StanMusial Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A lot of guys with a good career think they are entitled to a woman who far more attractive than themselves. It doesn't work that way. If you are saying that there are good guys out there with a career and personality who can't get women as attractive as themselves...well then I think you are wrong Well I don't know anyone who feels entitled to someone far more attractive. I'm talking about priorities more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 This thread is not about women. I date guys prob considered below my league looks-wise by other people but Im attracted to them nonetheless. My thread is about why men wont commit to a guy unless shes out of their league You are the one judging them as out of their league. Why do you believe the men are below the league of the women they married? Do you believe their wives feel the same way? Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 This thread is not about women. I date guys prob considered below my league looks-wise by other people but Im attracted to them nonetheless. My thread is about why men wont commit to a guy unless shes out of their league So if you date men below your league then why complain about men dating women above their league. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 They date a woman in their league but always hold out because they think they can do better Leagues aside, if they don't really feel it, why should they commit? Sounds awful. Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 You are the one judging them as out of their league. Why do you believe the men are below the league of the women they married? Do you believe their wives feel the same way? I said OTHER PEOPLE Link to post Share on other sites
Weezy1973 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It could very well be where you live. Men that are very focused on career and status tend to be extremely competitive on every level - who makes the most money, who has the best car, who has the best looking wife, who has the biggest summer place etc. The vast majority of men are not like that. Also, depending on your age range, the men may be more focused on building their career than getting married or starting a family. People don't move to DC or NYC to settle down. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I said OTHER PEOPLE Yes, why do you assert that these OTHER PEOPLE are mismatched? What is mismatched about them? Give examples! Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 So if you date men below your league then why complain about men dating women above their league. ? LOL are you SERIOUS? Because men are ENTItLED Link to post Share on other sites
ascendotum Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It seems like these days, more than ever, for whatever reason, women are focusing on a man's looks. Even the 30 year old guy that lives in his parent's basement and rides a scooter to his job at Blockbuster is more of a "catch" because of his handsome facial structure. And yes, I know that guy. He never tried or gave a damn really because he was always neck deep in women. Whereas, the solid, intelligent guys developed a personality and a career and became successful. Maybe they aren't as good looking, but guess what? They are a catch. As much as the unemployed or working P/T, living at home with parents & no car & no ambition guy is cited here as the bottom of the barrel forever single loser, its not necessarily the case. I've also known a few guys like this who did pretty good with the girls or knew reasonably attractive girls who dated guys like this. The guys looks and their confidence overcame those other red flags...not for the long term but that didn't phase the guys. Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yes, why do you assert that these OTHER PEOPLE are mismatched? What is mismatched about them? Give examples! No, "other people" said he was below my league lookswise. Such as "he is not cute enough for her" and "she could get somebody better looking" and so on. To which I would say I thought he was cute and I liked him. My point is OTHER PEOPLE told me he was below my league lookswise. I hadnt even THOUGHT about it I see many beautiful women with guys that arent that cute. I have never ever seen a vice versa example. Link to post Share on other sites
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I dont see this with women most of the time but I do alot with men. (However, Im not saying ALL men do this...but over half of the men I know only want to commit to a woman hotter than them) Background: I live just outside of Washington DC and most men here expect a potential girlfriend to have a good career AND to be better looking than him. No, I am not a Type A personality (at least, outside of work Im not) but alot of people here are. Eh, I live in the same area. I don't see any guys dating or marrying glaringly out of their league. My good friend is married to a girl who is not the best looking girl he ever dated (IMO) and as long as I have known him (college) he's never ever had a shortage of good looking women wanting to sleep with him or date him. Most guys I know could care less what a woman did for a living. Of course none of them are rich and few have even solid careers yet. I have met some very picky women though (thankfully none that I was looking to date). Maybe you just have met some lousy people? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 ? LOL are you SERIOUS? Because men are ENTItLED No one is entitled to anything. We all gravitate to who we think are attractive. If you are a 7 or 8 why judge a 5 or 6 male that you would date for going on to dating a 9 or 10 in your terms. This is what I am talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 No one is entitled to anything. We all gravitate to who we think are attractive. If you are a 7 or 8 why judge a 5 or 6 male that you would date for going on to dating a 9 or 10 in your terms. This is what I am talking about. Men are more shallow. Thats why. Its pretty funny how you try to paint them as not shallow though Link to post Share on other sites
