Author MrNate 2.0 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Why do men so loosely weild the word "crazy"? I feel it's simply done to abdicate responsibility. Sure some women (and men) are just plain nuts. Usually though, the woman has a pretty reasonable/logical reason to be angry. Sure, they may be more emotional or what not, but they're not dumb. Chances are usually they were provoked in someway. Then given the crazy tag, so the guy can avoid owning up. 4
Woggle Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Do you secretly dislike your date/gf's cat and only pretend to be nice to it? No because it was my cat first. I like cats and men who do are not as rare as you think. 1
sweetjasmine Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Why do men so loosely weild the word "crazy"? And on a related note, why do some fellas insist that they're always being logical when they can be irrational and emotional, too? 1
Woggle Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Sometimes the word crazy fits. I never used it on a woman without good reason. 1
Author MrNate 2.0 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 And on a related note, why do some fellas insist that they're always being logical when they can be irrational and emotional, too? I'd call that a conflict with conditioning. Most are raised to be the 'strong' 'reliable' 'unphased' one, but even so, humans as a whole are emotional creatures. Telling some men that they have characteristics conflicting with their conditioning take a shot at the ego. (Me? Emotional? I'm not a woman, etc.) When in reality, it's perfectly ok to be filled with emotion and still be masculine. It's not a weakness. It's nature. 3
todreaminblue Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Then why even bother with women? Why not either date guys or just not date anyone? i think when men are jaded it takes just one good woman to turn them around......to show them that not all women are the same....i also think it goes the opposite way...i think its pretty idealistic of me to think this way.......but......i feel it stands true.......deb
Woggle Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 i think when men are jaded it takes just one good woman to turn them around......to show them that not all women are the same....i also think it goes the opposite way...i think its pretty idealistic of me to think this way.......but......i feel it stands true.......deb Exactly. Why don't people understand that sometimes men and women rant about each other but don't really hate the opposite sex?
todreaminblue Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Exactly. Why don't people understand that sometimes men and women rant about each other but don't really hate the opposite sex? with that ranting however i think you have to see a balance of possibility in with all the negative........when rants become completely gender bias and sexually discriminate...then i dont think that is a really healthy outlet.....deb 1
veggirl Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Do you secretly dislike your date/gf's cat and only pretend to be nice to it? I've always gotten confessions later on that they don't actually like my cat tbh I always figured they were jealous cause I give her a lot if attention. Not that I ignore them or anything but I also don't ignore her just cause a guy is over. 1
EasyHeart Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Why do men so loosely weild the word "crazy"?Because we don't understand you. Men are trained to suppress their emotions. In fact, among men demonstrating emotions will usually result in other men ostracizing you. The only acceptable emotion in Guy World is anger, and that has to be channeled appropriately, ie at someone who directly wronged you. Women have a far more complex way of interacting with each other, and men either (a) don't realize it exists or (b) look at it in complete bewilderment. To us, your way of interacting with other people often makes no sense. For instance, women tend to speak obliquely or "give hints" to what they want. That makes no sense in Guy World. If you want something, say so. You'll never hear one guy talking to another and saying "So what do you think she really means?" We say what we mean, so it makes no sense to us when women say one thing and mean another. It makes you seem crazy because we can't see the connection between your statement and what you want us to do. 1
shexy Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Exactly. Why don't people understand that sometimes men and women rant about each other but don't really hate the opposite sex? I get that, but I make it a point not to make broad generalizations and lump all guys into one category. And I try not to just hurl insults out there for no reason. I guess I just find it really off-putting that a certain group of men find the need to put down women so often when they post. This is NOT the first thread I've noticed it in. I guess I just wonder why men that seem to be so negative toward women post on a dating board.
Woggle Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I get that, but I make it a point not to make broad generalizations and lump all guys into one category. And I try not to just hurl insults out there for no reason. I guess I just find it really off-putting that a certain group of men find the need to put down women so often when they post. This is NOT the first thread I've noticed it in. I guess I just wonder why men that seem to be so negative toward women post on a dating board. Because the anonymity of the internet allows men to vent without social consequences. The internet is the male version of sitting around eating ice cream and talking about how all men are dogs.
