fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The average man is not so intimidated by women. That puts your outside the norm. Whatever. The point I was making was that I do notice average women. I just assume they wouldn't be interested. That's not "ignoring them" though.
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 LOL wut? Good looking men don't get approached by women they'd ever consider dating. You're smoking crack I have friends who look like this - http://www.venicepaparazzi.com/vp/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/joey-headshot-414x552.jpg - who've never been approached by anybody half way decent looking If I do get approached, it's by an overweight drunk gal at a bar. No thanks You're either lying or you live in the Middle East. I don't look anywhere near as good as that guy and I've been approached plenty of times.
xxoo Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Thank you, thank you. I knew this would come up and it always does. The perception that guys who fail are hitting on the creme of the crop of women and ignoring 'average' women :lmao:. I think NOTHING is further from the truth. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/369954-do-you-care-what-she-wears-2.html#post4555728 Read all of my posts on page 2 of that thread. I'm pretty sure NONE of the guys here who struggle approach women of that caliber either. You named a height and weight that is "smack dab average". The height is average, but the weight is substantially off from average. Yes, that makes me question men's perception of "average". Yup. I remember her. That's pretty indicative of a woman I might like/go for. And there was another thread yesterday by a pretty average woman who said she only goes for players, pretty boys, and ignores nice average men. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/369927-how-do-you-stop-falling-wrong-type-man We don't have to make this stuff up. It's real. Those women have their own issues impeding their love life. Instead of looking at bad examples, why not look at all the average couples in the world and figure out how they managed to meet and connect? Most people manage this easily (much harder to find real and lasting love). How do they do it? What can you learn from those average men?
xxoo Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Whatever. The point I was making was that I do notice average women. I just assume they wouldn't be interested. That's not "ignoring them" though. But the men who find it easier to interact with women....most men..... how much do they notice average women?
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 You're either lying or you live in the Middle East. I don't look anywhere near as good as that guy and I've been approached plenty of times. Women get intimidated just like guys. I have been told I'm very attractive, but i seem unapproachable a lot of the time. The few times i have been approached/flirted with it has always been by a woman 3 sheets to the wind. Liquid courage.....
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Because men have no idea how to tell when a women is interested, meanwhile women are ALWAYS noticing when men notice them. I really think if men knew what to look for, they would see that women probably do give them an opening. 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 But the men who find it easier to interact with women....most men..... how much do they notice average women? I don't know. Who cares? There's plenty of guys like me who are (aside from out inability to get dates) average or better who'd be willing to date these "down on their luck" average women.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Women don't get intimidated, that's just BS Ladies? Care to tell him how wrong he is?
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The other factor here is most even moderately attractive women have a lot of options so they simply don't need to approach anybody. They can wait and get approached as much as they like. Why put in any work when you can get everything handed to you? This is based on the assumption they want those options.
Divasu Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 The other factor here is most even moderately attractive women have a lot of options so they simply don't need to approach anybody. They can wait and get approached as much as they like. Why put in any work when you can get everything handed to you? That really has nothing to do with it. Sometimes a woman will go after what she wants. What's wrong with that?
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Ladies? Care to tell him how wrong he is? I'm sure some women do. But honestly, why? They smell better, are better looking, and cooler to spend time with than men (among other things). It's like trying to understand why elephants are intimidated by mice...
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 You named a height and weight that is "smack dab average". The height is average, but the weight is substantially off from average. Yes, that makes me question men's perception of "average". Or 130. Or 135? You really think 10 or 15 lbs makes that much of a difference in what us guys who are bad with women find attractive and go for? :lmao: Lol. It's just a number I threw out. You can barely see a 10 pound difference in most clothes and you're calling me out on it?
