feminists driving men away...video

[joystickd]

I've literally driven men away before, in my actual car.

 

Seriously, I just think a lot of men aren't strong enough to handle a strong woman. They're programmed from generations of women having to be in a position of weakness because they had no other choice. That didn't make the men stronger overall; it made them weaker, lazier, spoiled. The glory days are over for the men who can't rise to someone more their equal. They're just beginning for the ones who can.

 

Those women don't even understand what strength is and that is why they are still single.

[NGC1300]

Staying home, playing video games, watching porn does not improve your life. Especially social skills with women. Granted some of that motivation is a gross lack in a male role model. Many young men didn't have a proper father to guide them. I can personally attest to this issue, but I managed to pave my own path, find my own courage without my father. Still, their own fear is what prevents them from seeing what they can achieve. Simply just being cordial, humorous, and confident with women can go a long way.

 

No.

 

I've tried with women and they either cheated or lied or pretended to care.

 

Maybe I'm the problem. It's possible. But either way it's not worth any more effort or heartache when I can just stay home and play video games.

[NGC1300]

Simply just being cordial, humorous, and confident with women can go a long way.

 

Who cares.

 

Where's all the women who have to "step up" and put in the effort (be confident, funny, whatever) just to get a man?

 

They don't exist. It's all one-sided, the man must prove himself to the woman, not the other way around.

 

People like me, and many other men I would suspect, just don't want to play a rigged game. I don't care if I die alone.

[Tayken]

Who cares.

 

Where's all the women who have to "step up" and put in the effort (be confident, funny, whatever) just to get a man?

 

They don't exist. It's all one-sided, the man must prove himself to the woman, not the other way around.

 

People like me, and many other men I would suspect, just don't want to play a rigged game. I don't care if I die alone.

 

They are called unicorns. Many subscribe to the BS that it's a man's job to chase them (because they have so much to give that it's mind-blowing) because they have sex to offer, and that is what ALL men want

 

Oh...and cos they are women, hear them roar.

[Snaggletooth]

Bottom line is no self respecting man wants a ball breaker.

Edited December 24, 2014 by Snaggletooth

[No Limit]

Where's all the women who have to "step up" and put in the effort (be confident, funny, whatever) just to get a man?

 

Over here! Me, the girl in the last row!

 

Too bad that the male gender of my age prefers the type that's insecure, follows the same dumb nonsense mass media feeds them and just laughs at whatever he says.

 

No thanks. Go be with that one that spent the last few minutes exchanging numbers with 4 different guys.

Seriously though, they're much easier to keep. Hold a dollar to the ground and watch her roll over.

[littleblackheart]

They are called unicorns. Many subscribe to the BS that it's a man's job to chase them (because they have so much to give that it's mind-blowing) because they have sex to offer, and that is what ALL men want

 

Oh...and cos they are women, hear them roar.

 

And a Merry Christmas to you too

[Anela]

They are called unicorns. Many subscribe to the BS that it's a man's job to chase them (because they have so much to give that it's mind-blowing) because they have sex to offer, and that is what ALL men want

 

Oh...and cos they are women, hear them roar.

 

Maybe if men didn't go on about it being so easy for women to get sex, sex, and oh my god, more sex! then they wouldn't be seen that way.

 

I'm well aware, as are many women, that a lot of men want more than sex.

[Radu]

UGh. And all this while I was kindly storing her 20 tonnes of junk in my garage after we broke up so she could rent an apartment or a suite on her own. She didnt. She played the victim card to some fool like me who she moved in with 2 weeks later. I even had to hire the damned truck to get rid of her stuff. She filled a 5 ton cube van a pickup truck and a minivan, and it took me 10 months to get rid of the literal 9.26 tonnes of garbage she left behind.

 

Yeah. Feminism fcking rocks.

 

Oh man ... ok, you had it tough.

 

However, i hope you understand something eventually ... that for some reason [childhood/social programming/whatever] you sought out these women.

