Is the slut-shaming as bad as the male virgin shaming?

February 6, 2014

Nice inputs and yes it's very bad that shaming someone for their sexual life or lack of it won't ever go away.

By the way Editbee, I've read your post about your meetup with your ex in September and I must say he must be really desperate. True, what a shame he didn't realize what you're really like instead of cheating on you. Being cheated on this greatly 2 years later by his fiance must have really gotten to him.

I'm assuming society and past peer pressure along with the gay mocking partly must have played a role in his cheating later on. I think he wanted to be a different man and though he did lose it in the more serious way (not on a random encounter like some guys do), he was probably struggling from the beginning.

Yes, it's sad that it took him this long to realize I wouldn't have mind if he had told me from the start I'm a virgin and nervous about it and what he went through in HS. Well now that I'm thinking, there were certain signs of him being a virgin such as taking 3 months to have sex with me and being very enthusiastic in bed and going a bit fast, as if he were overly happy. Interesting how I couldn't figure it out at the time that it was his first time and I was just thinking something like He's just waiting and is happy. At the time I was only with 1 other man before him and still felt like a virgin too. I think that's why I couldn't tell but now I think I would and still wouldn't mind.

Edited February 6, 2014 by Editbee

February 6, 2014

Your second-hand information from a third party that is unsubstantiated really has no validity. I posted two studies here, not to mention many other studies cited, which demonstrates that both promiscuity and infidelity are associated with the same personality traits. Unless you can actually post peer reviewed studies with an even greater sample population than what I posted to refute what those studies said, I'll believe the studies I've read. What your source says cannot be believed. It's just heresay, and has no validity.

Why does it have no validity? She clearly has the academic background to make such a statement. Just because she isn't a member on this site doesn't mean it's not valid.

Your study is associating personslity types with certain behaviours- not associating the two behaviours as 'one going with the other'.

There are no studies supporting that promiscuous people are also cheaters which was my point all along.

February 6, 2014

There's no truth to that generalization. There is no correlation between promiscuity before marriage and frequency of sex with a spouse after marriage. I have never seen a study that showed any such correlation. Studies show there is, however, a correlation between promiscuity before marriage and infidelity after marriage.

Here you are mentionning studies showing correlation between promiscuity and infidelity and you have yet to post any of these so called studies.

Your Big Five study links personality and promiscuity/infidelity.

Correlation means that your two variables - in this case promiscuity and infidelity - are dependent - one doesn't go without the other.

Edited February 6, 2014 by GoreSP

February 6, 2014

Why does it have no validity? She clearly has the academic background to make such a statement. Just because she isn't a member on this site doesn't mean it's not valid.

Your study is associating personslity types with certain behaviours- not associating the two behaviours as 'one going with the other'.

There are no studies supporting that promiscuous people are also cheaters which was my point all along.

Your claim of what this person says has no validity because it's just heresay. He said, she said. For all we know, this person doesn't even exist. Unless you can post an actual study done that would back up your claim, your claim that there is no correlation cannot be substantiated.

The study I posted links certain personality charaacteristics (impulsivity, extrovertion, low conscientiousness and low agreeableness) with both promiscuity and infidelity.

February 6, 2014

Your claim of what this person says has no validity because it's just heresay. He said, she said. For all we know, this person doesn't even exist. Unless you can post an actual study done that would back up your claim, your claim that there is no correlation cannot be substantiated.

The study I posted links certain personality charaacteristics (impulsivity, extrovertion, low conscientiousness and low agreeableness) with both promiscuity and infidelity.

YOU said studies showed correlation between promiscuity and infidelity. I said there were none.

You posted a study that linked personality characterists with both behaviours. NOT a study that shows correlation between the two behaviours.

Correlation is one necessarily involves the other. So you would need a study that shows people who are promiscuous also cheated. Not a study saying 'people with this personality sometimes do that'.

What I would like to know is how am I supposed to post a study supporting the fact that there are no studies supporting the fact that there is no correlation between infidelity and promiscuity?

And fine. There she is.

Human Sexuality Research Laboratory

February 6, 2014

And here's her master's thesis: comparing highly sexual women with less sexual women.

Published and all.

http://www.sexlifecanada.ca/sites/default/files/sex-research/Wentland_highly%20sexual%20women.pdf

Though her study did not go anywhere near infidelity.

