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Vercetti Established Member

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I'm so happy I'm me sometimes. Aggressive women complete turn off. When was younger flattered me for a few years being approached, yet they were all sleazy failures of fake relationships. When I became selective and escaped the trap of low risk instant gratification, life got much better.

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No Limit Established Member

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I love the top Facebook comment below.

 

look, princess... you are not entitled to free ****, you're not entitled to have things done for you, you're not entitled to dictate how and when we "grow up" and you're not entitled to tell us how to dress.

you women pushed us away, you called us "pervy", "creepy" when we didn't have the requisite amount of cash/belongings etc.

instead of saying "I'm not interested" to men who ask you out that you don't find attractive - you called us harassers and made utterly ridiculous claims that we were a part of "rape culture"

you make crass jokes about men being in pain, laugh when one gets his dick cut off,band together when one needs bullying and almost orgasm when one has his children ripped from him.

then there is the blaming **** you all seem to do - you're doing it right now in this article - your bait is so unappealing and rancid that we're to blame for not "having our **** together"

you want us to date you? you want us to chase you? you want us to pay for you? no, not anymore.

 

you say we're scared of you. yes, you're dam right we're scared of you. who wouldn't be scared of someone who can, with one false accusation (which seems to be happening more and more these days) ruin our entire lives. who wouldn't be scared of a pathological lying psychopath!!?

The only time that women ever say good things about men is the day after they die.

you brought this on yourselves - it's up to you to fix it princess.

 

As for the article, well, just another cranky woman wondering why men aren't into being deceived - what did she call it, "playing coy" - and spending money to be her butler.

 

"If you’re a single woman, you probably envisioned your twenties as a roaring social scene full of expensive dinners and lavish nights out..." No, I never did. I expected that kind of stuff to happen when I'd pass the 1-year-mark with a boyfriend maybe, but a stranger when none of us barely know each other? That nice dinner would be ruined by embarassed silence anyway.

 

The only point I kinda agree one is this; "You probably thought you’d meet a guy at a bar and that he’d ask for your number. You probably thought you’d be on your way to dinner next week."

Well, while I didn't expect to be taken to dinner either I did think we'd maybe meet up at some point, but, no. Guess I was just being naive though, I mean that guy didn't believe me when I said I was single, not even when I showed him my Facebook profile (which has no male comment anywhere). In his case I guess it was a bad experience with the ex or something... :confused:

 

I think I'll pass on the dating world of my generation.

 

 

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Just noticed that this article has almost 2 million likes. Faith in humanity -1

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Gloria25 Established Member

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The problem with this is the perception of the signal. Women are usually very nervous in such situations. So in their mind they see their signal as a huge billboard shouting look at me....when in reality its more like a post-it note that the guy can barely read. Most "signals" women use are much more subtle than they realize.

 

Look at how many times people give advice to men or women to just "smile" and be talkative. How is that a signal?? People smile and talk to me all the time, but its doesnt mean they want to date me.

 

In my personal real-life situations, I have heard more women complain about getting hit on too much, rather than complain about not getting enough attention. As a single guy, I literally dont know when or where I'm "allowed" to approach a woman. Because all I ever hear is that they dont want approached at any store, gas station, library, gym, sporting event, bank, bar, club, wedding, church, park, festival, car show, restaurant, museum, etc, etc.

 

Agreed....^^

 

I think a woman should show clear signs (i.e. touching you, staring into your eyes, maybe even giving you her tel)...

 

But the over-the-top signs (i.e. sticking her tongue in your ear) and/or flatly asking you out is a turn off.

 

But then again, depends on what a woman wants. If she just wants a hook-up, being aggressive and upfront with what she wants (i.e. getting you in bed) is how it's gonna go.

Woggle Established Member

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The entitlement in this article is almost funny. Free drinks are nice but no man owes them to you. They are not a birthright like this author seems to think they are.

autumnnight Established Member

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I'm so happy I'm me sometimes. Aggressive women complete turn off. When was younger flattered me for a few years being approached, yet they were all sleazy failures of fake relationships. When I became selective and escaped the trap of low risk instant gratification, life got much better.

 

I love this post because he nails what, sadly, a lot of men 20-25 years younger than me seem to be focused on: low risk instant gratification. Look at pretty much eery exrpession of frustration over "those women" on forums. They have met a girl, smiled at her, had a conversation, fantasized for weeks....and then when she doesn't instantly offer to drop her pants they whine and kick the dirst and talk about all her mixed signals.

