Consolidated Discussion - A man's/woman's height in the search for relationships

September 20, 2014

I wasnt shocked when I read it....Your inexperience in life is obvious here, understand I am not criticising you for it...

Guys do that kind of stuff to women all the time..Heck ,I have done it to women a couple of times, when I was younger and more of a jerk than I already am now....Only difference is I just disappeared and spared her the disappointment and the letdown...Sometimes its less painful than actually telling the truth...

But seriously... Sounds like she was horny and needed some attention...Once that itch was scratched she moved on....Most women would(and do) the very same thing...Heck some dope woman is doing this very thing outlined in K.S.post to a buddy of mine right now as we speak..He is just now realizing the game..The only thing that sort of surprises me is that she actually told the truth...most would have just gone cold and gradually disappeared or used some other bs or generic "excuse"

Listen man....You. and some other posters are trying to make it like there is some "rule book" or "code of ethics" when it comes to this....Unfortunately there isnt...People do stuff for a whole variety of reasons and none of it is essentially "fair"....

But as they say...."it is what it is"

TFY

You say this as if you condone it and it is not completely disgusting.

It's a sad thing what has happened to women in my generation.

October 27, 2014

I was having a discussion the other day with a friend of mine that is also short. In all honesty, I have never met anyone that gets very attractive girls with the consistency that he does and he's 7 years younger than me.

He pointed out the fact that he has to "do" a lot more than most of our taller friends, which is true. He needs to seem more aloof, needs better game, etc. He can't just be himself, he says. This is something that I've also found true (as a fellow short guy that has done okay with women).

Meanwhile, our tall friends can be whoever they want and will get more chances.

In addition to this, I decided to look into a matchmaking service in the LA area. I ultimately decided against for a few reasons, not the least of which one of the articles that they posted on their site trying to convince women to give short men a shot. The article, then, discussed that while tall men are better, short men have qualities that they developed to compensate for their lack of height (such as being nice, rich, or smart).

I was completely disgusted and offended. I don't feel that I should have to make up for anything....just because my legs are shorter than that of the next guy. I don't feel like I should have to work harder because of this.

Personally, I don't want a woman that has to be convinced to date me. I don't want them to give me a shot because tall guys are a**holes or whatever.

F*ck this sh*t.

October 27, 2014

I was having a discussion the other day with a friend of mine that is also short. In all honesty, I have never met anyone that gets very attractive girls with the consistency that he does and he's 7 years younger than me.

He pointed out the fact that he has to "do" a lot more than most of our taller friends, which is true. He needs to seem more aloof, needs better game, etc. He can't just be himself, he says. This is something that I've also found true (as a fellow short guy that has done okay with women).

Meanwhile, our tall friends can be whoever they want and will get more chances.

In addition to this, I decided to look into a matchmaking service in the LA area. I ultimately decided against for a few reasons, not the least of which one of the articles that they posted on their site trying to convince women to give short men a shot. The article, then, discussed that while tall men are better, short men have qualities that they developed to compensate for their lack of height (such as being nice, rich, or smart).

I was completely disgusted and offended. I don't feel that I should have to make up for anything....just because my legs are shorter than that of the next guy. I don't feel like I should have to work harder because of this.

Personally, I don't want a woman that has to be convinced to date me. I don't want them to give me a shot because tall guys are a**holes or whatever.

F*ck this sh*t.

I had previously gone down this line of thinking, but neutering oneself and using what can't be changed to hinder one's game is probably not as productive. Everyone will have shortcomings (pun not intended), which can be handled differently to make one more attractive. Why shouldn't your game be as awesome as it could be regardless of how tall you are? If you were shorter, does that mean you shouldn't have as crazy game as one might need for being tall? Be the full package, be prepared to give it your all... or expect less. Hell, I might even joke about being short AS LONG as it doesn't come off as being insecure. Most women I know respect that.

A lot of what one needs to deal with is being creative and rolling with the punches. A person who's dealt with more rejection than someone who's had it easy, has more of my respect. If it were me, I would have more self-respect. It's the challenge that's the fun part, IMHO.

October 27, 2014

I had previously gone down this line of thinking, but neutering oneself and using what can't be changed to hinder one's game is probably not as productive. Everyone will have shortcomings (pun not intended), which can be handled differently to make one more attractive. Why shouldn't your game be as awesome as it could be regardless of how tall you are? If you were shorter, does that mean you shouldn't have as crazy game as one might need for being tall? Be the full package, be prepared to give it your all... or expect less. Hell, I might even joke about being short AS LONG as it doesn't come off as being insecure. Most women I know respect that.

A lot of what one needs to deal with is being creative and rolling with the punches. A person who's dealt with more rejection than someone who's had it easy, has more of my respect. If it were me, I would have more self-respect. It's the challenge that's the fun part, IMHO.

That's the thing. Tall guys don't need game. They could just do whatever they want and will have women approaching them. They just need to exist.

Short guys need to compensate with things such as game, money, etc. Tall guys don't need any of this.