She also mentions on page 178

There has been limited research on highly sexual
women and these studies have typically focused
on only a few differentiating variables, such as
attitudes to casual sex or number of sex partners.

February 6, 2014

As a reminder, LoveShack is a layperson discussion site designed to foster discussion, share personal experience and resolve member's personal relationship issues. There are sites devoted to academic and professional discussions and we encourage members who enjoy such discussions and debates to do so in those venues. 'Scholarly debate', as a discussion tone, is encouraged here; we also encourage the content to remain at the personal, member, level.

So, let's get back to member opinions about the topic and move away from arguing whose surveys/studies are more valid or 'better'. Thanks!

Edited to add, if members wish to debate with moderation publicly, the cost of that process is 1/2 the points to suspension per iteration. In support of moderation's statement here, I'll return members to the topic:

"As a woman I find them both equally unfair. Why so too many people even care about someone's sex life or lack of it? Whether it's out of personal choice or not, I think it's really none of their business.

A couple days ago, my ex bf whom I was contacted way back in Sept of last year, called me drunkenly and confessed that I was one he lost his virginity to and that's why he can't never forget me and asked for a friendship that day. This is the same ex bf I made a post on:

Cheating ex bf contacting me 5 years later"

Feel free to debate me in public but do so at your own peril. Comments concluded

Edited February 6, 2014 by William

February 7, 2014

Look, I'm a guy who has never had sex, heck never even kissed a girl (I'm almost 26). I would have a problem dating a woman who had more than 5 sexual partners. Mostly because I would feel inferior. Why would a woman who had her pick of the litter want a loser like me? There's zero chance that any relationship between would ever work out. As soon as someone better came along that would be the end of it.

I used to get upset when I read or heard statements by women that they'd never date an inexperienced man. But thinking logically here, why should they date an inexperienced guy? There are plenty of men who are not players but are still experienced. They know how to have sex, they know how to have a relationship, they know how to make a woman feel good (not only sexually, but generally). Inexperienced men, in general, don't have those qualities. Sure, you could teach them, but that's a project that not many people have the patience for. Plus these men are going to have a ton of baggage from many years of not having any woman interested in them.

So, I'm not saying anyone should be made fun of for their sex lives, but I definitely understand why women aren't interested in virgin men. Inexperienced men are just not good bets...

February 7, 2014

I rarely post but this is a topic close to my heart.

In all honesty, I do sometimes look at a guy who is a virgin over a certain age with some curiosity. I'll wonder if he's gay, if he's awkward, or if he's spiritual/religious. I'm not gonna pretend that I understand it completely.

I dated a guy who had 3 sexual partners and I even wondered about that. He felt very guilty about losing his virginity at age 19 to a woman he barely knew. He seemed to have a lot of hangups about sex and general discomfort with it.

I just wish people would become comfortable with sex and embrace that it's a part of life. We have a very twisted culture where sex is shamed, degraded and seen as gross, but violence is heralded, applauded, encouraged, and seen as entertainment.

Killing is cool, but sex is baaaaaad.

This is so backwards, if you ask me. This to me is a product of male domination. So what we have ended up with, is an unbalanced culture.

The whole idea of women trading sex for love is outdated too.

I wish men would stop telling women how to be women. We don't tell lions how to be lions, we don't tell chickens how to be chickens, but we steady tell women how to be women and men how to be men (while pretending that it's NOT for our own personal gain)

Scientific research has supported the theory that humans are naturally promiscuous, and that we were not originally designed for long term monogamy in our hunter-gatherer days. And to this day,there are still tribes that exist that follow the original polygamous/polyganous model.

If you have to shame, force, prod, coax and threaten someone into doing something (such as abstinence), maybe it wasn't meant for them in the first place.

We try to domesticate other humans the way we domesticate dogs and cats.

February 7, 2014

I am away from home. I went to the beach yesterday. I saw three girls there that looked hreatd/ I mean, great bodies!@! So I went up to them. I didn't really get the sense that they were hot for me, but there wasn't really much else around for me or them (threy were locals).

It was really easy. Most women.........I thunk, are very promiscuous. I got two of them to go bacj with me to the htel and we had sex/ It was really good. Blow jobs, anal, upside down poundimng....!!!!! They were all for it!

OMG!!!!!! women aer such sluts!!!!!

February 7, 2014

I am away from home. I went to the beach yesterday. I saw three girls there that looked hreatd/ I mean, great bodies!@! So I went up to them. I didn't really get the sense that they were hot for me, but there wasn't really much else around for me or them (threy were locals).

