I'm thinking about shutting down my OKC profile.

[smackie9]

Bottom line, dating sucks.

[WP4046]

All of this. Op, just get off of the OLD site. Its a joke that only works in certain, very specific, dynamics. I totally understand how addicting it is to send messages and think that 'wow, that girl seems cool' but its NOT real life. Read my earlier posts. It wasn't invented for people in their 20s who aren't good at dating, but the websites found a huge market in people that will put a dent in their credit cards for the chance. Like the above poster said, and my experience looking at women's profiles, and my cousin who gave me an honest-to-god view of women on those profiles ALL combined. If you aren't super special (how is totally individual, but like my cousin story - jet pilot meets preschool teacher) forget it.

 

Its essentially just a roulette wheel. A 9/10 women who's profile reads 'I eat bugs and play in mud' will get emails! And lack of replies are not about women being mean! Its the bizarre dynamic of how this whole thing is marketed. Women 'generally' go on for attention or see what kind of guys email them. Men 'generally' go on because they want a relationship and suck about going about that in various ways real life. I'm one of those people. OLD nearly killed my entire confidence and I learned to never do that again and be a better person in real life.

 

Think of it like this, 'online now' on match for women 20-25 will generate about 100 hits, 'active within 24 hours' will generate more, and so on. I live in a metropolis of 4.5 million people. You get the idea. GET OFF if you are feeling a kick in the nuts about the results

 

 

I'm a man and I go on for stress relief not a relationship

[Hopeful30]

You can be a hot woman and still not find anything good online.

 

Just get back out there in the real world. Clearly online isn't working, so why waste the time? Like you said... you can't sense a spark online... and if you're as cool as you say you are... then you will have better chance in real life than online

 

A person's personality always shines better when you see them laugh or smile than if you put "fun" in your online profile lol

[WP4046]

why would anyone take a free online site seriously??????????????

 

 

Why??

[warrenorabbits]

I think that the solution is pretty clear.

 

Someone said they thought I might come off as arrogant (don't want to go back and quote them, too lazy). That might be it. BUT I think there's a bigger problem. The truth is that in real life I get the girl's number a pretty high percentage of the time if she doesn't have a bf, whereas online I get it 1 in 8 to 10 times. The numbers say I need to shift focus.

 

But then I realize why I chose OLD in the first place: it's a natural meeting spot for singles and everyone is there to find someone else. You can't say the same about any other place, not even a bar. I have no problem talking to women but I find few natural places to meet them. There's work, there's the cocktail bar I frequent, and then there are extra-curricular activities, like church and exercise. Any other place -- and even at some of these -- it feels weird to just strike up a clearly flirtacious conversation with a stranger.

 

I'm fine being single but I want someone to experience life with and show affection to.

[Sith Apprentice]

There's too much sausage online. For men online dating typically only works if you're extremely good looking. If you're average in looks or short then forget it.

 

Women have so many options online that they only respond to guys that would be out of their league offline. Example, if you're a 6 in looks and you try messaging a female 6 she's not interested. Those 6's want a male 8. Men date down while women date up.

 

Attractive mentally sane women don't need online dating. These women get offers in real life. No "Hottie" is gonna go online trolling for men. Those hot women don't go online until after they've poisoned the local well.

[Targetlock]

i know the feeling OLD is a strange and confusing game, over a year and yet to get a date just several almosts where the women would disappear on me after i get a conversation going.

[kaylan]

The responses in these OLD threads are ALWAYS so predictable.

 

The fact of the matter is that most women go online and automatically their standards go way up, and they start approaching dating as if its a supermarket where they can get exactly what they want in a guy. The list comes out, and all the check boxes need to be ticked.

 

OP, dont take it personally. Ive had my troubles with it too, but thats just how it goes. You should stick to real life, or use the dating app Tinder. Tinder really really levels the playing field. Because women actually have to proactively "like" a guys profile to talk to him. They cant just sit back and wait to be contacted without putting in a little effort.

 

The reality is this;

 

for as much as people try to say something is wrong with your profile, and for as much as society lies to us and says women arent as shallow as men...the reality is that when it comes to online dating of any kind, women are very shallow, and a lot of their behavior is based on how the guy looks. Try to get some great pictures, and you will see how little it matters to have some amazingly written profile.

