Diezel Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 This is no laughing matter. Have you read the thread? Read my last post again if you don't get it..... Have you read ALL of her threads? You might want to do so if you don't get it yet. Trust me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SawtoothMars Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 This is no laughing matter. Have you read the thread? Read my last post again if you don't get it..... I do agree with you... but what can be done? I think she has already been through counseling and therapy. I'm just going to assume part of this is her being from Australia. I've noticed a high propensity for ladies from that culture to struggle with stuff like this. Link to post Share on other sites
snowflakes88 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Plus plenty of men in real life would love to talk about my vagina. :lmao::lmao: 5 Link to post Share on other sites
katiegrl Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I do agree with you... but what can be done? I think she has already been through counseling and therapy. I'm just going to assume part of this is her being from Australia. I've noticed a high propensity for ladies from that culture to struggle with stuff like this. What can be done? Unfortunately, not much until she hits such a low point, that it's either seeking help (mood stabilizers)...or throwing in the towel. I having a nursing degree and currently work as a legal nurse practitioner. I am VERY familiar with the symptoms of a serious mood disorder, or worse. That is why I asked her earlier if her therapist recommended she see a psychiatrist. Clearly, she is not a happy, emotionally balanced person despite her assertions to the contrary. There is A LOT of self-hatred lurking within her soul, which she attempts to hide via delusions of grandeur. Leigh, please don't dismiss this. I am worried about you. With love... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm only at page 15 but he wasn't calling and texting anyway so you don't need to end it. He's disappeared so there's nothing you need to do Leigh. Link to post Share on other sites
SawtoothMars Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What can be done? Unfortunately, not much until she hits such a low point, that it's either seeking help (mood stabilizers)...or throwing in the towel. I having a nursing degree and currently work as a legal nurse practitioner. I am VERY familiar with the symptoms of a serious mood disorder, or worse. That is why I asked her earlier if her therapist recommended she see a psychiatrist. Clearly, she is not a happy, emotionally balanced person despite her assertions to the contrary. There is A LOT of self-hatred lurking within her soul, which she attempts to hide via delusions of grandeur. Leigh, please don't dismiss this. I am worried about you. With love... I have no clinical training. I work in surgical sales and just post on here while waiting for meetings. That said, I can tell someone who is in an emotionally unhealthy place. I agree with you that Leigh87 is struggling here and I wholeheartedly endorse your approach. Best of Luck getting through to her! It may take some determination and effort on your part. Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Whoa! I just caught up! Leigh, this guy has no empathy - of he did then he would care about his kids (the two or however many it is with the ex who moved away). He said he wanted nothing to do with new baby yet he is telling you he is all there and for someone who he says emotionally abused him. I didn't post about hotties and him dating them - you did - that is WHY I mentioned them. I am happy to quote your posts from before I posted if you don't believe me. Can you totally not see this guy is a lying jerk? For all the 'porn star body and designer vajayjay you have - how is that even relevant when we're talking about a man's integrity or lack thereof? You look for chemistry, you seriously, seriously overlook integrity. We all look for chemistry and good sex (and both can last over years) but heck integrity is paramount to any long term relationship!!!! It's like you date at 28/29 (?) like you're a 16 year old. You just go for chemistry and are more than happy to overlook every single other thing. You won't find a good man that way - you need to wise up and also you very much need to stop believing all that a man says to you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm no connoisseur, but to me, vaginas look like vaginas. Other than grooming and good hygiene, what more is there to how it looks? It's a vagina. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shvrk Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm no connoisseur, but to me, vaginas look like vaginas. Other than grooming and good hygiene, what more is there to how it looks? It's a vagina. She might be referring to shape and that it looks similar to one of a pornstar... Simple. No long outer lips. Etc. In my experience men seem to only care whats on the "inside" if they want sex. In hish school guys would trip over the way a coochie looked. If they hadn't had sex. Or watched too much porn. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 She might be referring to shape and that it looks similar to one of a pornstar... Simple. No long outer lips. Etc. In my experience men seem to only care whats on the "inside" if they want sex. In hish school guys would trip over the way a coochie looked. If they hadn't had sex. Or watched too much porn. I mean... I've watched plenty of porn. Sure there are subtle variations in the size or shape of lips, the clitoris, skin tone... but in the grand scheme, they all really look almost the same even with those unique variations. They still all look like a vagina! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 but in the grand scheme, they all really look almost the same even with those unique variations. They still all look like a vagina! You mean if I get a designer one my boyfriend won't want to have oral sex even more often?? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
shvrk Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I mean... I've watched plenty of porn. Sure there are subtle variations in the size or shape of lips, the clitoris, skin tone... but in the grand scheme, they all really look almost the same even with those unique variations. They still all look like a vagina! Haha aww I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I figure if a man loves vaginas, he's gonna love the one in front of him given it's well cared for. If a man thinks vaginas are yucky (lord knows I've been with those kinds...), that is not my fault! It's not a reaction to my vagina. It's him having a hangup about vaginas. I could have the most bedazzled vajazzled velvet lined vagina and if a man thinks vaginas are yucky, it does not matter. So, IMO, a vagina that is clean and cared for is as good looking as any! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 You're probably not gunna believe me but some men have told me that they have preferences for vaginas. This current guy is one. And a few others have said they prefer "the nice looking ones " Some men are shallow. Current guy sounds shallow. Since he told me that he doesn't go down because most don't look or smell great. But mine apparently does. As other guys have all told me. MOST MEN totally don't give a darn! Only shallow dudes. Link to post Share on other sites
CrystalCastles Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If a man thinks vaginas are yucky (lord knows I've been with those kinds...) Are you sure they weren't gay? I mean, if a man thinks vaginas are gross, then I would think he's either gay or asexual. I would think that a heterosexual man is into vaginas and if he's not, he's not heterosexual... Link to post Share on other sites
shvrk Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 You're probably not gunna believe me but some men have told me that they have preferences for vaginas. This current guy is one. And a few others have said they prefer "the nice looking ones " Some men are shallow. Current guy sounds shallow. Since he told me that he doesn't go down because most don't look or smell great. But mine apparently does. As other guys have all told me. MOST MEN totally don't give a darn! Only shallow dudes. Leigh, then I'll ask you. What does a not nice looking vagina look like? Didn't you say that all the guys you have been with have told you something about the way your vagina looks? So you've only been with shallow guys? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) The neighbor was literally within the past month … while on the way to meet the guy this thread's about. I MET the neighbour. On the same day I met this guy. I DID NOT BANG HIM until a week later!!!!!! after hanging out almost daily!!!! And it was because we were wasted. We didn't set out to. I'd known both men one week. I didn't realise that he considered me a gf. I was very into this guy but a week in I didn't think I owed a new dating prospect monogamy... And I slept with an Irish guy back in Jan.... I kissed a few more but I didn't have sex with more than three men this year. That's not overtly high. I don't usually sleep with three men within a four month period. I am usually in a relationship. Or abstinent.. As my track record of 10 years sexually active indicates. The fact I was promiscuous for 10% and good 80% doesn't make me promiscuous. 8 out of 10 years I was not promiscuous. I've tried casual sex and didn't enjoy it. I never enjoyed the few one night stands I had. I only ENJOY sex if I feel I have a connection and I am dating the guy. Promiscuous people can go to a club or bar and easily enjoy sex with a stranger. I cannot do that.. Edited April 21, 2015 by Leigh 87 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Leigh, then I'll ask you. What does a not nice looking vagina look like? Didn't you say that all the guys you have been with have told you something about the way your vagina looks? So you've only been with shallow guys? Most men don't care. A few do..yes it's shallow. They spoke as though it was a preference just like any other. Like having a pechnant for blondes. The guys who have a preference and only opt to go down in certain women said this: - when casually sleeping with women, these men only went down on the hottest women and also the women with nice looking vaginas. They also said if they ever fell in love, they would of course over look a sloppy vagina or one with lips protruding way down, but obviously they would prefer a nice one. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I will reiterate: I was one of the " guys " growing up. Not a tom boy, but my acne and booked smile made it impossible for me to date or be objectified as a sexual being and so I just clowned around with the guys. This is why I've heard so much stuff the younger ones carried in about regarding women and sex!! Mature adults don't usually care about vaginas unless they're shallow. I can understand the need to be attracted to your partner, however, you were attracted before you saw what their vagina looked like so only highly superficial men would actually be perturbed.. By a less than porn star looking neat va jay jay Link to post Share on other sites
shvrk Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Most men don't care. A few do..yes it's shallow. They spoke as though it was a preference just like any other. Like having a pechnant for blondes. The guys who have a preference and only opt to go down in certain women said this: - when casually sleeping with women, these men only went down on the hottest women and also the women with nice looking vaginas. They also said if they ever fell in love, they would of course over look a sloppy vagina or one with lips protruding way down, but obviously they would prefer a nice one. I've got protruding lips (total tmi) and I love them, as does my boyfriend. I understand people have preferences but to separate protruding inner lips from "nice looking" is... rude. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I've got protruding lips (total tmi) and I love them, as does my boyfriend. I understand people have preferences but to separate protruding inner lips from "nice looking" is... rude. Most guys agree! A few guys have told me that they opted to go down on me and not others was due to my inner lips being invisible and it looking neater. When I asked other men, after dating them for a while, if they have any sexual prefernces regarding their partners genitals, they were baffled that the men I had been with previously, actually HAD preferences....... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Leigh 87 Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Whoa! I just caught up! Leigh, this guy has no empathy - of he did then he would care about his kids (the two or however many it is with the ex who moved away). He said he wanted nothing to do with new baby yet he is telling you he is all there and for someone who he says emotionally abused him. I didn't post about hotties and him dating them - you did - that is WHY I mentioned them. I am happy to quote your posts from before I posted if you don't believe me. Can you totally not see this guy is a lying jerk? For all the 'porn star body and designer vajayjay you have - how is that even relevant when we're talking about a man's integrity or lack thereof? You look for chemistry, you seriously, seriously overlook integrity. We all look for chemistry and good sex (and both can last over years) but heck integrity is paramount to any long term relationship!!!! It's like you date at 28/29 (?) like you're a 16 year old. You just go for chemistry and are more than happy to overlook every single other thing. You won't find a good man that way - you need to wise up and also you very much need to stop believing all that a man says to you. I want integrity. But sorry, I'm not even kissing or dating a dude who I have less than amazing chemistry with. It's only been seven months. I'm sure I can find a guy who I feel the spark for, and how ends up being a great guy. I don't need perfection. I've felt the best sexual click with average looking dudes. So I am not holding out for Mr hottie on a six figure income!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Are you sure they weren't gay? I mean, if a man thinks vaginas are gross, then I would think he's either gay or asexual. I would think that a heterosexual man is into vaginas and if he's not, he's not heterosexual... One of them very well could have been gay. But years later it is most certainly not my place to question his preferences. Another was just very sexually prudish. Found vaginas "yucky", and refused blowjobs as well. It took him 2 months of dating to finally kiss me. I am a very patient person and sometimes I wish I wasn't... Then there was one who saw vaginas as simply something meant for a penis to go into and nothing more. Not something to be touched and tasted and looked at. There really are a decent amount of men out there who just aren't terribly fond of getting up close and personal with a vagina. It's not a myth. ALL my exes were that way. Hence why I figure if a man really just likes vaginas, he's gonna like the one in front of him, and if he's not so thrilled about vaginas unless his penis is in it, then there's no changing his mind. Link to post Share on other sites
LadyLee Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 so why didn't the break up happen yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 so why didn't the break up happen yesterday? Because fireworks. Link to post Share on other sites
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