 

Men like this poster hae moved beyond adolescence to actual maturity and viola! He has someone special!

 

And I bet he and other men like him would NEVER want to get within 100 feet of the woman who wrote this article.

No Limit Established Member

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The entitlement in this article is almost funny. Free drinks are nice but no man owes them to you. They are not a birthright like this author seems to think they are.

 

I do wonder what kind of guy would want a girl that spends most of her free-time in a bar (aside from those working there or owning one of course).

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BronzeAgeJaeger217 Established Member

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I'm confused here, who do you think is delusional? The author? Women? Men?

 

I think the author has a point.

 

The women's movement has been going on since like what, the 60's? And, unfortunately, women with a "feminist" mentality have given birth to men and have sought out weak husbands.

 

And, what do we get? Weak men....perhaps what we are seeing now a days out there (this generation).

 

(1) Men raised by dominant and/or feminist women are gonna be raised to be scared of women. (2) Top that with the women's movement teaching women to go out there and "get their's"

 

Combine the two (1 and 2) and you have men who are being turned into scared, lazy, boys. They just are sitting back and waiting for women to make the moves. I mean, if you were a guy and women are just throwing themselves after you - why would you get off your duff to pursue anyone?

 

But thing is, all of this still is fighting biology. Even "if/when" the women pursue, the guy will go along with it for a while and even be flattered...BUT, he reverts back to his biology where cuz he wasn't interested (cuz she did most of the pursuing), he eventually loses interest in her AND/OR we have women who end up marrying these guys and cheating on them cuz they see these guys as "beneath" them.

 

So, I say "thanks" to the women's movement for f-ing it up for us...THANK YOU!!!

 

although i'm not sure if it is completely accurate, because I read it on an eHow article, but it said that a Female Giraffe will sometimes approach a Male Giraffe first, and Giraffes are mammals just like humans are.

Woggle Established Member

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It's funny how we treat men like predators for speaking to a woman then mock them and accuse them of having no balls when they are afraid to.

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BronzeAgeJaeger217 Established Member

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But women don't want men like this. Men are simply putting forth minimal effort and they are closing with women. It's supply and demand. The men are simply supplying what the market wants.

 

even though people argue that the sperm goes after the egg, while that is true, us humans are the most intelligent species on the planet in the sense we don't have to be dictated by our sex organs.

Phoenician Established Member

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Welcome to the feminist mentality....^^

 

They want to be "in charge", and have "equality", but still expect men to be "old fashioned", "traditional", etc.

 

So, chase her marry her, spend money on wining/dining her...heck, buy her a home and work your butt off. But guess what? No cooking, cleaning, chores, much less sex from her. She's got better things to do than be your "maid", "housekeeper", "cook", "daycare/childcare provider", "prostitute".

 

Can't have it both ways women...Either you chase/pursue guys or not.

 

If guys aren't pursuing you "women", then don't get upset about it and call them "ball-less" or whatever.

 

Gloria ,

 

it is amazing thought from a women ,

 

do you marry me :)

lol.

 

I am loosing my wife because she is in struggle all the time ;I am odd if I expect her to initiate , yet she wants equality in everything .

 

for 17 years she was the hard to satisfy ; yet she wants to be the Beta in bed.

 

and after 15 years , when she was wondering why everything is collapsing ;she tried to understand why I am not interrested in her sexually ; i just told her 100 times , I like vanilla sex , but it become dull after 15 years ;

she asked what she could do more to satisfy me ; I said just establish some change and don't deny me ;A BJ or fettish once a month would make a difeerence ...

 

Puff ,even Vanilla disappeared ...

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I never had a BJ in my life , and asking for one from a modern wife seems a sin !

StanMusial Established Member

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I think she should take her sweet, attractive friend (if she has any) to a bar Friday night and see what happens.

darkmoon Established Member

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how the hell is anybody supposed to believe her?

 

"i've watched men pine"

 

yer, every time i go out, there they are, pining...mmm...derp...

 

perhaps men can see she is literally a ball-breaker, and they are just not pining for her, sour grapes and all

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preraph Established Member

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I think there's a whole lot of truth in the article. And I still think it's mostly from being handed everything you wanted as a kid instead of having to work for it or earn it. Because being handed rewards for no reason actually erodes self-esteem. Self-esteem as a child doesn't come from having the unconditional admiration of your mother. It comes from working to achieve something and achieving it.