 

One thing I always say to myself is this "the women who think they are too good for me online, are the same women who may be too insecure to talk to me offline". Youd be amazed how different a womans standards are offline in terms of how she views herself, and how she views the potential mate she can attain.

 

Want an example? A couple weeks ago I went out with a woman from OKC to a local sports bar. While Im there this other woman approaches me while we are playing pool, and says she recognizes me from the gym. I go there 4 days a week, so Im a regular. She then says she remembers talking to me on POF or OKC. I couldnt remember her, so she drops some details to refresh my memory of our short convo. Our OKC convo consisted of me showing interest, and her coming off wishy washy, and kinda boring. Mind you this girl then asked me if the woman I was out with was my girlfriend. Funny right? She wasnt too talkative on OKC and I let the convo die, but then she sees me in the bar and wants to talk to me. And you know what else? I even got her number after my date was over.

 

At the end of the day, what really skews things online is how thirsty dudes are for any decent looking women, and how desperate they are for sex. The guys who would never talk to certain girls offline (because she isnt really his type or because hes too shy in real life) are the same guys who get all this bravado to message all these girls online. But like I said, the same chicks who might not talk to you online, will be the same chicks vying for your attention offline.

Edited March 28, 2014 by kaylan

[WP4046]

The responses in these OLD threads are ALWAYS so predictable.

 

The fact of the matter is that most women go online and automatically their standards go way up, and they start approaching dating as if its a supermarket where they can get exactly what they want in a guy. The list comes out, and all the check boxes need to be ticked.

 

OP, dont take it personally. Ive had my troubles with it too, but thats just how it goes. You should stick to real life, or use the dating app Tinder. Tinder really really levels the playing field. Because women actually have to proactively "like" a guys profile to talk to him. They cant just sit back and wait to be contacted without putting in a little effort.

 

The reality is this;

 

for as much as people try to say something is wrong with your profile, and for as much as society lies to us and says women arent as shallow as men...the reality is that when it comes to online dating of any kind, women are very shallow, and a lot of their behavior is based on how the guy looks. Try to get some great pictures, and you will see how little it matters to have some amazingly written profile.

 

One thing I always say to myself is this "the women who think they are too good for me online, are the same women who may be too insecure to talk to me offline". Youd be amazed how different a womans standards are offline in terms of how she views herself, and how she views the potential mate she can attain.

 

Want an example? A couple weeks ago I went out with a woman from OKC to a local sports bar. While Im there this other woman approaches me while we are playing pool, and says she recognizes me from the gym. I go there 4 days a week, so Im a regular. She then says she remembers talking to me on POF or OKC. I couldnt remember her, so she drops some details to refresh my memory of our short convo. Our OKC convo consisted of me showing interest, and her coming off wishy washy, and kinda boring. Mind you this girl then asked me if the woman I was out with was my girlfriend. Funny right? She wasnt too talkative on OKC and I let the convo die, but then she sees me in the bar and wants to talk to me. And you know what else? I even got her number after my date was over.

 

At the end of the day, what really skews things online is how thirsty dudes are for any decent looking women, and how desperate they are for sex. The guys who would never talk to certain girls offline (because she isnt really his type or because hes too shy in real life) are the same guys who get all this bravado to message all these girls online. But like I said, the same chicks who might not talk to you online, will be the same chicks vying for your attention offline.

 

 

If you are unattractive it won't work

[HappyLove]

I think that the solution is pretty clear.

 

Someone said they thought I might come off as arrogant (don't want to go back and quote them, too lazy). That might be it. BUT I think there's a bigger problem. The truth is that in real life I get the girl's number a pretty high percentage of the time if she doesn't have a bf, whereas online I get it 1 in 8 to 10 times. The numbers say I need to shift focus.

 

But then I realize why I chose OLD in the first place: it's a natural meeting spot for singles and everyone is there to find someone else. You can't say the same about any other place, not even a bar. I have no problem talking to women but I find few natural places to meet them. There's work, there's the cocktail bar I frequent, and then there are extra-curricular activities, like church and exercise. Any other place -- and even at some of these -- it feels weird to just strike up a clearly flirtacious conversation with a stranger.

 

I'm fine being single but I want someone to experience life with and show affection to.

 

I think you are afraid of being rejected offline. It sucks but that's how it's been done since the beginning of time. You gotta put yourself out there because offline is your best bet. It's the best way someone is going to see the real you and give you a real chance.