Pompeii Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 And on a related note, why do some fellas insist that they're always being logical when they can be irrational and emotional, too? In my experience, men have a much better ability to think with a higher logic-to-emotion ratio than women. Both sexes have the ability to think logically, I just find that men have a better ability to remove themselves and be more objective. 1
sweetjasmine Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Telling some men that they have characteristics conflicting with their conditioning take a shot at the ego. (Me? Emotional? I'm not a woman, etc.) When in reality, it's perfectly ok to be filled with emotion and still be masculine. Do you fellas personally ever feel comfortable enough to let your guard down and admit that you have vulnerabilities and feelings? How exhausting is it to have to be "masculine" all the time and suppress some natural traits? Is it a relief when you find someone you can trust enough to show your vulnerable side? 2
Star Gazer Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I feel it's simply done to abdicate responsibility. Sure some women (and men) are just plain nuts. Usually though, the woman has a pretty reasonable/logical reason to be angry. Sure, they may be more emotional or what not, but they're not dumb. Chances are usually they were provoked in someway. Then given the crazy tag, so the guy can avoid owning up. G-D BLESS YOU, MR. NATE! Thank you, for having the courage to speak the truth!!! :bunny: 6
Woggle Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Do you fellas personally ever feel comfortable enough to let your guard down and admit that you have vulnerabilities and feelings? How exhausting is it to have to be "masculine" all the time and suppress some natural traits? Is it a relief when you find someone you can trust enough to show your vulnerable side? It is a relief when you find somebody you trust enough to show it but in this world showing it to the wrong person can get you eaten alive. I wish it wasn't that way but that is the kind of society we live in. It's not just relationships. When I go into board meetings with some of the people my company does business with I have my poker face on but I am not like that with my wife. I know those people will stick the knife in my back the minute they get the chance. 2
Author MrNate 2.0 Posted June 16, 2013 Author Posted June 16, 2013 Do you fellas personally ever feel comfortable enough to let your guard down and admit that you have vulnerabilities and feelings? How exhausting is it to have to be "masculine" all the time and suppress some natural traits? Is it a relief when you find someone you can trust enough to show your vulnerable side? It's a pain in the ass to deal with. Especially when men are supposed to be strong all the time. Feeling emotions is so natural, that's why it's exhausting when having to try and manage it. That's another amazing thing we love about women. It's acceptable with them. So there is that opportunity to show that side, and they will understand 100%. Rather than showing it to a man and being told to 'not be a bitch' or something like that, when the guy could be legitimately hurting. Women are amazing. 7
Pompeii Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Do you fellas personally ever feel comfortable enough to let your guard down and admit that you have vulnerabilities and feelings? How exhausting is it to have to be "masculine" all the time and suppress some natural traits? Is it a relief when you find someone you can trust enough to show your vulnerable side? As a man, the minute you show vulnerability is the minute you're dead meat.
eastcoastgirl88 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I have a question: What is your biggest weakness when it comes to the opposite sex? What should women capitalize on when seducing a man? PS thanks for doing this thread, it's very enlightening! 2
sweetjasmine Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Rather than showing it to a man and being told to 'not be a bitch' or something like that, when the guy could be legitimately hurting. Do you guys tend to be like this with your good friends? If your best friend or brother came to you legitimately hurting, would you be more likely to empathize and lend an ear or tell him to stop being a "bitch"? Where do you draw the line between telling another guy to suck it up and validating his feelings? Do you ever wish other men would stop being dismissive of each other's feelings? Or do you think there's some value to this kind of behavior?
ThaWholigan Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Do you fellas personally ever feel comfortable enough to let your guard down and admit that you have vulnerabilities and feelings? How exhausting is it to have to be "masculine" all the time and suppress some natural traits? Is it a relief when you find someone you can trust enough to show your vulnerable side? Yeah, its uncomfortable. You never know who is going to take advantage of it at that time, and its difficult when you don't have the support network to be able to do so - sometimes even amongst friends you have to maintain stoicism and composure. I don't know if I suppress my natural traits - I find that I've found it easier to fall into my natural cycle without having to put up a front. Took a long time to get comfortable.
Eggplant Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 They do much more than men do.What about in the workplace? Do men back each other more than women?
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