There are some men on this board who went through nasty [or nastier] experiences and eventually started looking for the right women. Obviously they found them and are very very happy now.

If you find the right one, who will not do the crap that the ones in the past have done to you, it will be worth it.

 

Feminism has been hijacked.

As long as it's about equality and respect for a fellow human being, it's great.

[Tayken]

And a Merry Christmas to you too

 

 

Listen matey...when was the last time you were in Church? It's happy holidays to you, if you must go there.

 

Blimey

[Tayken]

Maybe if men didn't go on about it being so easy for women to get sex, sex, and oh my god, more sex! then they wouldn't be seen that way.

 

I'm well aware, as are many women, that a lot of men want more than sex.

 

 

Really..that is good to know, perhaps you can pass that on to your peers?

[littleblackheart]

Listen matey...when was the last time you were in Church? It's happy holidays to you, if you must go there.

 

Blimey

 

Thank you kind Sir. Just trying to spread the love my friend, no need to go to Church for that

[ktya]

I've tried with women and they either cheated or lied or pretended to care..

 

Ditto.

 

Unfortunately for me, Miss Palm and my Xbox wont cut it. Im just going to have to get right hardass on women i get involved with and i better see pay stubs, 6-12 months of a clean house, and the password to her phone of she wants ten seconds of exclusivity or committment out of me. Otherwise, she can take a number on my friggin roster.

 

Theres a key difference between men and women. Men police themselves. Your buddy beating his wife? You kick his ass. You go around knocking up women and abandoning them? We tell the girl and tell him to smarten his act up and support his bloody kids. You go around stealing from women, dont expect any backup when the brother is beating your ass, we look the other way and tell the guy if the cops drive by.

 

Women, they seem to eat this drama sht up. You stole his favorite sports collectible? You go girl. You cheated on him and dumped him? Good for you, he was a loser im glad you found someone better. You stole his money? Thats what he gets he was a cheap bastard he never took you anyplace nice. Hit him on the head with a frying pan? Haha you sure showed him!

 

This has got to change. Women in general and especially self described femnists have to change this mindset. There are good women out there, but they dont step up in their circle of friends and say anything when this crap comes up. Theyll barbecue some broad they dont know, but they wont bitch out someone in their circle of friends for doing something horrible to a guy for fear of breaking the sisterhood pact and being shamed, or even worse, accused of having the hots for the horribly wronged ex boyfriend now suddenly transformed from great guy to horrific scumbag.

 

If i told one of my buddies i slapped my girl across the head with a frying pan hed be horrified and would probably punch me in te face and dare me to call the cops. A bunch of women would laugh like witches at how awesome that is.

 

Think globally, act locally ladies. You know what im saying.

[littleblackheart]

Ditto.

 

Unfortunately for me, Miss Palm and my Xbox wont cut it. Im just going to have to get right hardass on women i get involved with and i better see pay stubs, 6-12 months of a clean house, and the password to her phone of she wants ten seconds of exclusivity or committment out of me. Otherwise, she can take a number on my friggin roster.

 

Theres a key difference between men and women. Men police themselves. Your buddy beating his wife? You kick his ass. You go around knocking up women and abandoning them? We tell the girl and tell him to smarten his act up and support his bloody kids. You go around stealing from women, dont expect any backup when the brother is beating your ass, we look the other way and tell the guy if the cops drive by.

 

Women, they seem to eat this drama sht up. You stole his favorite sports collectible? You go girl. You cheated on him and dumped him? Good for you, he was a loser im glad you found someone better. You stole his money? Thats what he gets he was a cheap bastard he never took you anyplace nice. Hit him on the head with a frying pan? Haha you sure showed him!