 

Online is such a JOKE! There are too many pitfalls! First you gotta get someone's interest. Then get them to meet up with you. Then get them to stop checking out others online while dating you. We haven't even touched on the flaky games people online play. The whole thing is a MESS! Only the very few and very lucky meet a true match online.

[Lipitor11]

Good! Just delete it, maybe you'll feel better about it. Online dating is such a waste of time, half of those people just flake out, some like to keep their dating profiles up because they want to keep their options open, you really can't find "love" on it, you can't force it, it just happens naturally, like meeting someone by fate in the real world. And you don't even know if you have chemistry until you meet them in person.

[greenman77]

I decided to delete my OkCupid account yesterday after using it for about a month and not having any luck with it. I feel relieved. Not getting any luck with it was bringing me down. Now that I don't have it anymore I don't even have to worry and think about it. It's quite nice.

 

If you end up deciding not to use OkCupid anymore, don't disable your account, DELETE it. Having it disabled will still make you think about it and tempt you to enable it again because 'maybe I'll get lucky next time!'. Stop torturing yourself especially if you haven't had any luck like me.

[MixedUpChick]

So interesting to read all the views in this thread on online dating. Clearly it's a crapshoot & a lot of people get frustrated by it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work or only works under rare circumstances. Also the comments saying it only works for "good looking" people is a crock. I know 3 women in my area who met someone online - 2 met their guys on POF, 1 on match. One woman is in her late 20s (engaged), one is mid-30s, one late 40s (both dating about 6 months now). Two were online a while before meeting their guys, one met hers pretty quickly. Everyone is pretty average looking, none of the men or women are above about a 6-7? in looks.

 

It's hard for everyone (good looking or not), but if you're feeling frustrated take a break, hide your profile, forget about it for a while. Go back & re-activate/un-hide it later if you want to try again. Maybe when you're ready again, you even try a different site. Online dating should be only one avenue for meeting people.

 

I've been reading a book on dating & I'll share a section where the author specifically talks about online dating (this is from a section where he talks about taking risks & putting yourself in more situations to enable you to meet more people).

 

"Risk #1: Do It Online

Your role: You're attractive, single and searching, and looking for love via online dating sites. You are taking advantage of one of the most efficient and revolutionary ways to meet other single people. You are putting yourself in the path of opportunity so others can find you and you can find them. You are resourceful and smart - the opposite of desperate. You are giving other single and searching people access to you and allowing yourself to find them.

 

Your risk: Get comfortable with the uncomfortable that comes with looking for love (or lust) online. Sign up for an online dating service that feels right. Post a profile. Be honest. Don't make **** up. Should you find that you're not interesting, that's a sign you might need to develop more interests. Post a picture. Make sure you look like you. If you think you're too ugly to post a picture (refer back to earlier step in the book). When you finish writing your profile, have a friend review it for typos, grammar, and too many references to cats. When you contact people, be thoughtful, write something that shows you read the profile, and make it personal. And don't mention your penis or vagina. Some people will respond sooner, some later, some never. Some of the people you contact may be in relationships, no longer part of the service, or tired of the process.... Don't get burned out.

 

No Regrets: Millions of people meet online and get married. Not allowing people who want to find you would be unfair to yourself and the rest of the world. If you have a bad experience, remember - bad experiences happen offline, too. Don't blame online dating."

[topaMAXX]

So interesting to read all the views in this thread on online dating. Clearly it's a crapshoot & a lot of people get frustrated by it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work or only works under rare circumstances. Also the comments saying it only works for "good looking" people is a crock. I know 3 women in my area who met someone online - 2 met their guys on POF, 1 on match. One woman is in her late 20s (engaged), one is mid-30s, one late 40s (both dating about 6 months now). Two were online a while before meeting their guys, one met hers pretty quickly. Everyone is pretty average looking, none of the men or women are above about a 6-7? in looks.

 

It's hard for everyone (good looking or not), but if you're feeling frustrated take a break, hide your profile, forget about it for a while. Go back & re-activate/un-hide it later if you want to try again. Maybe when you're ready again, you even try a different site. Online dating should be only one avenue for meeting people.

 

I've been reading a book on dating & I'll share a section where the author specifically talks about online dating (this is from a section where he talks about taking risks & putting yourself in more situations to enable you to meet more people).