It was really easy. Most women.........I thunk, are very promiscuous. I got two of them to go bacj with me to the htel and we had sex/ It was really good. Blow jobs, anal, upside down poundimng....!!!!! They were all for it!

OMG!!!!!! women aer such sluts!!!!!

That's great!

I had a threesome with Kate Upton and Katy Perry last night. I just called them both Kate so I didn't have to remember which one was which

February 8, 2014

My question to women is: Why worry about the opinion of one man about your promiscuous activity if plenty of men are available that want you no matter what you have done?

February 8, 2014

My question to women is: Why worry about the opinion of one man about your promiscuous activity if plenty of men are available that want you no matter what you have done?

I understand what you are trying to say. As far as I am concerned, the issue is not what one man would think of me. I would never be able to be with a man who has such a limited opinion of sex - therefore I chose partners that are open minded and they usually don't have a bad opinion on women's number of partners

Actually to be honest, I can't remember a partner ever asking me how many men I slept with before him. When this was first posted I had to go back and count because I didn't even know myself.

While I agree that one person has a right to their standards when choosing a partner it's not the matter here.

What I think is wrong is this mentality of 'women shouldn't be having more sex than I think they should'.

Comments like women who are promiscuous/have a lot of partners are more likely to cheat, these women are sluts etc is hurtful to women and their sexuality.

Also, by reading some threads here, you can clearly see that the men who are disgusted' by women's sexuality are also the one getting frustrated when the woman they are with isn't sleeping with them 'fast enough for their taste'.

I'm not much of a feminist but this is one battle I'm not willing to let go of. No one gets to judge me because they don't agree with my sex life.

February 8, 2014

My question to women is: Why worry about the opinion of one man about your promiscuous activity if plenty of men are available that want you no matter what you have done?

You could pose a question like this so many ways...

<My question to Jews is: Why worry about Hitler's opinion about your affluent ways if there are plenty of people who like you no matter what you have done?

<My question to Blacks is: Why worry about popular opinion about your lack of intelligence when there are plenty of people who like you no matter how unintelligent you are?

The reason why we 'worry" is because it actually affects people's lives.

February 8, 2014

You could pose a question like this so many ways...

<My question to Jews is: Why worry about Hitler's opinion about your affluent ways if there are plenty of people who like you no matter what you have done?

<My question to Blacks is: Why worry about popular opinion about your lack of intelligence when there are plenty of people who like you no matter how unintelligent you are?

The reason why we 'worry" is because it actually affects people's lives.

In terms of dating why but you wont answer but give two scenarios that have only one commonality with the discussion and that is fear.

February 8, 2014

I rarely post but this is a topic close to my heart.

In all honesty, I do sometimes look at a guy who is a virgin over a certain age with some curiosity. I'll wonder if he's gay, if he's awkward, or if he's spiritual/religious. I'm not gonna pretend that I understand it completely.

I dated a guy who had 3 sexual partners and I even wondered about that. He felt very guilty about losing his virginity at age 19 to a woman he barely knew. He seemed to have a lot of hangups about sex and general discomfort with it.

I just wish people would become comfortable with sex and embrace that it's a part of life. We have a very twisted culture where sex is shamed, degraded and seen as gross, but violence is heralded, applauded, encouraged, and seen as entertainment.

Killing is cool, but sex is baaaaaad.

This is so backwards, if you ask me. This to me is a product of male domination. So what we have ended up with, is an unbalanced culture.

The whole idea of women trading sex for love is outdated too.

I wish men would stop telling women how to be women. We don't tell lions how to be lions, we don't tell chickens how to be chickens, but we steady tell women how to be women and men how to be men (while pretending that it's NOT for our own personal gain)

Scientific research has supported the theory that humans are naturally promiscuous, and that we were not originally designed for long term monogamy in our hunter-gatherer days. And to this day,there are still tribes that exist that follow the original polygamous/polyganous model.

If you have to shame, force, prod, coax and threaten someone into doing something (such as abstinence), maybe it wasn't meant for them in the first place.

We try to domesticate other humans the way we domesticate dogs and cats.

My theory on this is that male virgins over age 25 (for example) are quite rare, probably around 5% or less. And on the flip side, promiscuous men and women are also rare. There was a recent study that said 20% of people aged 25-35 hadn't had sex in the past month. So most people are somewhere in the middle of those two extremes.

