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THANK YOU!

 

In the end, what is important, is that protection is used and people get tested.

 

Also, sex researchers are starting to realize that people who have a high number of partners use more protection than people who have sex only when in a relationship.

 

People with a high number of partners know their behaviour is 'risky' for STDs and act accordingly.

 

Finally, sleeping with a lot of people means only one thing: that person loves sex! and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Girls that defend sleeping with alot of guys are hoes. Fact

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Girls that defend sleeping with alot of guys are hoes. Fact

 

What I do with my vagina is your business because....?

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My girlfriends slept with a lot of guys, I dunno a number, I dunno if she knows the number, I've never asked, its not needed - I've been there all along, I know the way she lived for a while, I know she had a lot of one night stands.

 

I couldn't give one little bit!

 

I love her, that's the only thing that matters! The only thing I'm bothered about is being her last!

 

Whether other guys agree or not *shrug*, that's for them to decided for themselves, other peoples opinion won't change our relationship.

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The OP's 5-to-40 ratio would likely be too much of a disparity for me to be comfortable with. Even without having to reveal the number of past partners, wouldn't there be social life incompatibilities with such a couple? I don't understand why there's all this concern from higher-number women about what low-number men think of them. For the vast, vast majority of us, our numbers are low because women don't want to have sex with us. How on earth are we even on your radar? I'm not going to judge any woman for her number of sexual partners but at the same time, I'm not comfortable going into a relationship feeling that I'm not in demand while my partner has to consistently fend off other guys.

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The OP's 5-to-40 ratio would likely be too much of a disparity for me to be comfortable with. Even without having to reveal the number of past partners, wouldn't there be social life incompatibilities with such a couple? I don't understand why there's all this concern from higher-number women about what low-number men think of them. For the vast, vast majority of us, our numbers are low because women don't want to have sex with us. How on earth are we even on your radar? I'm not going to judge any woman for her number of sexual partners but at the same time, I'm not comfortable going into a relationship feeling that I'm not in demand while my partner has to consistently fend off other guys.

 

Some of us don't want to sleep with men for fear of being called a slut afterwards.

 

And I said it before, men w women to 'not give it away easy 'but when a woman refuses to sleep with a man, said man is getting pissy about it.

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The OP's 5-to-40 ratio would likely be too much of a disparity for me to be comfortable with. Even without having to reveal the number of past partners, wouldn't there be social life incompatibilities with such a couple? I don't understand why there's all this concern from higher-number women about what low-number men think of them. For the vast, vast majority of us, our numbers are low because women don't want to have sex with us. How on earth are we even on your radar? I'm not going to judge any woman for her number of sexual partners but at the same time, I'm not comfortable going into a relationship feeling that I'm not in demand while my partner has to consistently fend off other guys.

 

Mine and my gf's ratio would be majorly different.....I don't feel less in demand than her...I just value a relationship more than random sex, I had my eyes set on the girl I wanted and turned down anyone else. We don't have a social incompatibility, I'm probably more of an extrovert than she is, and have a wider circle of friends.

 

You cant speculate these things based on something like numbers

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Girls that defend sleeping with alot of guys are hoes. Fact

 

Good lord having to be a wordsmith today. That isn't a fact. That is actually called an opinion. And like an a****** everyone has one.

 

And my opinion is I disagree that one is any sort of derogatory name.

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The OP's 5-to-40 ratio would likely be too much of a disparity for me to be comfortable with. Even without having to reveal the number of past partners, wouldn't there be social life incompatibilities with such a couple? I don't understand why there's all this concern from higher-number women about what low-number men think of them. For the vast, vast majority of us, our numbers are low because women don't want to have sex with us. How on earth are we even on your radar? I'm not going to judge any woman for her number of sexual partners but at the same time, I'm not comfortable going into a relationship feeling that I'm not in demand while my partner has to consistently fend off other guys.

 

To answer your questions, I personally don't care that people consider me a slut. However, judgments like slut shaming is disrespectful towards women and their ability to control what they do with their own body.

