for things that they do themselves, it's ridiculous.

 

If Mary goes on a date with Tom, and Tom comes off a little high strong, Mary will decide a second date with Tom is not appropriate.

 

"He was expecting too much too quickly. Next..." -Mary to her friends

 

"I was being cool and laid back. Women just don't know what they want. Whatever, she was stuck up anyways" -Tom to his friends

 

I really, really think you've got that backwards. Have you tried OLD? You have it ass backwards. You see all these threads women make, upset their FWB cut them off? Yeah......... Dude I've been one of those FWB guys. Lol

 

I agree with the rest of what you said

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Majority of men go into the dating world with HUGE expectations, in fact most men fall in love a lot quicker than women do.

 

A lot of men are full of ****, they make fun of their friends for things that they do themselves, it's ridiculous.

 

If Mary goes on a date with Tom, and Tom comes off a little high strong, Mary will decide a second date with Tom is not appropriate.

 

"He was expecting too much too quickly. Next..." -Mary to her friends

 

"I was being cool and laid back. Women just don't know what they want. Whatever, she was stuck up anyways" -Tom to his friends

 

Jonp- Thank you for this post!

 

Very true! I'm guilty of this. I literally met and proposed to the woman I married after dating for just 1 month.. :sick: ... yeah dumb I know.

 

Rose, while I understand that you chose what was best for you in this situation, part of me sympathizes with this guy. I've always been one to develop an unreasonable early attachment to someone I have great chemistry with. In my last relationship, that habit nearly cost me my life. (Psysco GF :mad:) As I've read your thread, I've been saying to myself, "it sounds like she's talking about me", minus the boring life parts.. :D

 

After much soul searching, I've decided to recalibrate and change how quickly I bond with, or ramp up expectations of the women I meet and like. But it's hard to change old habits. I get where the guy you just ended it with, is coming from though.

 

But Rose, you had every right to walk away from that situation if it didn't feel right for you. ;)

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Yeah I don't buy the argument. If that's so, then these are dudes who don't have a whole lot of experience. They aren't the majority of men or even half.

 

Love machine damn brother. :(

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I really, really think you've got that backwards. Have you tried OLD? You have it ass backwards. You see all these threads women make, upset their FWB cut them off? Yeah......... Dude I've been one of those FWB guys. Lol

 

I agree with the rest of what you said

 

I'm telling you, their either wanna f**k, or they expect an instant-committed relationship.

 

An FWB is an ongoing casual relationship where feelings ultimately develop, you can't compare that to the way some men act after one date.

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Yeah I don't buy the argument. If that's so, then these are dudes who don't have a whole lot of experience. They aren't the majority of men or even half.

 

Love machine damn brother. :(

 

They're the majority of men in my age range that I meet.

 

When I was in your age range, they mostly just wanted to hookup.

 

But men in their late 30s-40s are fearing ending up alone and getting very clingy.

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Yeah I don't buy the argument. If that's so, then these are dudes who don't have a whole lot of experience. They aren't the majority of men or even half.

 

Love machine damn brother. :(

 

 

Yeah tell me about it...

 

There's a reason I'm here on LS :D

 

In my case, it's not a lack of experience as much as it is my career demands. I'm literally on the road 20 days out of the month. This is probably one of the reasons I've tried to "accelerate" my relationships along, and why it's led me from one disaster to the next, hence the name, "I_Give_Up" ;)

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Yeah tell me about it...

 

You're kinda like the guys I've met. They decide they want to jump all in with me before they ever even really know me. I remember being the same way when I was much younger... always wound up in disaster!

 

Like them, you're an early investor (a TOO early investor), jumping in based on a little bit of a fantasy based on what the lady in question represented to you.

 

Those relationships always crash and burn once we find out who we're really dealing with! So be careful!

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You're kinda like the guys I've met. They decide they want to jump all in with me before they ever even really know me. I remember being the same way when I was much younger... always wound up in disaster!

 

Like them, you're an early investor (a TOO early investor), jumping in based on a little bit of a fantasy based on what the lady in question represented to you.

 

Those relationships always crash and burn once we find out who we're really dealing with! So be careful!

 

 

I agree with you completely in my case. The crazy exGF had flashing neon danger signs, everyone else saw them, but I couldn't. It took a knife in the shoulder to snap me back to reality. I moved her in with me after dating for a couple of months. :eek:

 

Breaking old habits are tough for me, but I'm still working on it.

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I'm telling you, their either wanna f**k, or they expect an instant-committed relationship.