I don't want a woman to have more respect for me because I didn't have it easier due to my height. That's my whole point, that my height shouldn't define me. But it does and always will. No matter what I accomplish in life, I'll still be just a short guy.

I don't want to be settled for when I do have money because a woman wants a baby and none of the tall guys were willing to commit to her. I don't want to feel this uphill battle. Initially, I thought that all men felt this way, but I've come to realize that this has been my experience due to my height and the fact that women feel like they're giving me a chance, as if I'm some charity case with some kind of deformity. One misstep and I lose my "opportunity" because I have this trait that is just so undesirable.

Also, I'm guessing you're not short yourself because this challenge is certainly not fun. Why would it be fun? I have a physical trait that I can't change that I'm expected to compensate for for the rest of my life. So when I'm married many years from now, I will still have to compensate for it. If I don't, my wife will divorce me.

Edited October 27, 2014 by Cristo

October 27, 2014

I was having a discussion the other day with a friend of mine that is also short. In all honesty, I have never met anyone that gets very attractive girls with the consistency that he does and he's 7 years younger than me.

He pointed out the fact that he has to "do" a lot more than most of our taller friends, which is true. He needs to seem more aloof, needs better game, etc. He can't just be himself, he says. This is something that I've also found true (as a fellow short guy that has done okay with women).

Meanwhile, our tall friends can be whoever they want and will get more chances.

In addition to this, I decided to look into a matchmaking service in the LA area. I ultimately decided against for a few reasons, not the least of which one of the articles that they posted on their site trying to convince women to give short men a shot. The article, then, discussed that while tall men are better, short men have qualities that they developed to compensate for their lack of height (such as being nice, rich, or smart).

I was completely disgusted and offended. I don't feel that I should have to make up for anything....just because my legs are shorter than that of the next guy. I don't feel like I should have to work harder because of this.

Personally, I don't want a woman that has to be convinced to date me. I don't want them to give me a shot because tall guys are a**holes or whatever.

F*ck this sh*t.

A women has to pretty much feel the short guy is her soulmate to give him a chance the tall guy just has to exist

October 27, 2014

That's the thing. Tall guys don't need game. They could just do whatever they want and will have women approaching them. They just need to exist.

What explains the tall guys who struggle with dating?

October 28, 2014

My best friend is a full 13 inches taller then I am. He and I dated about the same amout of girls in highschool. His hight did not help much because he was very thin and sort of goofy looking. His younger brother on the other hand.. entered highschool at about 5'6" and graduated 6'1". The girls swarmed him throughout. He was also a little Rico Suave. Very handsome and had game. We held a party at their house while their mother was out of town and he walks in with a girl on each arm and takes them down to his bedroom. His bro and I just looked at each other like "how does he do it?"

October 28, 2014

What explains the tall guys who struggle with dating?

He must have severe issues that turn women off.

October 31, 2014

Wow. This tall guy crap is just that. Crap. People really need to quit blaming their failures in life on their height.

Height is a trait that is highly sought after. If a tall man is having trouble dating, there must be something severely wrong with him.

October 31, 2014

One thing I have found interesting is that men's height is always brought up in terms of dating.

To me, it is actually less of a big deal (though it is still a big deal) because once/if I get married, well that'll put the kaputz on that.

However, I am self conscious when I walk into a room or stand in a line and every other guy there is like 6'3", 6'4". That seems to happen a lot.

Funny, but that bothers me even more often I think.

October 31, 2014

He must have severe issues that turn women off.

Same thing goes for the short guys.

The other night, I liked a guy who was just barely taller than I am - and I'm *short*. He was friendly, interesting, and I liked his smile. He was polite, as well.

October 31, 2014

One thing I have found interesting is that men's height is always brought up in terms of dating.

To me, it is actually less of a big deal (though it is still a big deal) because once/if I get married, well that'll put the kaputz on that.

However, I am self conscious when I walk into a room or stand in a line and every other guy there is like 6'3", 6'4". That seems to happen a lot.

Funny, but that bothers me even more often I think.

Compensate by hitting the gym. Get that chest that sticks out and biceps that fill your sleeve.

October 31, 2014

Height is a trait that is highly sought after. If a tall man is having trouble dating, there must be something severely wrong with him.

I don't think it stands alone as a quality. It may be a desirable trait for some women, but the guy still has to bring a lot of things to the table other than his height.

October 31, 2014

One thing I have found interesting is that men's height is always brought up in terms of dating.

To me, it is actually less of a big deal (though it is still a big deal) because once/if I get married, well that'll put the kaputz on that.

However, I am self conscious when I walk into a room or stand in a line and every other guy there is like 6'3", 6'4". That seems to happen a lot.

Funny, but that bothers me even more often I think.

I used to feel this way as well, but I've mostly gotten used to it. In real life, I have a charming and charismatic personality, likely because I subconsciously developed it after being overlooked due to my height.

I'm no longer intimidated by guys much bigger than me and I'm used to being the shortest guy around most of the time.

However, that's not to say that I'm not realistic and don't understand the huge disadvantage that I have in dating.