 

Male slut shamers still want women to sleep with them though, so one has to wonder how these people value women.

If a woman is a slut for having 'too many' partners, she loses value every time she has sex with a new partner.

In my mind, sleeping with a slut shamers means I will lose value, and that tells me this person sees me as an object.

 

So yeah, I don't care what they think of me and I will not sleep with them. It doesn't mean I won't take a stand against slut shaming.

 

Also, sweety, having more partners doesn't mean one is constantly fending off suitors, but the important part is that she is fending them off

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The numbers game is a game women can't win.

 

Too few she's a prude.

Too many she's a slut.

 

Let's just be real, mean want to feel special when it comes to sex.

 

I think you are overstating the 'prude' factor, when it comes to relationships. Majority of guys who are into a girl and want a relationship with her are not going to be 'eeeeeeeew what a prude' when she tells them she has been with say 3 guys (2 in LTRs, and one ONS during the last year she was single).

The only times I have see the 'prude' factor thrown around is say when a woman has been single for a while and appears somewhat closed off emotionally and a guy hits her up for some fun and she knocks him back. So yes that is a bit of a double standard there, but for a bf, its the 'too many that's the bigger negative. (some care a lot some don't care at all)

 

And yes totally agree with your last line. Another aspect of for a guy wanting to feel special (more so for guys who don't get easy NSA action) is they realize that lots of girls, especially the sex for validation types will be bang up for NSA with better looking guys, players, and the usual sorts (musicians, self important yuppies, personal trainers, bouncers, athletes, tough/edgy guys, barmen, guys in uniform,etc), but wouldn't have the time of day for them in their short skirt wearing days. So there is this aspect as well if they meet her past her younger fun/sexy days. Quite a few players I know loved easy girls when they wanted fun, but rejected them when it came to serious gf/wife. Double standard for sure, and its these guys women should have the beef with more than conservative guys.

 

ASG - 5 over last year is hardly high, but as you say it can add up. For some women I know who have been single for a while or single moms, a ONS once a month or bounce from fwb to f-buddy it adds up after 5-6 yrs. I hear of some high numbers, but its from the woman's friends usually. I expect most woman with more then 30 partners are cagey about their true number. One girl I know puts your number to shame (or is it the other way lol) during a 2 yr spell single after a breakup cheered herself up with at least 170 guys, Very pretty, conventional looking girl (but likes to let lose when she has a drink)

I would take a Samantha Jones type over a high # validation type.

 

Lindsay Lohan > 36 celebs + 3x that for non celebs probably. lol

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ASG - 5 over last year is hardly high, but as you say it can add up. For some women I know who have been single for a while or single moms, a ONS once a month or bounce from fwb to f-buddy it adds up after 5-6 yrs. I hear of some high numbers, but its from the woman's friends usually. I expect most woman with more then 30 partners are cagey about their true number. One girl I know puts your number to shame (or is it the other way lol) during a 2 yr spell single after a breakup cheered herself up with at least 170 guys, Very pretty, conventional looking girl (but likes to let lose when she has a drink)

I would take a Samantha Jones type over a high # validation type.

 

Lindsay Lohan > 36 celebs + 3x that for non celebs probably. lol

 

It really adds up. Specially since I've been single most of my adult life. And if you end up having sex with about 5 different people a year, after a few years that number is way higher than what most people would consider "proper"

 

I have no issues with my number. A few of my friends know it and and I have no problems sharing my sexcapades with them.

 

I do admit to being a bit weary of sharing my number here on LS though. The amount of slut shaming I see here is really not something I want to bring on myself. Know your audience and all that...

 

And wow, 170 in 2 years is impressive. But, to be honest, probably easily doable. Get a few crazy week long holidays in there and going out every weekend and you're there! I've had weekends where I could have slept with 4 different guys. A few where I did sleep with 2.

It does put my number to shame. But it also doesn't because I don't have sex with guys to get my number higher. I don't do it for the validation, I just really enjoy sex!