 

This has got to change. Women in general and especially self described femnists have to change this mindset. There are good women out there, but they dont step up in their circle of friends and say anything when this crap comes up. Theyll barbecue some broad they dont know, but they wont bitch out someone in their circle of friends for doing something horrible to a guy for fear of breaking the sisterhood pact and being shamed, or even worse, accused of having the hots for the horribly wronged ex boyfriend now suddenly transformed from great guy to horrific scumbag.

 

If i told one of my buddies i slapped my girl across the head with a frying pan hed be horrified and would probably punch me in te face and dare me to call the cops. A bunch of women would laugh like witches at how awesome that is.

 

Think globally, act locally ladies. You know what im saying.

 

 

Not really, no.

 

 

I've read some of your other posts ktya and you seem to be a good guy (on the basis of what you've posted, anyway); yes, you've had bad experiences but guess what: so have I, and so has the rest of the world. Chances are the girls you were with would have behaved in the exact same way with or without feminism, and would have used something else as an excuse or a platform.

 

 

Feminism is a movement, not all women.

 

 

If it weren't for feminism (the original movement, not 'Angry Whiners United' as it seems to have become), I'd still be married to someone who used me in absolutely every way he could and sees parenting as an occasionally pleasant enough distraction from his very important life. As it is, I work, study and take care of my household without any help, be it financial or otherwise. That's something I take pride in, and I know I'm not the only one in this case. Not one woman I know is as you describe ktya. Not one.

 

 

I'm not looking for a relationship at the moment (or maybe ever), not because I think that all men are evil lying sex-maniacs with no feelings and only their own interests at heart, but because I'm slowly getting over a relationship that mattered to me and scarred me in more ways than I could imagine, because I'm quite happy single, and since I've been on this forum, because I'm terrified of bumping into someone who, because he has issues with feminism (don't we all...), is going to put me on his roster.

Edited December 30, 2014 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[Snaggletooth]

What I find sad about this whole thing is that I know quite a few parents who are now advising their sons against marriage, or at least advising them to self protect and hold part of themselves and their money back. It shows how much has changed. When I was a lad the general advice was "Find a woman early, settle down, look after her, do good by her and it will be the best thing you ever do". A few decades on and it's "Don't marry but if you do, guard yourself, don't put all your eggs in one basket, don't drastically change your life for her and hide away as much money as you can".

 

The other week I was talking to a very sensible and smart friend who has a son in his late teens. He was telling me that as much as doesn't want to, he feels he has to tell his son to be wary of women and to avoid marriage as not to do so would be to fail his son. A while before that I was talking to parents of the lads I used to teach and they were saying the same thing, including many of the mothers. It's become a sorry state of affairs.

 

On top of that many are also educating their sons to avoid situations where they can be falsely accused. Where we were once told to look after women and make sure they get home safely, lads are now being told to not drive a woman home without another passenger. Similar with kids, once we kept an eye on them to ensure they were safe, now lads are being told not to look and to under no circumstances place a hand on a child lest they are falsely accused. The reason I quit teaching sport is because of the latter. The academy I was associated with was told all male instructors must have a female present while we teach children to ensure us evil men don't molest them. Our team was county champions for five consecutive years, now we no longer exist as none of the men who voluntarily ran that academy are prepared to be treated as perverts that need supervision.

 

Then there's what's happening in schools. Natural male behaviour being punished by women who have no idea what it is like to be a boy and what it takes to develop into a man. A few of my friends regularly have to go into their son's schools to complain about the utter trash that is being put into their boys heads. The other day a mate's son came home with a note telling his parents that he needs therapy, There's nothing wrong with the lad, he's a great kid, full of energy and adventure. All he needs is to allowed to run and play as boys were once allowed to run and play. Me and my mates were non stop energy and action as kids, if we were raised in this modern world we would have been driven half mad by it's restrictiveness and sissification. Either chewing our legs off with frustration or dead eyed, whipped down and apathetic like caged animals.

