empresario Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 When you say she has to be intelligent and motivated, does it mean she will have to (if not already) achieve "something" (Doesn't have to compare her achievement to yours). Or it completely does not matter whether she is a lawyer or receptionist. I don't work with her, so I don't care. As long as she's smart and can keep up in our personal conversations and activities I don't really care what she does. But some type of ambition is appreciated as well. I have dated (for a year+ in my adult life) a teacher, a lawyer, a data processor for a corporate firm, a pig farmer, and a marketer. All were equally intelligent. They just all were ambitious in different ways. The data processor was by far the poorest. But she was passionate about art and worked to have enough to do it. So, for me prestige has little to do with it. I just want women with depth.
Author h0000 Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I don't work with her, so I don't care. As long as she's smart and can keep up in our personal conversations and activities I don't really care what she does. But some type of ambition is appreciated as well. I have dated (for a year+ in my adult life) a teacher, a lawyer, a data processor for a corporate firm, a pig farmer, and a marketer. All were equally intelligent. They just all were ambitious in different ways. The data processor was by far the poorest. But she was passionate about art and worked to have enough to do it. So, for me prestige has little to do with it. I just want women with depth. Guess what I try to ask is, would you consider a woman "deep" even if shes mediocre in all major aspects in her life. For example data processor sounds pretty mediocre to me and if that's what she will do her whole life, I cant imagine her being intelligent or interesting. Unless she became an artist and had her own exhibition.. Edited June 3, 2015 by h0000
elaine567 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I wonder those women who say "money and his career doesn't matter as long as he loves me", is it because they can't do better? Just different priorities. Some have been down the "money and career" attraction route and didn't find it that satisfying, so are looking for real love. Others are just not that fussed about money or career. As long they have enough to live on, luxuries and materialistic goals are irrelevant, their pleasures are more down to earth and/or people-centric. A chasing the dream mindset can be pretty selfish. Superficial people who value things and success more highly than relationships and human beings; for some that is unacceptable.
elaine567 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Guess what I try to ask is, would you consider a woman "deep" even if shes mediocre in all major aspects in her life. For example data processor sounds pretty mediocre to me and if that's what she will do her whole life, I cant imagine her being intelligent or interesting. Unless she became an artist and had her own exhibition.. In my experience there are pretty mediocre people in all walks of life. Uninteresting, unintelligent people can have high powered jobs and very interesting, intelligent people can have menial jobs. It is easy to generalise, but sometimes reality does not match up to expectations. 1
Gaeta Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Guess what I try to ask is, would you consider a woman "deep" even if shes mediocre in all major aspects in her life. For example data processor sounds pretty mediocre to me and if that's what she will do her whole life, I cant imagine her being intelligent or interesting. Unless she became an artist and had her own exhibition.. I remember shortly dating this man once. He didn't have his high school diploma and he worked in a steel manufacture. As per you he should be boring and lacking depth. After a couple of dates he invited me over to his house. He cooked me a cordon bleu dinner then he entertained me the rest of the evening talking about his numerous trips around the world. His home's wall were covered in artifacts from Africa, Indonesia, China, South America. He then took me to his garage and there was his brand new Harley Davidson, his next project was to ride from Canada to Mexico. That man was extremely interesting, articulate, cultured yet didn't finish high school.
Gaeta Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I wonder those women who say "money and his career doesn't matter as long as he loves me", is it because they can't do better? I lived 4 years with a business man that was very well financially. We had a big house with a maid and a gardener and 5 luxurious cars at the door. It was the most miserable time of my life. I probably cried alone in my bed at night the whole 4 years. When I say I don't care about his career and his money I really mean it, I've been there. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I lived 4 years with a business man that was very well financially. We had a big house with a maid and a gardener and 5 luxurious cars at the door. It was the most miserable time of my life. I probably cried alone in my bed at night the whole 4 years. When I say I don't care about his career and his money I really mean it, I've been there. Be honest. Harley guy was hotter than business guy. Business guy also likely had to work 16 hours a day to make his money.
Gaeta Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Be honest. Harley guy was hotter than business guy. Business guy also likely had to work 16 hours a day to make his money. Definitely, Harley guy was hotter, but as per some ladies on here he would not be a good relationship prospect because he has no interesting social status or education. Business guy slept at the office and I was far down his priority list BUT as per some ladies on here he was an interesting prospect because he had good social status and a good provider.
Author h0000 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 Definitely, Harley guy was hotter, but as per some ladies on here he would not be a good relationship prospect because he has no interesting social status or education. Business guy slept at the office and I was far down his priority list BUT as per some ladies on here he was an interesting prospect because he had good social status and a good provider. People here like to twist words and give extreme examples..Your example is a little ill since he didn't sound like he cared much about you. Not all successful guys are good relationship material. Of course he still has to love you and make you a priority first, and he has to be a good person in nature. Also maybe for you look is more important than money. It's essentially same thing. All superficial stuff. I guess people are turned on by different things. Personally I don't find "traveling a lot" enough to make someone intelligent or interesting. Everyone can do that. (but I'm not saying your Harley guy is not interesting)
Author h0000 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 I lived 4 years with a business man that was very well financially. We had a big house with a maid and a gardener and 5 luxurious cars at the door. It was the most miserable time of my life. I probably cried alone in my bed at night the whole 4 years. When I say I don't care about his career and his money I really mean it, I've been there. What if you met a business man who also traveled around the world and loved you to bits? That's what I mean by "can you do better" .