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Because i date women, not men. :rolleyes:

 

And most men are hardwired to have sex with pretty much every girl they can. Girls are NOT wired that way. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Please don't try come up with excuses for your own lack of self respect.

 

 

Most women are pretty damn horney. You ever actually see a girl orgasm? I am sure it feels awesome. Even better than what my orgasms feel like no doubt. I am sure that can be addicting and if they can have it regularly...than they will. I don't think women can just mastruabate and be content....like most guys.

 

If you really think women are not wired to really really like sex, you don't know ****. Most girls have high numbers because they like sex. You think they do it for validation because you church pastor or something like that said so and because you want to believe that.

 

 

 

 

OP, I don't really know how to think or feel on it. I have met a lot of quality women that I know as fact...have high numbers. They're good people.

 

My policy, which is open for change is....I don't want to know. Don't tell me, I am not digging for the answer. STD free? Not ****ing around behind my back? OK then.

 

Problems arise when her past catches up to her in the form of other people making known or obvious just how wild she use to be. If I talk with dudes at her work and she's the girl every guy there has gotten a blowjob from????? Oh yeah, we got problems.

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It's ok to have your standards just as long as you're not insulting the other gender for something you do yourself and then claim to have high grounds and act like a cop about it. This is the same as a fat man wanting to only date skinny models and insulting women that are overweight while he doesn't look himself in the mirror.

 

On the other hand if the person has a low sexual past and is so strict about it and have a set standard on demanding that in return, then at least he/she isn't being hypocritical.

 

For some reason, it seems that many men that keep on claiming to have high standards for women and not settle for any that sleep around and continue jabbing on and on about how they're selective while applying insults to the women that are ''easy'' are themselves the ones with a high sexual history themselves; some even might have a sordid past of unprotected sex, alcohol, drugs, etc. This is what is so irritating to many women including myself (and I don't even have a high past). Women don't do this much, not at the same rate men do.

 

I agree but lets not act like women don't have a lot of double standards. Plenty of short women will on;y date tall men but they are seen as having the right to those standards so why aren't men allowed to decide who we do and don't want to date?

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Your friends and so far i can see hardly any of the replies are slut shaming as this thread is about wanting to be in a relationship with someone with x sex partners.

 

 

A relationship thrives on shared values, and sex is a very basic one.

 

 

Personally 40+ wouldn't sit well with me either. Doesn't matter why, validation, the fun, the hunt, self esteem, whatever. Our values on something very basic in a relationship would be too different. I can't imagine giving another answer if I we were talking about men. But I do agree there is a double standard.

 

 

I do commend you for being cool with it though! Though not too cool, as you wouldn't have started a thread about it otherwise ;)

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I don't feel anybody should insult somebody for their sex life but people have the right to decide they don't want to date somebody for whatever reason. It is their life and their time so if they don't want to date a person with a high partner count that is their prerogative. Why would a high count person want to date somebody like that anyway? Why does this upset them so much. There are some people who are going to have a different view of life than you do. That is life and you can get upset about it or just not care what people think.

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I don't feel anybody should insult somebody for their sex life but people have the right to decide they don't want to date somebody for whatever reason. It is their life and their time so if they don't want to date a person with a high partner count that is their prerogative. Why would a high count person want to date somebody like that anyway? Why does this upset them so much. There are some people who are going to have a different view of life than you do. That is life and you can get upset about it or just not care what people think.

 

I agree. Just like you can prefer to date blondes or tall people or whatever.

 

To be honest, even though I haven't disclosed my number to a guy in a very very very long time, I tend to flock to guys who view sex the same way I do. It just makes sense.

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Hah, as if having high numbers as a girl is some sort of accomplishment.

 

A fat girl with a cute face could have sex with a new guy every single day. The only thing limiting her would be having to meet new men that she hasn't had sex with yet.

 

As for sleeping with a lot of guys because you enjoy sex. I don't really get that. Is there something better about being with a new guy versus having a stable guy? I just think sex would be better with a guy who really knows how to get you off.