 

That parenting phenomenon coupled with everything now being internet-based has created this situation. And both the parenting aspect and the internet aspect contribute in multiple ways. For example, the overly permissive parent who lets her kid do nothing but play videogames or be on the smartphone day and night has failed to teach her kid to socialize face to face so he doesn't have those skills at all (or she). They are brought up in a world of being able to type in whatever they want and there it is -- so it's instant gratification -- except that you can't beam a woman in that way. You have to have the social skills or it's never going to happen. The best case scenario is you find a woman just like you and sit in separate rooms immersed in your electronics and texting each other and sending naked photos. I honestly am beginning to think this is what they're hoping for.

 

So a lot of truth to the article, but the core of the problem is they're not social because they weren't taught to be, and they don't know how to get what they want unless someone gives it to them.

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Revolver Established Member

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You tell guys not to approach and leave you alone then get mad when no one does.

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BronzeAgeJaeger217 Established Member

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I think there's a whole lot of truth in the article. And I still think it's mostly from being handed everything you wanted as a kid instead of having to work for it or earn it. Because being handed rewards for no reason actually erodes self-esteem. Self-esteem as a child doesn't come from having the unconditional admiration of your mother. It comes from working to achieve something and achieving it.

 

That parenting phenomenon coupled with everything now being internet-based has created this situation. And both the parenting aspect and the internet aspect contribute in multiple ways. For example, the overly permissive parent who lets her kid do nothing but play videogames or be on the smartphone day and night has failed to teach her kid to socialize face to face so he doesn't have those skills at all (or she). They are brought up in a world of being able to type in whatever they want and there it is -- so it's instant gratification -- except that you can't beam a woman in that way. You have to have the social skills or it's never going to happen. The best case scenario is you find a woman just like you and sit in separate rooms immersed in your electronics and texting each other and sending naked photos. I honestly am beginning to think this is what they're hoping for.

 

So a lot of truth to the article, but the core of the problem is they're not social because they weren't taught to be, and they don't know how to get what they want unless someone gives it to them.

 

so women are allowed to be spoiled?

bachdude Established Member

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It sounds like she is blaming men for the reason she never gets asked out! It must be that something wrong with men, of course!

 

Jeez, if I got a glimpse of her "ball busting" tendencies, I wouldn't ask her out either. Not because I'm afraid of her, but because I can't imagine having to deal with that attitude on a daily basis. I just wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a women where I had to wear my jock strap and cup all day!

 

Having said that, there is probably truth to the fact that men are more passive today than in the past, but the article is so overstated (well, it uses abusive language - let's call it as is) it's hard to take seriously.

 

BTW, a lot of traditional guys, the ones she laments no longer exist, by and large want a more traditional women, and a traditional woman she is definitely not! Traditional women don't emasculate men.

Maleficent Established Member

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I'm confused here, who do you think is delusional? The author? Women? Men?

 

I think the author has a point.

 

The women's movement has been going on since like what, the 60's? And, unfortunately, women with a "feminist" mentality have given birth to men and have sought out weak husbands.

 

And, what do we get? Weak men....perhaps what we are seeing now a days out there (this generation).

 

(1) Men raised by dominant and/or feminist women are gonna be raised to be scared of women. (2) Top that with the women's movement teaching women to go out there and "get their's"

 

Combine the two (1 and 2) and you have men who are being turned into scared, lazy, boys. They just are sitting back and waiting for women to make the moves. I mean, if you were a guy and women are just throwing themselves after you - why would you get off your duff to pursue anyone?

 

But thing is, all of this still is fighting biology. Even "if/when" the women pursue, the guy will go along with it for a while and even be flattered...BUT, he reverts back to his biology where cuz he wasn't interested (cuz she did most of the pursuing), he eventually loses interest in her AND/OR we have women who end up marrying these guys and cheating on them cuz they see these guys as "beneath" them.

 

So, I say "thanks" to the women's movement for f-ing it up for us...THANK YOU!!!

 

Some of the best men I've known are also the ones who were raised to respect women and understand women's issues.

 

I've also met my share of 'dominant' men who were actually sexist bit considered themselves 'alpha'

 

The women movement ruined nothing. People who have difficult dating lives are the ones responsible for their difficulties. Not women movements.

StanMusial Established Member

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BTW, a lot of traditional guys, the ones she laments no longer exist, by and large want a more traditional women, and a traditional woman she is definitely not! Traditional women don't emasculate men.