In any case there are a few sociological phenomena that have contributed to the "rise" (if there is such a rise) in male virgins. For one, men don't go into many dangerous fields anymore (such as the military or dangerous factory work, or agricultural work), mostly because of technological progress and the fact that we don't conscript civilians into the military for war anymore. It's not that there are more virgin men, it's just that they're alive now instead of dying at 21, for example.

Back to your main point about sex and it being shamed. I think you'll find that most men who are older and inexperienced don't view sex as dirty. Most desperately want sex (and often want a relationship along with it) it's just that for some reason they have been unable to form any kind of connection with women they are interested in dating. And for some reason women don't seem to be interested in them. Most of their efforts in that arena have fallen short for some reason or another. Leading to a learned helplessness that is sometimes (often?) accompanied by frustration.

It's for this reason that women are best advised to avoid the older inexperienced men. It's not that these men aren't going to be good at sex, nor is it that they aren't going to be good at building and maintaining relationships. If you can responsibly own a pet, have friends, or be on speaking terms with your family, you can fairly easily pick up the ins and outs of a romantic relationship. The problem is unlearning your gut instinct that women don't want anything to do with you. And relearning that your girlfriend (and perhaps one day, wife) not only is ok with you kissing her or holding her hand or whatever else, but actually wants you to do those things. It's really something that is hard to do. I know a lot of women probably don't have the patience to work with that. And I honestly don't blame them. There's a lot of decent men out there, it makes little sense to stick with a long term project...

February 8, 2014

Both genders have their grievances. Have any of you ever thought about some of the issues from the side of the opposite gender? Honestly how would you really feel about it? When one examines it a lot of the issues have a basis in reality. The woman has sex too early and is dumped. The man waits too long and realizes she was just using him for attention and was having sex with someone else the whole time. The player has more than one woman and lies to everyone of them. The one in discussion: The woman with a history of promiscuity gets in a relationship and cheats on her partner.

All of these scenarios at some point in your life you have heard of someone you know or even you experiencing it. It's easy from the other side to say promiscuity doesn't mean a woman will cheat. It's hard to believe as a man when you have heard of or experienced reality based evidence that proves otherwise. Woman would you believe a guy that is a player can be honest? Majority will answer no and the reason is there is reality based evidence to support this. Women have you ever consider why a man would think it correlated? Have you ever considered that at some point he knows of, heard of, or even experienced a woman with that type of history being unfaithful? It's not about being intimidated by a woman's sexuality. It's the same fears you have about players or being sexual too early and that is being hurt.

Funny thing the thing that hurts us is often out of our control so we find a way to have some control so we won't be hurt again. Control means making a man wait, rejecting men that multidate, red flags that indicated potential golddigger, and women whose sexual history we deem as not compatible with ours. I know you say what about the insults. Well what about what women say about men who date more than one woman. Scum, dirtbag, dog, etc all come to mind and guess what they are all insults. The real reason is not the insults but the reality that if enough men know her history and deemed non relationship material and potentially she can be lonely, but this is not the case. There are men out here that are accepting. Hell I lost my virginity to a married woman known as "The Wal-Mart Whore". She was an employee at Wal-Mart and she was unashamed of her sexual past. Hell if you got to know her you knew about it. Her husband was jealous of her because of her past and she did that in the present.

Another example would be a woman I know. She is a nice person but has a lot of trouble with men. She told me about her history. She is very promiscuous to the point of doing gang bangs. Her problem is the drama she brings and the fact she wants a relationship but the men find out about what she likes to do. She does it while she is single so it shouldn't be a problem. What man wants a woman to be in a relationship with that does gangbangs? Women if you were a man would you and be honest? Just like women want to protect themselves men want to protect themselves too. What is the problem with that?

At the end of the day perception is everything. No one care the context of what you did because it's the fact you did it. Some women don't care that a man multidated or had sex with multiple women and was honest. They care that he was with multiple women and gets seen as bad for that no matter the context. In that same way men are about sexual promiscuity in regards to women. It's not about whether or not you were single. It's the fact that you did it and it strikes up that fear of potentially being hurt by someone and the fact that they are heard stories or know of someone that was hurt by a woman that was promiscuous. You can say on some level it's a good intentioned thing for men but just get misused a lot kind of like women calling guys creeps.