 

How can boys be taught to survive and thrive when their natural instincts are punished? I work on people's houses all week and constantly see mothers pecking their sons to pieces "Don't do this, don't do that, come here, sit, roll over, play dead" all day long. A couple of times it's been so much I had to say to them "For f*cks sake, let the boy be a boy". Sometimes, if their Mum goes out I grab a football and give them a quick kick around, or let them lay a few bricks, or jump in some puddles, or teach them how to make a mud pie. They get a few minutes of happiness before Mum comes home and pecks them back under her apron and into submission again. It's abuse to deny a boy his natural energy and self. Verging on cruelty to punish him for it. Absolute cruelty to drug him for it.

 

Maybe the worst of all is to see young men describe themselves as "Betas" and then twist themselves into knots trying to be something else. It's dreadful, lads pecked so far down that they will actually describe themselves as second class men.

 

This is what feminism has become, though. Pecking. A constant, bullying, controlling, peck, peck, peck at men. Belittling their concerns and demonizing their natural energy, instincts and behaviour. It's no wonder lads are failing at school, it's no wonder lads are quitting on life and women. It's no wonder lads are losing respect for women. First they are smothered in cotton wool, then they are pecked to pieces. That's how many marriages are going as well, first it's all fluffy then the ring goes on the finger and the pecking starts. "Come here, heel, sit down, roll over, play dead, get therapy, or else!".

 

It's not all women, far from it, but its enough to be changing and damaging society.

Edited December 25, 2014 by Snaggletooth

[Tayken]

A few decades on and it's "Don't marry but if you do, guard yourself, don't put all your eggs in one basket, don't drastically change your life for her and hide away as much money as you can".

 

I'll be telling my son exactly the same thing, having had to go through that myself. I wonder if Moms will be telling their sons the same thing? That will be just ironic especially if they took the boy's dad to the cleaners

 

The academy I was associated with was told all male instructors must have a female present while we teach children to ensure us evil men don't molest them.

 

Yes...how many female teachers alone this year were found guilty of sleeping with underage male students and sexting them?

 

On top of that many are also educating their sons to avoid situations where they can be falsely accused.

 

There have been many cases of women making false domestic violence accusations in order to gain custody during divorce. Bad friends always encourage them to do this as the easiest way to get the man out of the home and deny him access to his kids because he dumped her / doesn't want to be with her anymore.

 

Very sad indeed the extent some women will go. You just can't ignore all these things over some prettiness or infatuation with sex.

[Snaggletooth]

I'll be telling my son exactly the same thing, having had to go through that myself. I wonder if Moms will be telling their sons the same thing? That will be just ironic especially if they took the boy's dad to the cleaners

 

 

 

Yes...how many female teachers alone this year were found guilty of sleeping with underage male students and sexting them?

 

 

 

There have been many cases of women making false domestic violence accusations in order to gain custody during divorce. Bad friends always encourage them to do this as the easiest way to get the man out of the home and deny him access to his kids because he dumped her / doesn't want to be with her anymore.

 

Very sad indeed the extent some women will go. You just can't ignore all these things over some prettiness or infatuation with sex.

 

It is sad and yup, it can't be ignored. Many women have become what the worst of men once were. They don't even realise it. What was once taught from one generation of women to the other will now be replicated by men. It's already happening. I hate to think what society will be like in another 40 years time.

[No Limit]

I wonder if Moms will be telling their sons the same thing?

 

Should I ever have a son - of course!

Feeling for all those parents whose sons are going to college and basically expected to sleep around. There are plenty of discussions about those topics already.

[Radu]

I read the article about the sexodus, it's amazing.

It won't change much though.

 

What I find sad about this whole thing is that I know quite a few parents who are now advising their sons against marriage, or at least advising them to self protect and hold part of themselves and their money back. It shows how much has changed. When I was a lad the general advice was "Find a woman early, settle down, look after her, do good by her and it will be the best thing you ever do". A few decades on and it's "Don't marry but if you do, guard yourself, don't put all your eggs in one basket, don't drastically change your life for her and hide away as much money as you can".