 

Exactly... look, nobody on here knows her personally (so far as I know) so all we can go on is what she wrote in the article, in order to gauge her persona or whatnot. And based on this, a more traditional sort of guy that she describes would most likely be confused over her mixed messages and incongruent mentality.

 

It's not rocket surgery. I really wonder sometimes if people take to the internets because they are totally and completed clueless about real life.

Woggle Established Member

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It wasn't the women's movement that ruined anything. It is the modern day gender warriors that put men in a no win position. If a man approaches a woman he gets called a creep and lectured on street harrassment but if he doesn't approach a woman he has no balls and his manhood is mocked. We are wrong no matter what we do and more and more men are starting to realize it so we are saying screw it. If we are criticized no matter what why try and put in any effort?

BronzeAgeJaeger217 Established Member

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Just curious, what is the logic behind why knowing what you want and going after it part of being a Man? Why is going for what you want, going after what you want, part of masculine behavior, does it say anywhere in the Bible or what?

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Just curious, what is the logic behind why knowing what you want and going after it part of being a Man? Why is going for what you want, going after what you want, part of masculine behavior, does it say anywhere in the Bible or what?

 

Depends on the circumstance...

 

I mean, I think the article that was subject of this thread implied that just cuz a guy doesn't pursue X woman, means he's a puzzy....when IMO, the author and other people who support her theory did not take into consideration that maybe the guy simply isn't interested in and/or attracted to X woman...

 

Now, when you have a circumstance like mine - where the guy is showing clear signs of "attraction" yet won't ask you out and/or try to make a move, of course you start wondering "why?". Then, when you see some guys post here about thinking "she's out of my league", you say to yourself "A "man" isn't gonna let his fears take over him, he's gonna push through it if he's attracted and/or interested"...Cuz, that's the stuff men are made of. Men have testosterone, egos, etc.

 

Men fight battles and wars, so what's so scary about pursuing a woman? Yes, like the Rolling Stones "Love is Strong"

yes, women can make men "hard" (like, literally, hard in the pants) but yes, women can make men weak...But still, women at the end of the day look up to men to "take", "lead", and "control" them...so, when a guy is shying away from pursuing her and he's showing signs of attraction/interest, some women may question how "manly" he is...
BronzeAgeJaeger217 Established Member

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Depends on the circumstance...

 

I mean, I think the article that was subject of this thread implied that just cuz a guy doesn't pursue X woman, means he's a puzzy....when IMO, the author and other people who support her theory did not take into consideration that maybe the guy simply isn't interested in and/or attracted to X woman...

 

Now, when you have a circumstance like mine - where the guy is showing clear signs of "attraction" yet won't ask you out and/or try to make a move, of course you start wondering "why?". Then, when you see some guys post here about thinking "she's out of my league", you say to yourself "A "man" isn't gonna let his fears take over him, he's gonna push through it if he's attracted and/or interested"...Cuz, that's the stuff men are made of. Men have testosterone, egos, etc.

 

Men fight battles and wars, so what's so scary about pursuing a woman? Yes, like the Rolling Stones "Love is Strong"

yes, women can make men "hard" (like, literally, hard in the pants) but yes, women can make men weak...But still, women at the end of the day look up to men to "take", "lead", and "control" them...so, when a guy is shying away from pursuing her and he's showing signs of attraction/interest, some women may question how "manly" he is...

So women love being bossed around?

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Depends on the circumstance...

 

I mean, I think the article that was subject of this thread implied that just cuz a guy doesn't pursue X woman, means he's a puzzy....when IMO, the author and other people who support her theory did not take into consideration that maybe the guy simply isn't interested in and/or attracted to X woman...

 

Now, when you have a circumstance like mine - where the guy is showing clear signs of "attraction" yet won't ask you out and/or try to make a move, of course you start wondering "why?". Then, when you see some guys post here about thinking "she's out of my league", you say to yourself "A "man" isn't gonna let his fears take over him, he's gonna push through it if he's attracted and/or interested"...Cuz, that's the stuff men are made of. Men have testosterone, egos, etc.

 

Men fight battles and wars, so what's so scary about pursuing a woman? Yes, like the Rolling Stones "Love is Strong"

yes, women can make men "hard" (like, literally, hard in the pants) but yes, women can make men weak...But still, women at the end of the day look up to men to "take", "lead", and "control" them...so, when a guy is shying away from pursuing her and he's showing signs of attraction/interest, some women may question how "manly" he is...

 

Gloria, what do you mean by women at the end of the day look up to men to... "control" them? I really have no interest to control any woman. Too much work and not loving, I believe.

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