February 8, 2014

I understand what you are trying to say. As far as I am concerned, the issue is not what one man would think of me. I would never be able to be with a man who has such a limited opinion of sex - therefore I chose partners that are open minded and they usually don't have a bad opinion on women's number of partners

Actually to be honest, I can't remember a partner ever asking me how many men I slept with before him. When this was first posted I had to go back and count because I didn't even know myself.

While I agree that one person has a right to their standards when choosing a partner it's not the matter here.

What I think is wrong is this mentality of 'women shouldn't be having more sex than I think they should'.

Comments like women who are promiscuous/have a lot of partners are more likely to cheat, these women are sluts etc is hurtful to women and their sexuality.

Also, by reading some threads here, you can clearly see that the men who are disgusted' by women's sexuality are also the one getting frustrated when the woman they are with isn't sleeping with them 'fast enough for their taste'.

I'm not much of a feminist but this is one battle I'm not willing to let go of. No one gets to judge me because they don't agree with my sex life.

It maybe be hurtful but it has a basis in reality.

February 8, 2014

It maybe be hurtful but it has a basis in reality.

Doesn't mean we can't fight to make this change.

February 8, 2014

Doesn't mean we can't fight to make this change.

Think about it from the man's point of view. Would you even take the risk?

No how about this you meet a man that is known as a player but says he reformed and was honest with all his women. Would you take the risk of dating and pursuing a relationship with him? How about a guy with a revelation of performing sexual acts with men in the past? I bet you would say no to these questions because of your perception of these scenarios. You can fight all you want to change it but it won't do a thing. If you want to fight then men have the right to fight all the negative connotations that women have about them that have a basis in reality.

You can't ever change the minds of people about something that is based in reality. All you can do is not be the stereotype yourself. You also have to check your own gender. They perform this behavior and call other women sluts just as much as men so you can't fight with just men.

February 8, 2014

Both genders have their grievances. Have any of you ever thought about some of the issues from the side of the opposite gender? Honestly how would you really feel about it? When one examines it a lot of the issues have a basis in reality. The woman has sex too early and is dumped. The man waits too long and realizes she was just using him for attention and was having sex with someone else the whole time. The player has more than one woman and lies to everyone of them. The one in discussion: The woman with a history of promiscuity gets in a relationship and cheats on her partner.

All of these scenarios at some point in your life you have heard of someone you know or even you experiencing it. It's easy from the other side to say promiscuity doesn't mean a woman will cheat. It's hard to believe as a man when you have heard of or experienced reality based evidence that proves otherwise. Woman would you believe a guy that is a player can be honest? Majority will answer no and the reason is there is reality based evidence to support this. Women have you ever consider why a man would think it correlated? Have you ever considered that at some point he knows of, heard of, or even experienced a woman with that type of history being unfaithful? It's not about being intimidated by a woman's sexuality. It's the same fears you have about players or being sexual too early and that is being hurt.

Funny thing the thing that hurts us is often out of our control so we find a way to have some control so we won't be hurt again. Control means making a man wait, rejecting men that multidate, red flags that indicated potential golddigger, and women whose sexual history we deem as not compatible with ours. I know you say what about the insults. Well what about what women say about men who date more than one woman. Scum, dirtbag, dog, etc all come to mind and guess what they are all insults. The real reason is not the insults but the reality that if enough men know her history and deemed non relationship material and potentially she can be lonely, but this is not the case. There are men out here that are accepting. Hell I lost my virginity to a married woman known as "The Wal-Mart Whore". She was an employee at Wal-Mart and she was unashamed of her sexual past. Hell if you got to know her you knew about it. Her husband was jealous of her because of her past and she did that in the present.

Another example would be a woman I know. She is a nice person but has a lot of trouble with men. She told me about her history. She is very promiscuous to the point of doing gang bangs. Her problem is the drama she brings and the fact she wants a relationship but the men find out about what she likes to do. She does it while she is single so it shouldn't be a problem. What man wants a woman to be in a relationship with that does gangbangs? Women if you were a man would you and be honest? Just like women want to protect themselves men want to protect themselves too. What is the problem with that?

At the end of the day perception is everything. No one care the context of what you did because it's the fact you did it. Some women don't care that a man multidated or had sex with multiple women and was honest. They care that he was with multiple women and gets seen as bad for that no matter the context. In that same way men are about sexual promiscuity in regards to women. It's not about whether or not you were single. It's the fact that you did it and it strikes up that fear of potentially being hurt by someone and the fact that they are heard stories or know of someone that was hurt by a woman that was promiscuous. You can say on some level it's a good intentioned thing for men but just get misused a lot kind of like women calling guys creeps.

