meanon Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Spock. Just as your selfishness gives every woman a bad name, so your patience does us all proud Have you any other virtues I can bask in? I'm running low.
littleflowerpot Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by meanon Spock. Just as your selfishness gives every woman a bad name, so your patience makes does us all proud Have you any other virtues I can bask in? I'm running low. her patience is indeed wonderful. i also like my tenacity.
sinner Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Have you any other virtues I can bask in? I'm running low. meanon, dear, you may bask in my virtues if Spock refuses your request. I have oodles of virtue unlike "sociopaths" like Spock. Spock, send me $5.00 and I'll ship you your very own Scarlet Letter. Sorry, no C.O.D.
murasaki Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 A lot of vehemence on this thread! Littleflowerpot, you ought to read this thread: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t45340/
littleflowerpot Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by murasaki A lot of vehemence on this thread! Littleflowerpot, you ought to read this thread: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t45340/ hey, hon. sorry you view my discussion as berating but when a person brings up their situation they open it up for discussion. if i disagree with someone, i'll voice my opinion. i'm sorry it isn't to your liking.
meanon Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 meanon, dear, you may bask in my virtues if Spock refuses your request. Cheers, sinner! May I choose which ones?
Author Mr Spock Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 your excuse that if it's okay for a man to do it, it should be okay for a woman to do it doesn't work for me because it's not okay for either of them to do it. with a man, i MIGHT give up the argument quicker because i might give him up for a lost cause but that's not a reason to accept it in a man OR a woman. so you are wrong that i'm more okay with it for a man than a woman so that also negates your comment that i need to work on that. trying to insinuate that i have the problem is sly but it won't make you right. Once again, it's not my excuse. It's yours. There isn't really a right or a wrong to this conversation-I think that's why you find it so frustrating to debate. I wasn't trying to insinuate that you had the problem, merely pointing out your own admitted double standard. you will probably have kids someday whether you are a man or a woman and you might regret your choice to be selfish and you might regret your decision to carry on a relationship where kids could be hurt and for the most stupid and ugly reason imaginable. There are lots of worse reasons. Probably, schmobably. I don't know of any parent that hasn't said "Do as I say, not as I do". You are assuming I want children, I feel they're optional really. Spock. Just as your selfishness gives every woman a bad name, so your patience does us all proud Have you any other virtues I can bask in? I'm running low. LMAO it's also sheer exhaustion...about 8 hours of sleep since Monday morning makes you slower in pretty much every way meanon, dear, you may bask in my virtues if Spock refuses your request. I have oodles of virtue unlike "sociopaths" like Spock. Spock, send me $5.00 and I'll ship you your very own Scarlet Letter. Sorry, no C.O.D. You could start a business with that.......while you're at it, perhaps you could start with the witch hunt again. Tar and feather me. We'll tell everyone it's liquid latex.
Author Mr Spock Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 but you know what? nothing i say will matter. her friends will continue to tell her she's wonderful and she's doing nothing wrong and it's okay You're making all kinds of assumptions here littleflowerpot. You've pegged me into a slot that I don't fit in-I'm nothing like you would expect.
Author Mr Spock Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 Oh, you took that part out. Well I still saw it.
littleflowerpot Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Spock Once again, it's not my excuse. It's yours. There isn't really a right or a wrong to this conversation-I think that's why you find it so frustrating to debate. I wasn't trying to insinuate that you had the problem, merely pointing out your own admitted double standard. There are lots of worse reasons. Probably, schmobably. I don't know of any parent that hasn't said "Do as I say, not as I do". You are assuming I want children, I feel they're optional really. LMAO it's also sheer exhaustion...about 8 hours of sleep since Monday morning makes you slower in pretty much every way You could start a business with that.......while you're at it, perhaps you could start with the witch hunt again. Tar and feather me. We'll tell everyone it's liquid latex. no, there is a wrong here. it just isn't pretty to look at so sometimes people choose to ignore it. debate doesn't frustrate me but callousness and lack of empathy for others does. i didn't have a double standard. that's just how you perceived it. i'm glad you are considering not having children. now, as there seems to be a stalemate and it's obviously bothering your friends, i'll agree to discontinue the debate.
littleflowerpot Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Spock Oh, you took that part out. Well I still saw it. i'm sure you did but i reconsidered it as it sounded dumb when i wanted to comment on your reply.
Author Mr Spock Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 no, there is a wrong here. it just isn't pretty to look at so sometimes people choose to ignore it. debate doesn't frustrate me but callousness and lack of empathy for others does. i didn't have a double standard. that's just how you perceived it. i'm glad you are considering not having children. now, as there seems to be a stalemate and it's obviously bothering your friends, i'll agree to discontinue the debate. No, you did have a bit of a double standard. I'm either too tired or too lazy to go through the thread to find it. You really need to stop responding to what you perceive I'm saying "between the lines", especially in regards to my friends and family. I will continue to post on this thread, you may choose to stop if you wish. You seem to be responding to things that I'm not saying.......
sinner Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Cheers, sinner! May I choose which ones? Of course you may choose which ones! Even chastity!
Author Mr Spock Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 Name some more...that's not the most appealing one to me......
meanon Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 We'd never have guessed, Spock sinner is an excellent thread de-railer and at post 215 that IS a virtue.
sinner Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Chastity is the only one that matters, Spock. If we were all chaste, LoveShack wouldn't exist. In fact, due to overwhelming demand, I'll start a chastity thread soon. Now, if you and meanon excuse me, I must return to my scripture readings.