Emilia Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) I wonder those women who say "money and his career doesn't matter as long as he loves me", is it because they can't do better? No, it's peer pressure from other women to be in a certain way. Here on a messaging board or when you observe a group of women in real life. You have pack leaders who voice opinions and the others follow to be accepted. Same here. LS has a certain vibe and if validation is what you need, you won't drift from the dominant views. This is why it can be a waste of time to ask anything that requires some kind of honesty on personal values. You tend to get a more honest and direct response from men because the pecking order is based on something else, not on falling in line. Edited June 4, 2015 by Emilia Additional thoughts
guest569 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 This is a very inane post. Its funny that the point of my post goes over the heads of self proclaimed intellectuals.
guest569 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Attitude and personality of a potential partner holds much more weight for me. Whatever his perceived social status, i value things like modesty and respect and someone who, like me, believes strongly in equality. I dont measure intelligence by someone's job. My experience has proven that it's not a good indication. Edited June 4, 2015 by smiley1
LookAtThisPOst Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Be honest. Harley guy was hotter than business guy. Business guy also likely had to work 16 hours a day to make his money. Why did he HAVE to work 16 hrs a day and not a typical 8 hr day? You mean, whatever had to be done couldn't wait until the next day? Never understood people that worked a ludicrous amount of hours per week, I'd refuse to even work for such a company.
Gaeta Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Never understood people that worked a ludicrous amount of hours per week, I'd refuse to even work for such a company. He owned the company.
empresario Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Its funny that the point of my post goes over the heads of self proclaimed intellectuals. Then be more articulate in your writing to improve the inference capabilities of your audience. In rhetorics it is not the job of the audience to muddle through the labyrinth of your cognitive dissaray. If you'd like to try again without the passiveness then I will be here.
Emilia Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Its funny that the point of my post goes over the heads of self proclaimed intellectuals. Me? I'm not an intellectual. I've been merely disagreeing with your and other posters' assumptions on tradesmen. I am capable of having a clear view on things that aren't directly related to me.
Lona.loba Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I wonder those women who say "money and his career doesn't matter as long as he loves me", is it because they can't do better? Not really. Love is what really matters at least from my experience, I could actually do better and my social status is better not just money but I don't care because I love him so much and so does he
Lona.loba Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I wonder those women who say "money and his career doesn't matter as long as he loves me", is it because they can't do better? What if you met a business man who also traveled around the world and loved you to bits? That's what I mean by "can you do better" . It's not tht just he loves her, she should love him as well. Attraction and chemistry should exist
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I got this from a post in an RSD group in Facebook, a guy said: "You have to figure out what you want. I have friends way into their 30's and still work mediocre jobs and struggle with rent every month, but they get pussy thrown at them like theirs no tomorrow. On the other hand, I have friends in their 30's who are millionaires many times over and can't get pussy to save their lives."
Emilia Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I got this from a post in an RSD group in Facebook, a guy said: "You have to figure out what you want. I have friends way into their 30's and still work mediocre jobs and struggle with rent every month, but they get pussy thrown at them like theirs no tomorrow. On the other hand, I have friends in their 30's who are millionaires many times over and can't get pussy to save their lives." I'd imagine it's not just the social skills (maybe the rich guys are too focused) but the type of women too. From what I've seen, men who are good with women tend to work out which kind they are likely to have success with.
Author h0000 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 I got this from a post in an RSD group in Facebook, a guy said: "You have to figure out what you want. I have friends way into their 30's and still work mediocre jobs and struggle with rent every month, but they get pussy thrown at them like theirs no tomorrow. On the other hand, I have friends in their 30's who are millionaires many times over and can't get pussy to save their lives." What are you trying to say exactly?
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 What are you trying to say exactly? Trying to tell the OP that there are women out there that are not as judgemental on a mans income as other women are
Emilia Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Trying to tell the OP that there are women out there that are not as judgemental on a mans income as other women are They are judgemental about other things though. Maybe they like men that drink or take drugs or look after their mums, etc. everyone is judgemental on something
Hopeful30 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I wouldn't say it's high on the priority list, but it definitely makes things easier. I've never dated anyone inside my "social circle," and to be honest that caused many problems. Financially I can afford some things that they could not, so either I spent more of my money allowing them that opportunity, or just not doing the activity. For example I travel alot, none of my exes could afford it, therefore I didn't travel (happy to say I've been single for a year and been travelling alot, best time ever! would be nice if I could share it with someone though, its lonely.) When I dated Russian guys, all was good. They ate all my food, could communicate with my family etc. The non-Russians gave me grief for my mentality, accusing me of mean things when this is just the way I was brought up. They didn't understand it and gave me a hard time for it. Not cool. So like I initially said, it's not necessary but it does make a lot of things easier.
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