Sanitarium Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I see many beautiful women with guys that arent that cute. I have never ever seen a vice versa example. Hugh Jackman is 44 and one of the most eligible men in Hollywood and is married to a 57 year old woman who is not a fraction as attractive as he is (not to mention 13 years older) Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 No, "other people" said he was below my league lookswise. Such as "he is not cute enough for her" and "she could get somebody better looking" and so on. I see many beautiful women with guys that arent that cute. I have never ever seen a vice versa example. So it is looks. That makes it easier to explain. While women are attracted to good looking men, women are sometimes very attracted to average looking men for other reasons. Attraction is not based on looks alone. And that doesn't mean they are in different "leagues". 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sanitarium Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Men are more shallow. Thats why. Its pretty funny how you try to paint them as not shallow though Men are more shallow about looks Women are more shallow about income/success/education/career I met a co worker at my current job who lives in the big city and most of his wives' friends won't date somebody unless he makes six figures (and not 100-120K six figures, we're talking 250K six figures) Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Men are more shallow about looks Women are more shallow about income/success/education/career I met a co worker at my current job who lives in the big city and most of his wives' friends won't date somebody unless he makes six figures (and not 100-120K six figures, we're talking 250K six figures) I know few women like that. In my social circle, a woman who doesnt work is considered lazy so thus they dont need a rich man since they support themselves. I support myself financially Link to post Share on other sites
Sanitarium Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I know few women like that. In my social circle, a woman who doesnt work is considered lazy so thus they dont need a rich man since they support themselves. I support myself financially Those women weren't lazy....a lot of them were the types who made 70-100K a year and felt entitled to millionaire types. Is this all women? No but they do exist (and they tend to be in the same environment that you are in, which is no coincidence) That's no different than what you're talking about Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Those women weren't lazy....a lot of them were the types who made 70-100K a year and felt entitled to millionaire types. Is this all women? No but they do exist (and they tend to be in the same environment that you are in, which is no coincidence) That's no different than what you're talking about I can only think of 2 women I know out of tons that would feel entitled to a millionaire. I think youre exaggerating Link to post Share on other sites
Soxfaninfl Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hugh Jackman is 44 and one of the most eligible men in Hollywood and is married to a 57 year old woman who is not a fraction as attractive as he is (not to mention 13 years older) All that matters is that they love each other, and they treat other good. Age is just a number. I prefer an average women with a great personality. Link to post Share on other sites
Sanitarium Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I can only think of 2 women I know out of tons that would feel entitled to a millionaire. I think youre exaggerating And I know maybe 2 guys who feel entitled to somebody far more attractive than themselves. I think you're exaggerating Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Why does it upset you that men are marrying women more attractive than them? If the attraction is mutual, why does it matter? Link to post Share on other sites
mesmerized Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Very true and the reason is simple. Men do not like to commit. They are not naturally commitment minded. The woman has to be too good to be true for them to want to commit...they need to think to themselves that they can't/won't get any better so have to stick to this one. Men afford to do that because there are tons of women absolutely desperate for commitment out there. If women did not act like this, there would be more balance. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kimberlydoll Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Why does it upset you that men are marrying women more attractive than them? If the attraction is mutual, why does it matter? Its not so much that it happens, its the general attitude that many men Ive met have today about being entitled to have a woman hotter than them. Theyre more shallow in terms of looks Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Its not so much that it happens, its the general attitude that many men Ive met have today about being entitled to have a woman hotter than them. Theyre more shallow in terms of looks Any attitude of entitlement is detrimental to dating. But if they have something that makes them attractive to the beautiful women they desire, why shouldn't they go after the woman that makes their heart race? Link to post Share on other sites
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