 

The other week I was talking to a very sensible and smart friend who has a son in his late teens. He was telling me that as much as doesn't want to, he feels he has to tell his son to be wary of women and to avoid marriage as not to do so would be to fail his son. A while before that I was talking to parents of the lads I used to teach and they were saying the same thing, including many of the mothers. It's become a sorry state of affairs.

 

On top of that many are also educating their sons to avoid situations where they can be falsely accused. Where we were once told to look after women and make sure they get home safely, lads are now being told to not drive a woman home without another passenger.

I first heard this in '96 when i was just starting HS.

My parents had a business that was doing good, in a very very poor country.

A yr before that, a kid was accused of rape by the irate father of his gf [they had sex but it was consensual and they were both underage and of the same age]; accusation was backed by her and her mother, quickly retracted when a payment was made [what they were looking after in the first place].

 

The one who warned me was the teacher who managed our class.

Granted, the above was for profit, but even here in the last 6-7yrs there have been many accusations, some of whom were proven without merit.

The general trend seems to be ... protect yourself, you can be ruined.

 

Similar with kids, once we kept an eye on them to ensure they were safe, now lads are being told not to look and to under no circumstances place a hand on a child lest they are falsely accused. The reason I quit teaching sport is because of the latter. The academy I was associated with was told all male instructors must have a female present while we teach children to ensure us evil men don't molest them. Our team was county champions for five consecutive years, now we no longer exist as none of the men who voluntarily ran that academy are prepared to be treated as perverts that need supervision.

They will start giving out participation awards en mass.

 

Then there's what's happening in schools. Natural male behaviour being punished by women who have no idea what it is like to be a boy and what it takes to develop into a man. A few of my friends regularly have to go into their son's schools to complain about the utter trash that is being put into their boys heads. The other day a mate's son came home with a note telling his parents that he needs therapy, There's nothing wrong with the lad, he's a great kid, full of energy and adventure. All he needs is to allowed to run and play as boys were once allowed to run and play. Me and my mates were non stop energy and action as kids, if we were raised in this modern world we would have been driven half mad by it's restrictiveness and sissification. Either chewing our legs off with frustration or dead eyed, whipped down and apathetic like caged animals.

When i was 6 i sat down with my grandfather for many nights making moonshine.

I did stuff with powertools, sculpted in wood mostly, i played in mud, i ran on hills, i went alone in forests and tried my best to make weapons [with said powertools].

I also went later through the experience of a teacher who valued only the female way ... and it's not pretty.

 

How can boys be taught to survive and thrive when their natural instincts are punished? I work on people's houses all week and constantly see mothers pecking their sons to pieces "Don't do this, don't do that, come here, sit, roll over, play dead" all day long. A couple of times it's been so much I had to say to them "For f*cks sake, let the boy be a boy". Sometimes, if their Mum goes out I grab a football and give them a quick kick around, or let them lay a few bricks, or jump in some puddles, or teach them how to make a mud pie. They get a few minutes of happiness before Mum comes home and pecks them back under her apron and into submission again. It's abuse to deny a boy his natural energy and self. Verging on cruelty to punish him for it. Absolute cruelty to drug him for it.

The funny thing is that some of these ppl brag about how much easier it is to raise girls ... and end up going insane in their teens.

 

Maybe the worst of all is to see young men describe themselves as "Betas" and then twist themselves into knots trying to be something else. It's dreadful, lads pecked so far down that they will actually describe themselves as second class men.

 

This is what feminism has become, though. Pecking. A constant, bullying, controlling, peck, peck, peck at men. Belittling their concerns and demonizing their natural energy, instincts and behaviour. It's no wonder lads are failing at school, it's no wonder lads are quitting on life and women. It's no wonder lads are losing respect for women. First they are smothered in cotton wool, then they are pecked to pieces. That's how many marriages are going as well, first it's all fluffy then the ring goes on the finger and the pecking starts. "Come here, heel, sit down, roll over, play dead, get therapy, or else!".

