NGC1300 Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 He is a loser He died because he refused proven treatment for his medical condition and wanted to go the natural/alternative route.... sucks for him he didnt get to enjoy his new yacht Survival of the fittest And Bill gates? Richard Feynman? Thomas Edison? I suppose they too are losers.
Arieswoman Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Eclypse, You said, I'm not happy about it but I don't think there's much I can do about it. Yes, there is - you dump her and find someone clean. 1
NGC1300 Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 How bland/boring must your life be to start using them? All intellectual honesty goes out the window when drugs are discussed. I guess wine sippers and coffee drinkers have bland lives too. 1
NGC1300 Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 you are none of the above.... and rationalizing why drugs are ok to use because all these important people did at one point... become a famous billionaire and impact our history in some way and then come here and post why doing drugs is ok You made a generalization that was blatantly false. Don't backpedal with that nonsense please. 1
Woggle Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Stay away from a cokehead. Just get out now. Believe me I can tell you from experience it just gets worse and worse. I have no issue with weed but don't deal with anybody who does harder drugs. 1
3ifbyair Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Love how everyone sounds like a cheesy infomercial about illegal drugs, but it's ok if someone's doped up on antidepressants or legally addictive drugs. I get staying away from coke heads, but a frequent pot smoker concerns me a lot less than someone who can't get through the day without popping a ton of Prozac.
hasaquestion Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Nothing like people mixed up with cokeheads to add a little levity to your own problems.
ascendotum Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I take prescribed morphine from the pain clinic for a chronic pain condition. I take it as prescribed, and don't touch illicit substances. It doesn't affect my life negatively in any way, and I barely feel the effects any more mentally, just the pain relief. It helps me to lead a normal life. I'm not sure what the point of your post was? The point was to be a smartarse, in relation to how some other people here view drugs. ie: professional career woman dables in some coke recreationally with a few friends a couple of times a month = crackwhore. Like taking morphine =/= heroin junkie.
Woggle Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Love how everyone sounds like a cheesy infomercial about illegal drugs, but it's ok if someone's doped up on antidepressants or legally addictive drugs. I get staying away from coke heads, but a frequent pot smoker concerns me a lot less than someone who can't get through the day without popping a ton of Prozac. I have no issue with recreational pot smokers but I have experience with a coke head and it is not pretty. My ex and I dabbled in pot but once she got hooked on coke things went downhill fast.
HappyLove Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Don't think that a guy is just giving a pretty girl drugs because she's pretty. They have ulterior motives OF COURSE! What do you think there are just nice dealers out there? They go for pretty or normal looking girls and offer free dugs to eventually turn them into drug mules. The cops are less likely to suspect Sally with long blond hair and pink cheeks. So they offer them free drugs or discounts to eventually use them as drug mules and prostitutes. It's a SAD world and you better get away from her OP.
InnocentMan Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Don't think that a guy is just giving a pretty girl drugs because she's pretty. They have ulterior motives OF COURSE! What do you think there are just nice dealers out there? They go for pretty or normal looking girls and offer free dugs to eventually turn them into drug mules. The cops are less likely to suspect Sally with long blond hair and pink cheeks. So they offer them free drugs or discounts to eventually use them as drug mules and prostitutes. It's a SAD world and you better get away from her OP. lol, he probably just wanted to bang her. I doubt he had her lined up as some drug mule or hooker. You watch too much tv.
lino Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Don't think that a guy is just giving a pretty girl drugs because she's pretty. They have ulterior motives OF COURSE! What do you think there are just nice dealers out there? They go for pretty or normal looking girls and offer free dugs to eventually turn them into drug mules. The cops are less likely to suspect Sally with long blond hair and pink cheeks. So they offer them free drugs or discounts to eventually use them as drug mules and prostitutes. It's a SAD world and you better get away from her OP. This possibly happens but the majority of the time guys are giving free drugs to pretty girls so that they open up their legs. I unfortunately have experience with this and it is the reason I'll never again get involved with a past or present drug user. 1
HappyLove Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 lol, he probably just wanted to bang her. I doubt he had her lined up as some drug mule or hooker. You watch too much tv. No, this is real life happens every day. You'd benefit from reading the latest issue of The Rolling Stones magazine and see for yourself what's going on in places like Vermont. They use the girls to ride into places like New York to get drugs. You really think a dealer can't get azz all day if he wants? Keep fooling yourself. They give these girls drugs because now you owe them especially if they can get you hooked and coming back for more.
