O'Malley Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 How are hipsters being brought up on your dates? How someone discusses their interests matters. It's one thing to be passionate, but quite another if someone expresses condescension towards those who don't share those same interests. As others have said, in part it may be the region where you live, or you may not be interacting with women who would tend to be more open to your interests - women who work in the arts or entertainment fields. I think some people do equate being a hipster with possessing style rather than substance. Not a paranoia, but understandably being leery of affectation and expectations of unrealistic standards (needing to have extensive knowledge of underground art and obscure subjects). No one here knows if any of this actually applies to you or not; it may be that the women you're dating just sense general incompatibilities from the get go. 1
GemmaUK Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 It's funny how words can mean such different things in different locations! I thought the thread title was about hipster clothing and women not liking someone wearing his jeans (eg) from his hip. I wear a lot of hipster clothes (which hang from the hip) so didn't understand the problem. I'm not really sure what you mean tbh (clearly a cultural/words difference thing here). 'Hipster' in the UK means as I mentioned above. Clothes worn that hang from hip instead os waist level. 'Hip' was an old stylee word for trendy/fashionable...think along the lines 'cool dude' (which is an outdated term now in the UK...but I do see it here a lot!) 'Hippy' was style and way of living from the 60's. Floaty dresses and flares long hair, long beards (not for females preferably! ). Free love peace and happiness.... I can't fit cycling composting and liking vinyl into any of those..so..teac a UKer..what does 'hipster' mean? I don't see any of those things as being a deal breaker..they are normal activities/interests ......unless that person goes over the top talking about them a little it too much. That may well just bore someone and put them off. 1
acrosstheuniverse Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I'm also from the UK and wtf is a 'hipster'? OP, is it possible that you actually like the attention, negative or positive, you perceive you receive as being part of a fashion or lifestyle subculture? Because to me, I don't know one woman that would be put off by cycling, or home composting, or eating green. I really don't. However, if a guy was convinced he was a 'hipster' and actively identified with being one, I would find it a little juvenile as I can only assume it correlates to being an 'emo' or whatever. Just be who you are, and the right person will love you for it. 2
Elle1975 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I'm also from the UK and wtf is a 'hipster'? Ok, I laughed.. Look it up.. it's actually an interesting term. I agree.. there's worse things to get turned off by.. or to find odd or weird. I personally am not a big fan of people with 20 rings facial rings, or a spider on the upper neck. Not my thing. The absence of any tattoos on my body could probably make me look boring to some.. to each his own. Live and let live.
acrosstheuniverse Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I did look it up but it confused me by saying most hipsters do not self-identify with the term... I still don't really get it, can an entire subculture really rest on Indie music and second-hand clothing? I guess I just feel like I'm missing something!
preraph Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I'm wondering how you're ending up talking to snobs. Maybe you're attracted to a certain look that isn't working for you.
littleplanet Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Okay. One more kick at this can. (clang clang clang down the street) Here is the closest definition to what a hipster was that I can remember. Circa 1974. That's 40 years ago. I was pretty young and tender, then. First, what a hipster was not: a hippie, yippie, yuppie, beatnik, bohemian, bohunkus, micmac, munk or junkie. a corporatista, control freak, geek, nerd, crowd-chaser, anti-social, blind follower, leader (of blind followers.) Loved lunch but was never out to lunch. (a short list) Definitely not effeminate or butch (depending on gender.) Didn't really give a shyte which chandelier you swung from. Here's what a hipster tended to be: His own man. Her own woman. Long on vision, short on navel-gazing. Intellectual and decidedly not academic. More planetary than nationalistic. Worshipped above all: freedom. Less the idea of it, more the living of it. Attraction to passion in all things. Loved truth but used it as a tennis ball (long volleys and loved the game.) Language was the lifter of living communication (the more creative with it, the better.) But I must admit: back then I tended to learn about these things through musical circles. This was a strong common denominator and identifier. But the circles expanded outward through art, dance, writing, film....and included a lot of people who tended to think outside the box. Politics? Not much. Business? That was just suits. A small selective fringe group? Hardly. We were legion, then. So what's changed since then? The world, and us with it. And Gemma, Them were hip-hugger jeans back then. In 1967 Booker T and the MG's followed up Green Onions with a song devoted to such jeans. So has the term been warped out of shape? (I wonder what Bela Lugosi would think about what we've turned vampires into these days.) Mercy! 1
Versacehottie Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Ok, I laughed.. Look it up.. it's actually an interesting term. I agree.. there's worse things to get turned off by.. or to find odd or weird. I personally am not a big fan of people with 20 rings facial rings, or a spider on the upper neck. Not my thing. The absence of any tattoos on my body could probably make me look boring to some.. to each his own. Live and let live. lol, pretty sure if you google image hipsters you will know exactly what we mean in the US by hipster. BTW, most hipsters where I live, won't even identify with the group "hipsters" because they are beyond that>>>>and therein is somewhat the definition of a hipster, OP excepted of course
Versacehottie Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I still don't really get it, can an entire subculture really rest on Indie music and second-hand clothing? I guess I just feel like I'm missing something! um pretty much yes. thus OP may be encountering girls on his dates who believe he is in a phase. Though to be fair, his hipster by description is more progressive about lifestyle choices rather than music. Maybe a sub-catergory of progressive-eco-hipster-prep?