 

It's not all women, far from it, but its enough to be changing and damaging society.

 

Pretty much ... the problem is that while they try to do this [the women], they are also subconsciously attracted to men who refuse to be subjected to this.

With some there is no middle position, no position of calm ... they want the man to submit but if he submits, it's worse ...

[littleblackheart]

It is sad and yup, it can't be ignored. Many women have become what the worst of men once were. They don't even realise it. What was once taught from one generation of women to the other will now be replicated by men. It's already happening. I hate to think what society will be like in another 40 years time.

 

So now that you've laid the blame on women / feminism for all the ills of the world, what are you going to do, as a real man, at your level, to make things better?

 

 

I don't think feminism is driving men away (not many of the ones I know in real life, in any case): I think those people who were already spineless, weak, egocentric, misogynistic, who use their own bad experiences with a very small minority of women to badmouth them all, who think women being equal is a bad joke at best, who only see the negatives in any situation and twist that to suit their agenda, who don't feel like rising up to their responsibilities..., those people thank their lucky stars they have found a decent enough excuse to drive away all by themselves without looking back, and are more than happy to perpetuate this miserable state of affairs by slating women every chance they get and still treat them badly every chance they get, they are so proud of it they don't mind shouting it from the roof tops; those men are a major part of the problem, from what I can see.

 

 

No decent man I know talks about feminism in that way - they criticize it when used to extreme, pointless levels sure, like a lot of women do. They don't use it as the ultimate answer for everything gone wrong in society though.

[Radu]

You are projecting LBH.

 

He never put all the ills of the world on feminism, and his other posts are quite close to neutral.

 

OTOH, your post is full of victimization.

[littleblackheart]

You are projecting LBH.

 

He never put all the ills of the world on feminism, and his other posts are quite close to neutral.

 

OTOH, your post is full of victimization.

 

 

 

It is, like this whole thread is. You don't think the thread title is about victimization? The point I'm tying to make is that some men (not one of the men I know IRL not one - plenty on here, though) are happy to act as victims of feminism to shirt their responsibilities. Feminism is a movement - like any other movement, it has lead to some extremes, pretty much everyone is in agreement on this. This isn't the reason why mothers raise their boys in a certain way - it's reductionist and lazy to think that.

 

 

I have absolutely no idea what I'm projecting - please enlighten me.

[Radu]

Responsabilities ?

 

What responsabilities are being avoided ?

[Radu]

You know what LBH, it occured to me that maybe you just haven't seen it, therefore you don't get it.

 

This discussion has taken place many many times on this forum alone, and in countless other forums, pubs, families, etc ...

I can't even remember when i first had this discussion or something similar.

 

Suffice to say, i just don't have the energy to engage anymore, i'm emotionally spent.

I stick by my opinion, but i won't defend it.

I can't be bothered, why spend 30-60min writing something that I have learned will be dismissed immediately.

 

So i will get out of this thread, you can write whatever ... i'll go and do something more productive with my time than engaging a female/male.

 

This is checking out.

[littleblackheart]

Responsabilities ?

 

What responsabilities are being avoided ?

 

 

Clearly, I'm not expressing myself very well (French is my native language, that's my excuse ).

 

 

Let me illustrate: some men (on here, maybe also IRL but I haven't met any)use feminism as an excuse for bailing out of their relationships for instance (my partner was too demanding because she is a feminist type of thing), or for avoiding the part they played in the breakup of their relationship (she left because all she wanted was my money, like all feminists do type of scenario): these are individual, personal stories about a couple, not a symptom of society and the direct result of feminism.

 

 

Feminism has created excesses that are easily recognisable, and some of the changes feminism brought about need both men and women to adjust - it's tricky for sure, but everyone has a part to play, it's not all good or bad.

 

 

Edit: just seen your previous post. Never mind