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Hah, as if having high numbers as a girl is some sort of accomplishment.

 

A fat girl with a cute face could have sex with a new guy every single day. The only thing limiting her would be having to meet new men that she hasn't had sex with yet.

 

As for sleeping with a lot of guys because you enjoy sex. I don't really get that. Is there something better about being with a new guy versus having a stable guy?

 

Not really. But having a stable guy is not always an option. Personally, I'm not a big fan of ONS - if a relationship is not an option I will most likely have a FWB and stick with the same until something changes.

 

For example, my last partner was a FWB but in the end, he became more and more selfish. the last he came over, he was here 20 minutes.

 

So I ended it.

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Some people need to have many partners and there is nothing wrong with that but they should not get mad if a relationship minded person passes them up. If a person hates children it goes without saying that they wouldn't be good to work in a daycare center so why would a promiscuous person be mad that aren't considered relationship material. They are just not compatible with a relationship minded person.

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Some people need to have many partners and there is nothing wrong with that but they should not get mad if a relationship minded person passes them up. If a person hates children it goes without saying that they wouldn't be good to work in a daycare center so why would a promiscuous person be mad that aren't considered relationship material. They are just not compatible with a relationship minded person.

 

My only problem with what you just said is that you seem to believe people who have casual sex aren't relationship minded...

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Not really. But having a stable guy is not always an option. Personally, I'm not a big fan of ONS - if a relationship is not an option I will most likely have a FWB and stick with the same until something changes.

 

For example, my last partner was a FWB but in the end, he became more and more selfish. the last he came over, he was here 20 minutes.

 

So I ended it.

Why would a relationship not be an option? I'm sure you know decent guys who want a relationship, unless it's not what you're looking for right now.

 

I also don't really understand why people have FWB's. I get that people are horny and really like sex so they do that. But what's wrong with going without sex for a while?

 

But then I realize that I may be setting a double standard. If I knew how to become FWB's with women, would I be doing that? Possibly.

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Not really. But having a stable guy is not always an option. Personally, I'm not a big fan of ONS - if a relationship is not an option I will most likely have a FWB and stick with the same until something changes.

 

For example, my last partner was a FWB but in the end, he became more and more selfish. the last he came over, he was here 20 minutes.

 

So I ended it.

 

This. I'm not a big fan of ONS either. I'd rather have FWB. Sex is better with repeat performances. But it's not always an option, for whatever reason.

 

Sometimes the guy is just not interested in seeing you again. For whatever reason. I never ask. If I had fun, I'll contact them again. If I hear back, great, if I don't, I let it go.

 

Other times something put *me* off. So I'm not really interested in seeing the guy again.

 

The things that put me off are arbitrary. One guy wouldn't leave the next day. I told him repeatedly I had stuff to do and he needed to go, but he just lingered and lingered and it annoyed me no end.

Another was a noisy kisser. I did go out with him again, but ended up not having sex with him the second time because I was so turned off by his kissing.

Another guy I was actually interested in, but he kept asking me to come over to his place, no matter where I was. Never to meet somewhere for a drink and let things roll... always "come over". Mostly in the middle of the night. And the thing is... even if we both know that sex is what's going to happen, being booty called doesn't really work with me after we've slept together once. I like to go out for drinks first. Or at least pretend like there's a plan to do something.

 

Other guys just either were here visiting and went back, or moved away... It varies.

 

But yeah, I do prefer to keep seeing the same guy.

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Why would a relationship not be an option? I'm sure you know decent guys who want a relationship, unless it's not what you're looking for right now.

 

I also don't really understand why people have FWB's. I get that people are horny and really like sex so they do that. But what's wrong with going without sex for a while?

 

But then I realize that I may be setting a double standard. If I knew how to become FWB's with women, would I be doing that? Possibly.

 

Usually, people who get FWBs are not looking for a relationship for X reason. My situation is a little different - it's not that I'm not looking for a relationship - it's just that I don't feel like putting myself in a relationship with just anyone.

So until I meet the right one, I get FWBs.