InnocentMan Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 No, this is real life happens every day. You'd benefit from reading the latest issue of The Rolling Stones magazine and see for yourself what's going on in places like Vermont. They use the girls to ride into places like New York to get drugs. You really think a dealer can't get azz all day if he wants? Keep fooling yourself. They give these girls drugs because now you owe them especially if they can get you hooked and coming back for more. This may help you in life, and on forums; What is Occam's Razor?
Author Eclypse Posted April 7, 2014 Author Posted April 7, 2014 Sorry I haven't been able to come on and respond properly. It's just been so busy without a spare moment. I see a lot of people are quite anti drugs here. I was too before. I'm still not 100% comfortable with them but I've decided to compromise as long as she does it only on occasion. This is only the second time in 5 months of dating she's taken coke or speed. We've done some weed together before. Most of you are in the U.S I take it? I can understand your concerns about drug possession and criminal charges. Drugs are illegal in Australia too but it's a bit more relaxed. The police are never going to bust down your door over a few grams of whacky tobaccy, or cocaine, although we have none of that stuff anyway. I wouldn't allow it if she wanted to keep it at home anyway. You won't get arrested for taking those drugs either. I had a long discussion with her about my concerns. She promised to never take anything from people she doesn't know again, especially random dudes in clubs. We reached a compromise that she could take drugs with her friends, as long as it's no more than once every few months. I didn't want to break up. She means too much to me. She's been amazing. I've never been so satisfied in a relationship. She's not a junkie, she has a full time job, we go out every weekend to forests and mountains to go hiking. It's a really active lifestyle we lead, I guess that's why I get worried when she goes out and gets wasted or high with her friends. It's just the opposite of how we normally live.
HappyLove Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 This may help you in life, and on forums; What is Occam's Razor? Innocent man: I never really asked about insight in my life or forums so I'll pass on your linky there. I've seen some of your posts so maybe if I respected all your opinions I'd open it but I don't soooo.... Well OP, I'm sure you'll look back one day in the future and wonder why you let something as big as this just slide by. You can't say you weren't warned. Good luck!
ThatMan Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I don't think anyone can blame you for not wanting to break up. The thing you have to remember about the heavy stuff is that you never really get to fully understand the extent of which a person uses. You can share the most intimate and personal connections and still not be in a position to really understand what it's really like for them. What you would consider to be how she normally lives might be dramatically different than the truth. Having long conversations won't change that. Coke users themselves cannot grasp the role that addiction and dependency plays in their own lives. This is one of the differences between things like cocaine versus marijuana. She will always live on the brink if she continues to use coke. It's perfectly alright if you have personal beliefs on drugs and think they're okay to use recreationally. But with hard drugs it is what it is and how you feel about it won't matter. The term 'gateway drug' is misused and overused in my opinion. Cocaine will always be a gateway drug. Some use coke for fun and move on with life while others do not. Those who do not will always ante up to more frequent use, use crack, or crack with freebase cocaine. This is the inevitable nature of the highly addictive drug. No matter where she might be in life - I guarantee you'll never be able to know how bad things truly are unless it becomes exceptionally bad. People do lead active lives, are gainfully employed, and nobody is the wiser of their drug problems... Until it all comes crashing down around them. You weren't there and you don't know what happened between her and a stranger that was alone with her in a bathroom stall. There is a lot about her that aren't in a position to know. It is not a good idea to take these things at face value. Edited April 7, 2014 by ThatMan 1
ascendotum Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 lol, he probably just wanted to bang her. I doubt he had her lined up as some drug mule or hooker. You watch too much tv. free drugs to pretty girls is a tactic used by scumbag brothel owners & pimps, but it not the overriding scenario. Getting the girl blitzed & horny to take advantage of that situation is probably no.1 No.2 would be, if they got to see the girl around regularly, then she could be a future customer (full price then)
fluxy89 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 addiction is something people are predisposed to; some people do coke once and get addicted, and others can do it for one night every few months and be fine. I would know because I'm the latter and I do it once every 4-6 months with my friend. OP, I'm glad you opened your gf's eyes to the dangers of taking drugs from strangers. I'm sure she is aware of how lucky she is to be dating someone as accepting and caring as you. and grats on having an honest and beautiful gf. Sorry you had to deal with all the negativity and blanket statements regarding all drug use in general, and assumptions that your gf is a drug-addicted liar. all the best, and I'm jealous that you live in australia.
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