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Apologizing for my earlier post...sorry all. Couldn't let such bias and vitriolic enmity go w/o some response.

 

Anyway, this post got me thinking...

 

What if a guy or woman has a job he/she loves? Let's say that the degree of ambition that that job allows for is mostly parallel advancement, but it's clear that he/she is doing more to contribute to the workplace b/c he/she loves what he/she does. Would this be enough for such ladies?

 

Does there have to be promotions, advancement w/ pay to show that a guy is ambitious? Or does ambition also include being active, creative, etc. ?

 

Hmmm... I guess it depends on the woman. Most women want a man with money. It's how society measures success (kind of the like leader of the lion tribe, it's the strongest lion who can fight off all the others). In this case, money is the unit of measurement for dominance or success in a male.

 

I would say that if "this is it", if the guys absolutely loves his job but there is no potential for promotions or "moving up" the corporate ladder, women will assume he just settled for this lifestyle and assume he is not ambitious. He may be ambitions in other aspects, but if a man isn't ambitious when it comes to money, most women translate it to not being ambitious to become successful, so they aren't likely to date a guy like that.

 

And like I said, if a man isn't ambitious to be successful, then most women will assume he is hitting on them because he is also settling for what kind of woman he wants.

 

I guess most women link this quality to all aspects. If a man is ambitious, he is ambitious in everything (getting best job, getting best woman etc). If he's not ambitious, it's not exactly a compliment if he hits on her because it's not like he's fighting for the best. This is the mentality most women will have.

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That is because you never gave her anything she wants and doesn't need.

 

You didn't give her a cell phone like the sheer majority of middle-school kids have, you didn't give her a vehicle in high school without her having to earn it.

 

So I'm not surprised that she is turning out the way you expected.

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Well whoa back- she's only three and a half!

 

BUT I am very aware of not raising a brat, so am trying hard not to.

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You shouldn't be hated for it, but alot of women aren't happy with having a man with that job AND they arent happy having a man who doesn't want MORE.

 

Women, in general, want amibitious men. Ambition, in my opinion, is very attractive in a guy. If a guy is satisfied with having so little (so little as in if the woman thinks your job is "low") then she isn't likely to date you.

 

I think some women also feel insecure about it. As in, "if hes happy with such a **** job of COURSE he will be all over a woman like me". A lot of women think like this. It's more of a compliment when an ambitious man who only wants the best goes after them, because they feel better automatically since it's a "higher" man who wants them.

 

Just my two cents.

 

mmm I don't know.

 

I have a good job and make very good money. When I used to talk about it, I was accused of "bragging." So now I just avoid the topic and try to have as much fun as possible. Of course, I tell them what I do, but I generally only do it in passing and change the subject quickly.

 

I find that if a woman is attracted to you, nothing else about you really matters all that much.

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But since you injected politics, it is clear that you are hostile to Obama. It is also clear that you and your choice Romney were and are out of touch. You call him the welfare president, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you also mean welfare given to large corporations, the rich, etc. Entitlements, right?

 

Oh please. I don't even bother voting. I don't like either of the candidates for what it is worth.

 

My mother went on and voted for Obama only because he's black and she is content with the welfare checks she gets while doing absolutely nothing but play computer games. Just goes to show how stupid she really is in the long run.

 

Also, what do you mean by welfare given to large corporations? Hard to call it that when they are working and the ones who gets the bigger portion of the benefits is sitting at home crying foul and begging for more.

 

Hell, I'm getting part of this and I don't even want it. I rather work for what I want, not given to me on a silver platter.

 

When I left my only job due to lack of hours, I was better off unemployed than to actually work. That doesn't make any sense. That shouldn't have happened.

 

I would love to hear your reasons for calling Obama the Welfare president. It's likely you'll mention healthcare reform, taxes that much of the middle class and lower don't pay (existed long before he came into office and perpetuated by Bush Jr.)...Obama is less than perfect, but have you been keeping up with the waste, corruption over the past 20+ years from both sides? Likely not...

 

1. Increased number of government hand-outs.

2. Far less middle-class jobs being available.

3. Far more entry-level jobs that pay basically nothing is being available.

4. College costs is, frankly, too high for any average American to take care of. Follow this with the fact that there is far less middle-class jobs for graduates to acquire after they leave makes it a big fat trap in the end.

 

There is more but I don't feel like going any further. The country didn't get any better while he's here and, frankly, I'm sure Obama is content with that. Just because he's President doesn't mean he have to work directly for us. I'm sure Congress agrees in that matter.

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