 

An FWB is an ongoing casual relationship where feelings ultimately develop, you can't compare that to the way some men act after one date.

 

Rose there's really reason why some of us only wanna fu*k or FWB. It's cause we're not really into the girl. FWB is when the girl is into guy, but he ain't really into her. I have never had a women who wasn't nuts about me, let me into her womb. Ever.

 

You've got 2 extremes here. Once again, IDK *shrugs*

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Rose there's really reason why some of us only wanna fu*k or FWB. It's cause we're not really into the girl. FWB is when the girl is into guy, but he ain't really into her. I have never had a women who wasn't nuts about me, let me into her womb. Ever.

 

You've got 2 extremes here. Once again, IDK *shrugs*

 

I doesn't really matter to me, since I don't do FWB *or* the instant-relationship guys.

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Been around the block a few times and men are def more clingy and lovey-dovey and jump the gun on the happy stuff, IME. More emotionally vulnerable in general.

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Rose there's really reason why some of us only wanna fu*k or FWB. It's cause we're not really into the girl.

 

Go get a hooker then.

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I really, really think you've got that backwards. Have you tried OLD? You have it ass backwards. You see all these threads women make, upset their FWB cut them off? Yeah......... Dude I've been one of those FWB guys. Lol

 

I agree with the rest of what you said

 

It's scientifically proven that men fall in love A LOT quicker than women do (I use to think it was the opposite too). Men are already thinking about mating with the female the moment he lays eyes on her, women on the other hand need time to open up emotionally.

 

On dates men like to show off to women by paying for everything and complimenting them. All women want to know is if the guy is willing to give her space, listen to what she's saying, and can create a fun atmosphere. That's all.

 

My female friends shrug when a first date goes bad, my male friends tend to get more butt hurt lol.

 

OLD does NOT reflect on what those individuals seek in real life. If you carefully look at OLD profiles you would notice that everyone is the same (adventurous, out-going, good listeners etc.). People put what they believe others want to read/hear. You don't truly know that individual until you meet them in person, no matter what their profile says.

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Nope, it's scientifically proven that men fall in love A LOT quicker than women do (I use to think it was the opposite too). Men are already thinking about mating with the female the moment he lays eyes on her, women on the other hand need time to open up emotionally.

 

On dates men like to show off to women by paying for everything and complimenting them. All women want to know is if the guy is willing to give her space, listen to what she's saying, and can create a fun atmosphere. That's all.

 

My female friends shrug when a first date goes bad, my male friends tend to get more butt hurt lol.

 

OLD does NOT reflect on what those individuals seek in real life. If you carefully look at OLD profiles you would notice that everyone is the same (adventurous, out-going, good listeners etc.). People put what they believe others want to read/hear. You don't truly know that person until you meet them in person no matter what their profile says.

 

This may shock you, but not all men all like that. Matter of fact my whole circle of friends aren't like that. Yeah he might be thinking of laying with her as soon as he sees her, but that doesn't mean anything.

 

I know how OLD works, that isn't what I meant. I meant which guys the girls want. Trust me they're not meh about them. Try looking at more successful guys, guys who women want.

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This may shock you, but not all men all like that. Matter of fact my whole circle of friends aren't like that. Yeah he might be thinking of laying with her as soon as he sees her, but that doesn't mean anything.

 

I know how OLD works, that isn't what I meant. I meant which guys the girls want. Trust me they're not meh about them. Try looking at more successful guys, guys who women want.

 

Hence the word majority. :p

 

Only men who truly get it wouldn't fall into this trap. It's like I read somewhere once before, a male (penis) is suppose to aim and go towards what he desires, a woman (vagina) is design to accept a man mentally, physically, and spiritually. Most men nowadays act like vaginas, I blame romantic comedies.

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Most of them have been divorced after 10-20 years-long marriages (don't know how to date, are looking for a replacement wife)

 

I realise more and more that this is true. And the first time they often married because that was what everyone was doing after finishing studies and finding a job. Often without even having a clue of what love was. Then after 25 years the marriage they have grown apart and these men want to get back ASAP maybe not to the married status but to the coupled status. And they prefer that you seamlessly integrate in their life. Move to their house and do their household chores.

They don't want to date properly = really taking the time to get to know a woman. They are so scared to be faced with just their own presence that they would grab the first woman that comes by all to avoid to be ALONE.

 

And then we hear the dating gurus say that men want warmth and femininity from women. I guess that means that men want a woman who pampers them and dances to their tune. Problem is that this is the last thing women of a certain age want.

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