 

"Risk #1: Do It Online

Your role: You're attractive, single and searching, and looking for love via online dating sites. You are taking advantage of one of the most efficient and revolutionary ways to meet other single people. You are putting yourself in the path of opportunity so others can find you and you can find them. You are resourceful and smart - the opposite of desperate. You are giving other single and searching people access to you and allowing yourself to find them.

 

Your risk: Get comfortable with the uncomfortable that comes with looking for love (or lust) online. Sign up for an online dating service that feels right. Post a profile. Be honest. Don't make **** up. Should you find that you're not interesting, that's a sign you might need to develop more interests. Post a picture. Make sure you look like you. If you think you're too ugly to post a picture (refer back to earlier step in the book). When you finish writing your profile, have a friend review it for typos, grammar, and too many references to cats. When you contact people, be thoughtful, write something that shows you read the profile, and make it personal. And don't mention your penis or vagina. Some people will respond sooner, some later, some never. Some of the people you contact may be in relationships, no longer part of the service, or tired of the process.... Don't get burned out.

 

No Regrets: Millions of people meet online and get married. Not allowing people who want to find you would be unfair to yourself and the rest of the world. If you have a bad experience, remember - bad experiences happen offline, too. Don't blame online dating."

 

Unfortunately, my current situation doesn't really allow me to meet many women in person over the age of 22 (wouldn't be a bad thing if I was just looking to hookup).

 

I've been doing OLD on and off for years and have gotten advice on changing my pics and profiles from tons of friends that know me well (both guys and girls). Nothing has worked. Yet, I have no trouble attracting women IRL, which is why I believe OLD is all about stats.

 

Someone actually posted something in another thread about a matchmaking service called "It's Just Lunch". I have a meeting set up with one of the matchmakers tomorrow so hopefully that will lead somewhere.

 

If not, I might just have to go back to hooking up with 18-22 year olds at the local college until I'm able to leave the area at the end of the next year lol.

Edited March 29, 2014 by topaMAXX

[MixedUpChick]

I've been doing OLD on and off for years and have gotten advice on changing my pics and profiles from tons of friends that know me well (both guys and girls). Nothing has worked.

 

I'm in a similar situation, I've been divorced for 5 years & have been online since about a year after my divorce. I've felt as discouraged & defeated as the OP sounds, & have hidden my profile for weeks at a time before re-activating it again. I've tried multiple sites with mixed results. But I refuse to have anything but a positive attitude, it's only a matter of time before I meet the right person, I won't give up. And sure, I get a little down from time to time when I go months between dates (did I mention I'm an introvert so I don't date much anyway? LOL) - I've grown a lot & am becoming an even better person during this time. I'm not saying "being ignored or rejected online" is helping, but the time that passes & the experiences I have while I do other things (Meetups, going out with friends, dating book discussions, etc.) are turning me into an even more awesome woman than I already was, so when I do finally meet Mr. Right, he'll be that much more impressed with my awesome-ness

 

Someone actually posted something in another thread about a matchmaking service called "It's Just Lunch". I have a meeting set up with one of the matchmakers tomorrow so hopefully that will lead somewhere.

 

I haven't really heard anything good about it but I don't have any personal knowledge or experience with it - maybe it'll turn out to be exactly what you need, good luck!

[drg2365]

So interesting to read all the views in this thread on online dating. Clearly it's a crapshoot & a lot of people get frustrated by it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work or only works under rare circumstances. Also the comments saying it only works for "good looking" people is a crock. I know 3 women in my area who met someone online - 2 met their guys on POF, 1 on match. One woman is in her late 20s (engaged), one is mid-30s, one late 40s (both dating about 6 months now). Two were online a while before meeting their guys, one met hers pretty quickly. Everyone is pretty average looking, none of the men or women are above about a 6-7? in looks.

 

It's hard for everyone (good looking or not), but if you're feeling frustrated take a break, hide your profile, forget about it for a while. Go back & re-activate/un-hide it later if you want to try again. Maybe when you're ready again, you even try a different site. Online dating should be only one avenue for meeting people.

 

I've been reading a book on dating & I'll share a section where the author specifically talks about online dating (this is from a section where he talks about taking risks & putting yourself in more situations to enable you to meet more people).

 

"Risk #1: Do It Online

Your role: You're attractive, single and searching, and looking for love via online dating sites. You are taking advantage of one of the most efficient and revolutionary ways to meet other single people. You are putting yourself in the path of opportunity so others can find you and you can find them. You are resourceful and smart - the opposite of desperate. You are giving other single and searching people access to you and allowing yourself to find them.