Eivuwan Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I think you should be who you are. NY is a good place to find women who accepts your style. As for me personally, the only thing that gets me is the preppy clothing, but then that's because I am the type of woman who spends 5 minutes getting ready in the morning instead of a whole hour so I can't relate to people who care a lot about their appearance.
Emilia Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I did look it up but it confused me by saying most hipsters do not self-identify with the term... I still don't really get it, can an entire subculture really rest on Indie music and second-hand clothing? I guess I just feel like I'm missing something! One word: Shoreditch. 1
Trimmer Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 lol, pretty sure if you google image hipsters you will know exactly what we mean in the US by hipster. BTW, most hipsters where I live, won't even identify with the group "hipsters" because they are beyond that>>>>and therein is somewhat the definition of a hipster, OP excepted of course Haven't you heard? Being anti-hipster is the latest hipster trend! 1
Anela Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Hipsters are annoying because the whole thing is so pretentious. When I hear the whole compost/healthy eating/cycling thing I just go . It's all affectation. I didn't realize that was a hipster thing. I guess I'm sort of one then, although I've tried to make a compost heap for the garden, in a bin, and dad keeps throwing it away. the healthy eating, I'm still not good at, but I have to be, for my stomach. Gardening to actually try to grow my own food, and ease the food budget (when it comes to shopping), has taken all the fun out of it - I'm now panicking over how I'll be able to grow enough, where I'll put it, etc. I liked playing, just seeing what I could do. I saw an actress on CNN, earlier this year. Rosie Perez. She was talking about Brooklyn, and how much it's changed, and that she could see the good side of it, but also how people in the neighbourhood could wonder why certain things being sold weren't good enough for them, twenty years ago. 1
EasyHeart Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I didn't realize that was a hipster thing. I guess I'm sort of one then, although I've tried to make a compost heap for the garden, in a bin, and dad keeps throwing it away. the healthy eating, I'm still not good at, but I have to be, for my stomach. Gardening to actually try to grow my own food, and ease the food budget (when it comes to shopping), has taken all the fun out of it - I'm now panicking over how I'll be able to grow enough, where I'll put it, etc. I liked playing, just seeing what I could do. We did all that kind of stuff growing up because my dad grew up on a farm, so it's just what you did. But if you were a hipster, Anela, you wouldn't just have a compost heap in the garden. You would have the latest $1000 composting bin prominently displayed so that everyone can see it, and you would condescendingly lecture all your neighbors about why you are a better person than they are because you have a $1000 composting bin. Hipsters are the Millennial version of Yuppies. 3
iris219 Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 We did all that kind of stuff growing up because my dad grew up on a farm, so it's just what you did. But if you were a hipster, Anela, you wouldn't just have a compost heap in the garden. You would have the latest $1000 composting bin prominently displayed so that everyone can see it, and you would condescendingly lecture all your neighbors about why you are a better person than they are because you have a $1000 composting bin. Hipsters are the Millennial version of Yuppies. My former roommate would be considered hipster (he was one of those really hip types--from his clothes to his music to his hobbies). He had these compost bins in the yard, but he didn't garden (or plant plants of any sort). Yet, he'd freak out when I threw away coffee grounds. I asked him about his compost bins one time and he said something like it being for friends who needed compost. No one ever came over to get compost, btw. So apparently it's cool to compost just in case your friends might want it someday. FTR, women loved him. He went from one girl to the next unless he was consciously taking a break between ladies, and sometimes juggled more than one. 1
Taramere Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Should I leave behind all these women with their fear-based and judgmental mindset? Or should I actually worry about this whole nonsense and try to project a more masculine character (even though I really do believe biking, composting, eating organic food is the right thing to do, I'm not just trying to be cool). I don't understand why all those things would be considered hipsterish. When I do the washing up or make my bed, is that me being a hipster? Is any behaviour that contains any degree of self sufficiency, environmental awareness or just generally "being a grown up" to now be lambasted as a sign of hipsterishness? If so then I think that speaks more to the pretentious qualities of the people doing the judging than anything else - since clearly they're obsessed with image. 1
EasyHeart Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Hipsters are like pigeons or squirrels: they're urban vermin whose numbers seem to expand no matter how many times you chase them away, but if you kick one (or, God forbid, kill one of the pests), then somehow YOU are the bad guy! It makes no sense.
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