October 31, 2014

Same thing goes for the short guys.

The other night, I liked a guy who was just barely taller than I am - and I'm *short*. He was friendly, interesting, and I liked his smile. He was polite, as well.

I've been told that I'm friendly, interesting, and have a nice smile too. That's how I appear outwardly.

But this is what I think about inwardly.

Surprise!

October 31, 2014

I don't think it stands alone as a quality. It may be a desirable trait for some women, but the guy still has to bring a lot of things to the table other than his height.

That is true, but most women will not date a guy unless he is a certain height. So even if the guy has everything else that she is looking for, the guy will be ruled out because of his height before leaving the starting line.

A short guy will never be seen as a "catch".

October 31, 2014

A short guy will never be seen as a "catch".

You're thinking of this in a very narrow way.

For a lot of women, finding a guy who is sweet, sensitive, intelligent, shares similar values - or whatever combination of traits appeals to that particular woman - will make the guy she is with a "catch" no matter what anyone around her says. She may (or may not) have a preference for a certain height on paper, but if she meets a guy who is a match in other ways, it's likely that preference will become inconsequential.

How tall are you?

October 31, 2014

You're thinking of this in a very narrow way.

I'm being realistic.

For a lot of women, finding a guy who is sweet, sensitive, intelligent, shares similar values - or whatever combination of traits appeals to that particular woman - will make the guy she is with a "catch" no matter what anyone around her says. She may (or may not) have a preference for a certain height on paper, but if she meets a guy who is a match in other ways, it's likely that preference will become inconsequential.

How tall are you?

5'6.

And I disagree with you. From what I've seen/experienced, shorter men have a smaller margin for error with women. Tall men have to be pretty bad in some other way for the women to not give them a chance.

Can the woman be attracted to a short man? Sure. Some short men (myself included) have had many women attracted to them. However, this man will never be considered a catch, in general.

I remember a post on LS a little while back, where there was a discussion about a guy that is tall, good-looking, fun, and charismatic, but had no motivation and was unemployed. Most women that responded there talked about how much of a catch he is and how he could always just get a job if he wants to.

Short men can't become taller if they want to.

Just a fact of life.

October 31, 2014

5'6.

My guy is about 5'6".

I remember a post on LS a little while back, where there was a discussion about a guy that is tall, good-looking, fun, and charismatic, but had no motivation and was unemployed. Most women that responded there talked about how much of a catch he is and how he could always just get a job if he wants to.

I'd like to see that thread to judge for myself.

Short men can't become taller if they want to.

Well they can be, through leg lengthening surgery, if you want to take the risk. It wouldn't make sense to me though.

To me, your height is not a much of a handicap even if it isn't the "ideal" that some in society prefer. We all have things that aren't society's "ideal."

October 31, 2014

My guy is about 5'6".

As I said, it CAN happen. Women like me, but it usually isn't right away. I usually have to put far more effort in than my tall friends.

Also, I had to develop a charismatic personality and have a good job to "compensate" for my height, but you really can't make up for that.

I'd like to see that thread to judge for myself.

I just spent a while looking for it. It's buried somewhere in the depths of LoveShack purgatory lol.

EDIT: I'll wait a few days and start a similar thread and we'll see what kind of responses it gets. Look out for it.

Well they can be, through leg lengthening surgery, if you want to take the risk. It wouldn't make sense to me though.

I thought about it a few years ago, but never seriously. To be honest, I'd rather be single for the rest of my life than potentially damage my health for what? 2 or 3 inches? Then I'll be 5'8-5'9 and still be short-ish lol.

To me, your height is not a much of a handicap even if it isn't the "ideal" that some in society prefer. We all have things that aren't society's "ideal."

Our society is far more superficial than you give it credit for and height is one of the most important components of that. How many women do you see with men that are shorter than them? My guess is not many. How many short women have you met that have a strong preference for tall men? My guess is many.

October 31, 2014

Height is a trait that is highly sought after. If a tall man is having trouble dating, there must be something severely wrong with him.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

October 31, 2014

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

How tall are you? Do you have trouble dating?

October 31, 2014

How tall are you? Do you have trouble dating?

5'11"

I've had my ups and downs just like every other normal guy. I have a gf now but that doesn't mean dating has always been easy.

You think every tall guy can get women like a rockstar just by being tall. And that's why you have no idea what you're talking about.

October 31, 2014

5'11"

I've had my ups and downs just like every other normal guy. I have a gf now but that doesn't mean dating has always been easy.

You think every tall guy can get women like a rockstar just by being tall. And that's why you have no idea what you're talking about.

You have a larger pool of women to choose from. Anyone from your height to below 5 feet will date you. While I have dated women taller than me in the past, it is not common. Thus, I have far less options than you do (unless you have some other major negative about you).

My point is that I will never be considered a catch, while you very well can be. And you have a far better chance at OLD than I do simply because of our difference in height.

October 31, 2014

My point is that I will never be considered a catch

I just have to repeat that that is not true. For most women, being a catch is not contingent on height.

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