 

Your risk: Get comfortable with the uncomfortable that comes with looking for love (or lust) online. Sign up for an online dating service that feels right. Post a profile. Be honest. Don't make **** up. Should you find that you're not interesting, that's a sign you might need to develop more interests. Post a picture. Make sure you look like you. If you think you're too ugly to post a picture (refer back to earlier step in the book). When you finish writing your profile, have a friend review it for typos, grammar, and too many references to cats. When you contact people, be thoughtful, write something that shows you read the profile, and make it personal. And don't mention your penis or vagina. Some people will respond sooner, some later, some never. Some of the people you contact may be in relationships, no longer part of the service, or tired of the process.... Don't get burned out.

 

No Regrets: Millions of people meet online and get married. Not allowing people who want to find you would be unfair to yourself and the rest of the world. If you have a bad experience, remember - bad experiences happen offline, too. Don't blame online dating."

 

Issue one: it is rare, you know 3 people who have found SOs OLD, I actually know one. That's 4 people of EVERYONE we have ever met Its also rare to win the lottery, I also know one (only 20k. Just because you know people who have doesn't mean its not SUPER rare. Its rare many men get many responses, its rare women tell the whole truth about who messages and how they respond. Both regualrly complain. Its a million times rarer a man and a woman get married from OLD

 

Issue two: guy writes book on OLD playing down the faults, while talking up the interests. I smell conflict of interest

Edited March 29, 2014 by drg2365

[MixedUpChick]

Issue one: it is rare, you know 3 people who have found SOs OLD, I actually know one. That's 4 people of EVERYONE we have ever met Its also rare to win the lottery, I also know one (only 20k. Just because you know people who have doesn't mean its not SUPER rare. Its rare many men get many responses, its rare women tell the whole truth about who messages and how they respond. Both regualrly complain. Its a million times rarer a man and a woman get married from OLD

 

Issue two: guy writes book on OLD playing down the faults, while talking up the interests. I smell conflict of interest

 

I doubt it's as rare as you think. Off the top of my head I know of those 3 women who have had success, I think if I polled all my friends & relatives I'd find there are others. I've also had plenty of dates who weren't just looking for hookups, and I've met genuinely nice people, but we just didn't connect in the right way.

 

Of course the author of that book is going to cast it in a generally positive light, he's encouraging people to try multiple avenues for meeting people. I'm sure some people on this board would hate some of his other suggestions too, lol. I don't see the conflict of interest, but if you don't like what he says (or online dating, for that matter), don't do it. Just because some people don't like it doesn't make it bad.

[Gaeta]

Issue one: it is rare, you know 3 people who have found SOs OLD, I actually know one. That's 4 people of EVERYONE we have ever met Its also rare to win the lottery, I also know one (only 20k. Just because you know people who have doesn't mean its not SUPER rare. Its rare many men get many responses, its rare women tell the whole truth about who messages and how they respond. Both regualrly complain. Its a million times rarer a man and a woman get married from OLD

 

Issue two: guy writes book on OLD playing down the faults, while talking up the interests. I smell conflict of interest

Maybe at your age or your neck of the wood but I live in a city of 4 millions. Latest survey says 72% of single people are looking for a mate online.

 

I have siblings, friends and colleagues that have found online. On top of my head I can think of 10 people in my immediate environment that are in happy relationships and they met online.

[TheBladeRunner]

Unfortunately, my current situation doesn't really allow me to meet many women in person over the age of 22 (wouldn't be a bad thing if I was just looking to hookup).

 

I've been doing OLD on and off for years and have gotten advice on changing my pics and profiles from tons of friends that know me well (both guys and girls). Nothing has worked. Yet, I have no trouble attracting women IRL, which is why I believe OLD is all about stats.

 

Someone actually posted something in another thread about a matchmaking service called "It's Just Lunch". I have a meeting set up with one of the matchmakers tomorrow so hopefully that will lead somewhere.

 

If not, I might just have to go back to hooking up with 18-22 year olds at the local college until I'm able to leave the area at the end of the next year lol.

 

I did it and although they delivered the meetings promised, it was no different than a blind date. At least w/ IRL and OLD you know what they look like and know a little about them before. I was an "easier" client in that I would go out with anyone; a date is a date and you never know who you'll meet. They would often set up meetings and the woman would flake a few days before so it's not much different than what you would get on OLD. I put my membership on hold and I don't intend to renew as it is so expensive ($2700.00) and like I said, the results were not that great.