 

There is nothing wrong with going without sex for a while.

 

What's wrong with having sex?

I'm an adult, I use protection, and everything I do is consensual.

 

I think it's a little harder for a man to get a FWB. As I stated before, women sometimes refuse to sleep with men for fear of being called a slut afterwards.

 

I found my new FWB on a website that gathers sexually open people of all sorts (fetishism, bdsm, vanilla - all are welcome)

However, given your opinion on casual sex - I would feel uncomfortable giving you the link…

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Why would a relationship not be an option? I'm sure you know decent guys who want a relationship, unless it's not what you're looking for right now.

 

I also don't really understand why people have FWB's. I get that people are horny and really like sex so they do that. But what's wrong with going without sex for a while?

 

But then I realize that I may be setting a double standard. If I knew how to become FWB's with women, would I be doing that? Possibly.

 

Do you know how incredibly hard it is to find that one person you really connect with and have them connect with you as well and want the same thing?

 

Last time I had feelings for someone, he didn't feel the same. He was coming out of a relationship that had ended due to distance. And ours, if it had come to that, was doomed to the same fate. It had a time stamp.

 

And that's the gist of it... I don't fall in love easily. So having a relationship is never going to be an easy thing, as a lot of factors will need to come into play.

 

As for the FWB question... what?? I go without sex for extended periods of time. 3 months, 6 months... it happens. But on the other hand, when I have someone who I find attractive wanting to have sex with me (and me with him, obviously), casually... why would I say no? What would be my reasoning??

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Usually, people who get FWBs are not looking for a relationship for X reason. My situation is a little different - it's not that I'm not looking for a relationship - it's just that I don't feel like putting myself in a relationship with just anyone.

So until I meet the right one, I get FWBs.

So your requirements for a relationship are lower than for a FWB?

 

What's wrong with having sex?

I'm an adult, I use protection, and everything I do is consensual.

There's nothing wrong with having sex, but you're able to go without it right? Though you're probably thinking why even bother going without sex.

 

I guess it just boils down to your core views on sex.

 

 

I think it's a little harder for a man to get a FWB. As I stated before, women sometimes refuse to sleep with men for fear of being called a slut afterwards.
I think it's much harder for a man to get a FWB than a woman. I believe it's easier for a man to get a girlfriend than a FWB. I don't have a clue how to meet women that only want sex. Though that doesn't really bug me as I'd probably start getting feelings for a girl if I see her more than a few times.

I found my new FWB on a website that gathers sexually open people of all sorts (fetishism, bdsm, vanilla - all are welcome)

However, given your opinion on casual sex - I would feel uncomfortable giving you the link…

Yeah I participated in that stuff a bit when I was younger in my very early 20's, mostly the swinger stuff. Though I never had any luck beyond a certain specific thing, MMF threesome, and quickly realized it wasn't for me. It's been almost 10 years since I was part of that scene.
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Do you know how incredibly hard it is to find that one person you really connect with and have them connect with you as well and want the same thing?

As a guy, it's damn near impossible because almost nobody wants to connect with me.

 

As a woman, I believe it's infinitely easier.

 

Last time I had feelings for someone, he didn't feel the same. He was coming out of a relationship that had ended due to distance. And ours, if it had come to that, was doomed to the same fate. It had a time stamp.

Though how many guys have had feelings for you and you didn't reciprocate?

 

I definitely know how much it sucks when you like somebody and they don't like you back. That's been the story of my life. What I don't know is what it's actually like to be desired. Women truly are lucky to be able to experience that.

And that's the gist of it... I don't fall in love easily. So having a relationship is never going to be an easy thing, as a lot of factors will need to come into play.

 

As for the FWB question... what?? I go without sex for extended periods of time. 3 months, 6 months... it happens. But on the other hand, when I have someone who I find attractive wanting to have sex with me (and me with him, obviously), casually... why would I say no? What would be my reasoning??

Have you tried to get into relationships with the hot guys? Or did they just want you for sex? Or did you just want them for their bodies? ;)

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