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Fat/ugly girls don't count And no we live in a nice suburb in the states Nope. I'm talking very good looking women. Women that have the confidence to approach men. Too many to count...well...maybe if I really sat down and tried I could.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 That really has nothing to do with it. Sometimes a woman will go after what she wants. What's wrong with that? True. They often do. There's nothing wrong with it except that the biggest advantages in dating, face/height for men, and being a woman are things that we are born with. So, if you believe in Darwinism, there is nothing wrong with it. If you believe in Che Guevara, not so much.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 You don't think good looking/confident/charismatic men approach women? You miss the point, you assume that she will want the men approaching her, that's your fatal flaw. 1
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I've read your posts here and I think you make the mistake of assuming all women are like yourself. You're very confident and you have no problem in approaching somebody you like and even asking them out. You are in the big minority The other factor here is most even moderately attractive women have a lot of options so they simply don't need to approach anybody. They can wait and get approached as much as they like. Why put in any work when you can get everything handed to you? I see your point. Ok, well then maybe it is because women feel they understand men and men are baffled by women. Think about it, we don't get hit on, we already know why we haven't, we are very aware creatures [for the most part] but men seem to lack in that area. Men whine because they have no idea why things aren't working out, while women usually already KNOW why they aren't. Just a guess though, I really don't know. We do whine, but it seems to be true that we usually whine about the types of men we are attracting rather than not attracting any at all. What it boils down to is that men do have to try harder, I am not saying that us women have it so EASY, because we have our struggles too, but ultimately in society, it is up to the man to make the first move, and half the guys on here don't even seem confident enough to do that. Ladies? Care to tell him how wrong he is? About us not feeling intimidated? 100% I can name countless times I have felt like that. I am just better at playing it off well and I have learned to live by "his loss" every time rejection has happened for me, which trust me.... it has. I always handle it very well though and end up still impressing the guy. Besides, the friendly flirty banter can be fun even if it doesn't lead anywhere.
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Women are cooler to spend time with than men? LOL wut http://thelifestream.net/forums/images/smilies/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg There's a reason that 99% of men prefer having male friends and lots of women prefer having male friends. There is no way in hell that women are more interesting/more enjoyable to spend time with than men are I guess you haven't spent time with the women I have. I like playing ball or watching a big game with the guys as much as anyone else, but nothing beats sharing a meal with an interesting woman...
Divasu Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Absolutely nothing but that's in the big minority - that's my whole point Women are typically a creature of habit. It can also be situational and personality-centric. That's why the dating world hasn't really changed since 1950 - men are still expected to do absolutely everything Oh, poor you. Will a nice warm bah-bah make it better?
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 If you can't find somebody you like out of 50 men approaching you, whose fault is it? Maybe men just suck more than women do.
ThaWholigan Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Women are cooler to spend time with than men? LOL wut http://thelifestream.net/forums/images/smilies/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg There's a reason that 99% of men prefer having male friends and lots of women prefer having male friends. There is no way in hell that women are more interesting/more enjoyable to spend time with than men are You talk to the wrong women dude
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Or 130. Or 135? You really think 10 or 15 lbs makes that much of a difference in what us guys who are bad with women find attractive and go for? :lmao: Lol. It's just a number I threw out. You can barely see a 10 pound difference in most clothes and you're calling me out on it? is 135 average?!?! Well ****.
xxoo Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Or 130. Or 135? You really think 10 or 15 lbs makes that much of a difference in what us guys who are bad with women find attractive and go for? :lmao: Lol. It's just a number I threw out. You can barely see a 10 pound difference in most clothes and you're calling me out on it? For your age range (30-35, as you specified), the average weights for a 5'4" woman are 149 (at age 30) to 154 (at age 35). That is 29-34# more than what you stated as average. In percentiles, a 120# woman is in the 17th percentile at age 30, and in the 12th percentile at age 35. Not even close to average. 1
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Can you elaborate on what you're talking about? I'm kind of confused honestly Men whine more because the brunt of the work is up to them.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 If you can't find somebody you like out of 50 men approaching you, whose fault is it? lol, you should see the dip shi*s guys that approach some of my hot friends say. I'm shocked they want 1 in 200.
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Why are we using averages anyway? Shouldn't something like mode be used? If I put a 200 lb woman, a 105 lb woman and a 115 lb woman in the same room, most of the women in that room weigh 115 lbs or less, but the average weight per person is 140 lbs. So maybe average isn't something we should use to determine things. 1
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