 

Again, they did deliver what they promised, but it's just as tough as finding the right person on your own. JMO.

[Strength in Healing]

Yeah, websites like POF, OKC, etc are useless. The women if moderately attractive are getting hundreds of messages a week. It's not that they're ignoring you, per se, as much as they're getting hundreds of messages. It's just an ego boost for girls.

 

Plus, yes, they aren't looking for kind and intelligent. Here is an example of a profile that was badass:

 

Since Tony Stark stole my spotlight as a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist, I decided to become an evil genius surgeon instead. Quite a tough road, but life would be boring without dreams and challenges wouldn't it?

 

DO NOT message me if you're a stripper, lack of a sense of humor or too horny to be in public, it'll never work.

 

If you're tired of dating immature jerks and want someone who is more mature and have his life together, shoot me a message and we'll see how it goes.

 

 

Now that's just an example and can be modified of course. But that type of stuff gets responses.

[Lokie]

Sorry you're having a tough time, OP. We all want to be seen and acknowledged. Online dating can be hard on us.

 

Just a quick perspective on listing esoteric books/music/movies: I know someone who posted that he read a book I recommended on OKC (about Buddhism), and later learned he never read it. I've learned that people often craft what they want you to believe about them, instead of being authentic and real.

 

Personally, I don't get intimidated by obscure book/music/movie references, I get bored. To me, it instantly feels like one is posing. But I also ignore any profile that shows someone with a bicycle, motorcycle or what is supposed to be considered a "hot car." Yuck, posing again. But that's me, and I have come to believe that I am a small part of the population, if LS is any indication.

 

I hope you find a loving relationship soon.

 

L.

[warrenorabbits]

Sorry you're having a tough time, OP. We all want to be seen and acknowledged. Online dating can be hard on us.

 

Just a quick perspective on listing esoteric books/music/movies: I know someone who posted that he read a book I recommended on OKC (about Buddhism), and later learned he never read it. I've learned that people often craft what they want you to believe about them, instead of being authentic and real.

 

Personally, I don't get intimidated by obscure book/music/movie references, I get bored. To me, it instantly feels like one is posing. But I also ignore any profile that shows someone with a bicycle, motorcycle or what is supposed to be considered a "hot car." Yuck, posing again. But that's me, and I have come to believe that I am a small part of the population, if LS is any indication.

 

I hope you find a loving relationship soon.

 

L.

 

Thanks. As a matter of fact I am going on an IRL date this weekend. I am dialling expectations back but I'm hopeful.

 

You make a good point about books, but you really just can't win on that count. I've read -- and I actually like -- the obscure books I post. But the truth is that I've never read Harry Potter or Twilight. If I were to put those books down I'd be lying. Even if I were telling the truth some English major girl might consider that "low" or something. Or I could just omit the books I read, but then it looks like I don't read and I drive another segment of the population away. It's a lose-lose-lose- ... -lose situation.

[smackie9]

I feel expectations are always too high when it comes to OLD. If you are not careful with the wording or the photos are just right, it can send a poor impression. I agree it's not easy and the best is still going out and meeting people irl. If you are still having issues and are serious, taking a course in flirting, public speaking, assertive training or have a session with a dating coach could do the trick.

[HappyLove]

Thanks. As a matter of fact I am going on an IRL date this weekend. I am dialling expectations back but I'm hopeful.

 

You make a good point about books, but you really just can't win on that count. I've read -- and I actually like -- the obscure books I post. But the truth is that I've never read Harry Potter or Twilight. If I were to put those books down I'd be lying. Even if I were telling the truth some English major girl might consider that "low" or something. Or I could just omit the books I read, but then it looks like I don't read and I drive another segment of the population away. It's a lose-lose-lose- ... -lose situation.

 

 

Good for you! Good luck on your date it's gotta be better than OLDing

Make sure you update us!

[Tayken]

POF was good for me, and I managed to get lots of ACTION from it....however, I found a lot of flaky women on there

 

OKCupid.....similar to the above but I have learned to just take the opportunity when it presents itself.

 

OP...Could it be the way you are approaching these people that isn't working? My profile is similar to what you describe and I get lots of compliments and action