Grinning Maniac Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Ok. Enough of this. Could someone fill me in on what exactly the point of this thread is? 15 pages? Damn, that's a waste of space... Spock, you're obviously cool with sleeping with some loser who who cheats on his gf, and has kids, to make matters worse. You could argue that he'd cheat anyway, but that doesn't make helping him do it a good thing in any sense. You're an intelligent person, so I'm guessing you worked that out on your own. So, if you're banging this guy, feel perfectly fine about it, and have no intention of stopping...what is this thread for? I haven't been here very long, but I always thought the purpose of LoveShack was to share problems and/or give advice. You don't don't see your situation as a problem, and obviously don't care what any of us say about it, so why bother creating and posting in this thread? Shouldn't you be out buying rubbers or something? You make a thread explaining your situation(which I doubt came as a surprise to anyone) and then proceed to spend 15 pages basically telling us all that we don't know jack and to go f*ck ourselves. So, in closing, piss off. You're wasting our time. If you're satisfied with the situation, fine. Have fun. However, if something goes horribly wrong, and you start falling in love with this loser and end up depressed to suicidal levels, or if Don Juan's gf finds out about all this and decides to cut your tits off with a kitchen knife, do us a favor and don't make a new thread complaining about it, ok? Save room for threads that matter. Thanks.
Author Mr Spock Posted August 12, 2004 Author Posted August 12, 2004 If you don't like it, don't read it. I'm certainly not telling anyone to go f*ck themselves. Except maybe you.
Grinning Maniac Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Always leave it to Spock to completely ignore 95% of a post and respond with a sly remark... Didn't see that coming at all. If it's not too much trouble, what exactly is the point of the thread if you're completely satisfied and don't care what we have to say anyway? What's even the point of debate if you could care less? Why has this gone on for 15 pages? I can sum this thread up in just a few sentences. You: "I'm sleeping with another attached guy, even though he has kids and this situation didn't work out well before." LSers: "Well...stop it." You: "Nah. This is fun. Tee hee." LSers: "What about the innocent parties?" You: "I don't care." (last four lines repeat for 15 friggin pages) Come on.
kiababy Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I always thought the purpose of LoveShack was to share problems and/or give advice. Go back to the main page and read the description of the Other Woman/Other Man forum: "The other side. Support and discussion for those that find themselves involved with a committed partner" Spock and the rest of the OW/OM have the right to post whatever we want. We don't have to ACCEPT YOUR ADVICE AND ACT ON IT to earn the right to post here.
Grinning Maniac Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I never said Spock had to accept everyone's advice in order to post, but I can't be the only one who finds this "debate" a bit silly after 15 pages. I'm not even clear anymore on the current situation between Spock and this guy. It's not really a discussion of what's happening on a day-to-day basis anymore is it? That would be fine. It's turned into some angry, mutated "advise me" thread even though I'm doubting that's what she intended it to be. Feh. I suppose I just tire of madness. Carry on.
9Lives Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 girlfriend, i been there and i will tell you he cannot be the prize. you have to realize that you are not going to be totally happy in this type of relationship. i know. being 2nd sucks and you are the tresspasser here. the only thing you can do is decide to end it and then stay away from mm because they flock to you some kind of way. it is not fair to you. you need more that what a mm can give you. you can find someone else and be totally happy. dont stop here. he is not the prize. work on it. you can get out.
overseas2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Hey Flowerpot [color=red]you take from therapy what you put into it. it helps clear up the cobwebs for some of us. i agree that a therapist who is crazy is not what anyone needs but a good therapist is a great thing.[/color] All I am saying is that therapy and Prozac has become America's answer to every problem. I agree that sometimes therapy is needed for a really bad problem. But in this case I believe that she knows how to stop but doesn't want to because she is having fun getting f*** as she puts it. How many times have you (or me) done things we knew were wrong in advance? Yet we did them because we wanted the outcome in a way and just refused to be strong and say... no not this time? Do you really think you need therapy for that or do you just need a backbone? Regards Overseas
littleflowerpot Posted August 13, 2004 Posted August 13, 2004 Originally posted by overseas2004 Hey Flowerpot All I am saying is that therapy and Prozac has become America's answer to every problem. I agree that sometimes therapy is needed for a really bad problem. But in this case I believe that she knows how to stop but doesn't want to because she is having fun getting f*** as she puts it. How many times have you (or me) done things we knew were wrong in advance? Yet we did them because we wanted the outcome in a way and just refused to be strong and say... no not this time? Do you really think you need therapy for that or do you just need a backbone? Regards Overseas let's just say that there were times i did things that i knew were wrong or wrong for me and i did them anyway. a lot of those times i didn't know how they were hurtful or even my own motivation for doing it. and then there were times i did the same damn thing all over again. therapy helps me to connect a lot of my dots. therapy helps me learn to deal with things in different ways that make things better. i think perhaps you are way too cynical and you still have the wrong idea about therapy. therapy is all about taking personal responsibility and learning through introspection to do things in better ways. while i agree that often people will use cop outs for not taking responsibility and sometimes those cop outs will be saying they have some sort of disorder, entering into therapy is not gonna allow them to keep using those cop outs without impunity. therapy is real work. it's not a magic pill. btw, i'll say it again because people that are so anti-therapy still are confused about it, most people in therapy are NOT insane or mentally unbalanced. so your argument that it's a cop out is not valid. and to answer your question, sometimes people need to get a backbone and it might help them in their effort if they utilize the benefits of therapy. neither one rules out the other and can be used together.
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