I will reiterate this point to woman that want to fight to make a change on something based in actual reality. It's about self preservation people protecting themselves. Women you protect yourself from players and shady men and insult these type of men. Is this honestly no different?

February 8, 2014

Think about it from the man's point of view. Would you even take the risk?

No how about this you meet a man that is known as a player but says he reformed and was honest with all his women. Would you take the risk of dating and pursuing a relationship with him? How about a guy with a revelation of performing sexual acts with men in the past? I bet you would say no to these questions because of your perception of these scenarios. You can fight all you want to change it but it won't do a thing. If you want to fight then men have the right to fight all the negative connotations that women have about them that have a basis in reality.

You can't ever change the minds of people about something that is based in reality. All you can do is not be the stereotype yourself. You also have to check your own gender. They perform this behavior and call other women sluts just as much as men so you can't fight with just men.

A man who has a lot of partners and is honest with all this partners is not a player. So yes, I would totally start a relationship with this kind of man.

A reformed player? Why not. I would just be more attentive to possible red flags.

I would totally have a relationship with a man who is bisexual because I already have.

I never said only slut shaming women is bad and I never said a woman slut shaming another one was ok. My stance is against slut shaming period.

I'd like to remind you that homosexuality was considered a mental illness until the 70s. People stood up against it and it is now an accepted sexual orientation. Some people don't like it but it is not 'politically correct' to shame homosexuals because of their choice of partner.

February 8, 2014

I will reiterate this point to woman that want to fight to make a change on something based in actual reality. It's about self preservation people protecting themselves. Women you protect yourself from players and shady men and insult these type of men. Is this honestly no different?

Players and shady men hurt people's feelings. They lie, cheat and manipulate the women they are with.

A promiscuous women won't do that. In some case she will be a player,sure, but you are mixing two behaviors here. Being promiscuous and being a player are two different things

By all means, don't date women with a promiscuous past - it's your choice.

All this 'value' is that you would be disgusted by a woman who has more partners than you think she should. To extrapolate this and decide all women who do this are bad is what I am fighting against.

February 8, 2014

A man who has a lot of partners and is honest with all this partners is not a player. So yes, I would totally start a relationship with this kind of man.
A reformed player? Why not. I would just be more attentive to possible red flags.
I would totally have a relationship with a man who is bisexual because I already have.

I never said only slut shaming women is bad and I never said a woman slut shaming another one was ok. My stance is against slut shaming period.

I'd like to remind you that homosexuality was considered a mental illness until the 70s. People stood up against it and it is now an accepted sexual orientation. Some people don't like it but it is not 'politically correct' to shame homosexuals because of their choice of partner.

slut shaming lol. Funny thing is I never heard the term until I came up here. If you feel shame for something you did then you hide it. If you refuse to reveal what made you at this moment in time then you are slut shaming yourself. Everyone has opinions about things. Hell pornstars get married but mainly that is because they are honest and meet people that are compatible with them. Are you truly compatible with someone if you have to hide aspects of yourself? Are you truly compatible with someone if you meet someone that brings out that fear that is on some level based in reality? There are promiscuous women that cheat just like there are men that lie and no man or woman is wanting to take the chance on them.

How about his address the long post I wrote and reiterated and then we talk. OK!

February 8, 2014

slut shaming lol. Funny thing is I never heard the term until I came up here. If you feel shame for something you did then you hide it. If you refuse to reveal what made you at this moment in time then you are slut shaming yourself. Everyone has opinions about things. Hell pornstars get married but mainly that is because they are honest and meet people that are compatible with them. Are you truly compatible with someone if you have to hide aspects of yourself? Are you truly compatible with someone if you meet someone that brings out that fear that is on some level based in reality? There are promiscuous women that cheat just like there are men that lie and no man or woman is wanting to take the chance on them.

How about his address the long post I wrote and reiterated and then we talk. OK!

I am not ashamed of my sexual past and I'm not sure how you got that I was…

Slut shaming is the term used to define the tendency that people have of calling another woman who has a lot of partners a slut.

Of course, some promiscuous women cheat. Some non-promiscuous women cheat too.

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