Men only want models

[johan]

ehh i think it depends i dont always think thats the case..on here for example if a guy can attract women it seems to be automatically assumed that hes looking for supermodels..

 

If a womens having trouble attracting Men on here shes usually coddled a little more and told she desrves her prince charming..

 

I think this is true for people of either gender who aren't posting idiotic things. People who say stupid, whiny things are rarely encouraged to continue.

[brahmabull117]

It's my perception that men are more shallow.

 

 

because caring about status is far more noble and deep than caring about appearance?

 

 

 

[Anela]

because caring about status is far more noble and deep than caring about appearance?

 

 

 

 

What sort of status are you talking about?

 

I want to say more, but it won't do any good; you'll only tell me that I'm an exception, so I don't count.

[brahmabull117]

What sort of status are you talking about?

 

 

The kind of status where ugly boring famous dudes can date women 6 miles out of their league

 

 

 

You're out of your mind if you think that men have more of a capacity to be shallow than women do. It's all about equal in the end

[Anela]

The kind of status where ugly boring famous dudes can date women 6 miles out of their league

 

 

 

You're out of your mind if you think that men have more of a capacity to be shallow than women do. It's all about equal in the end

 

I didn't say that men are more shallow than women, but you won't see me throwing myself at someone because they're rich and/or famous.

[brahmabull117]

This might just be my misconception, but it seems sometimes that it's rather taboo for women to admit looks are important to us meanwhile it's pretty accepted that men value physical beauty.

 

To use an example, on a public forum, I saw a question by some girl who asked something really generic, like how to attract good looking guys, the responses were the usual vindictive tripe about how she must be a "shallow whore" etc. On the same forum, a guy admitted he was obese and claimed that he was only attracted to slim, conventionally good looking brunettes and blondes and wanted some way to attract them, the responses were mainly sympathetic ones "be a nice person", "be a nice and respectful person", "if they're not interested they're probably shallow only superficial and not worth your time". I'm not even joking, I guess they either missed the irony or think it's only acceptable if men have physical appearance standards and most of the people answering both questions happened to actually be women themselves. The only sensible answer I recall came from a man who said that he should take care of his own appearance before expecting women who obviously work hard to take care of themselves show any interest in him.

 

It was only something like Yahoo Answers and I know it's not a great indicator of the way the world thinks, but it does seem a lot of people think like that.

 

 

 

Great post, I agree with you

[brahmabull117]

I didn't say that men are more shallow than women, but you won't see me throwing myself at someone because they're rich and/or famous.

 

 

 

And you won't see me throwing myself at a hot blonde who is dumber than a bag of bricks

 

 

What does that change? Nothing. What remains is that Disenchantedly yours is a delusional male-basher and I'm tired of her nonsense

[Anela]

And you won't see me throwing myself at a hot blonde who is dumber than a bag of bricks

 

 

What does that change? Nothing. What remains is that Disenchantedly yours is a delusional male-basher and I'm tired of her nonsense

 

She isn't a male-basher, or delusional.

 

I need to get out of here. Talk to you later.

[brahmabull117]

She isn't a male-basher.

 

 

 

:rolleyes:

[Anela]

:rolleyes:

 

Right back at you.

[brahmabull117]

Right back at you.

 

 

 

You just love her cause she reinforces your self loathing beliefs about how men have no interest in anybody that does not look like a playmate

 

 

 

Like a drug addict who loves the drugs that keep reinforcing his suffering

[Anela]

You just love her cause she reinforces your self loathing beliefs about how men have no interest in anybody that does not look like a playmate

 

 

 

Like a drug addict who loves the drugs that keep reinforcing his suffering

 

That isn't true. I've had plenty of attention over my body: my legs, my butt, my chest, my "nice little figure". I was recently the recipient of a long wolf-whistle and a blown kiss (two different guys, same night). That doesn't change my experiences (and I have acknowledged my own issues; I also don't loathe myself).

[brahmabull117]

That isn't true. I've had plenty of attention over my body: my legs, my butt, my chest, my "nice little figure". I was recently the recipient of a long wolf-whistle and a blown kiss (two different guys, same night).

 

 

Well I wasn't implying that you're not attractive (I dunno either way) but that's fantastic

 

 

That doesn't change my experiences (and I have acknowledged my own issues; I also don't loathe myself).

 

 

Nobody has ever won in life, at anything, with a defeatist attitude

[Anela]

I believe it is a combination of my striking good looks and general aura of awesomeness.

 

I have tried gaining some weight in the past few months, but sadly this has not deterred their heated advances:(

 

Unfortunately I'm afraid there just isn't much I can due to disuade them at this point. I will just have to live with it as you said.

 

Thank you so much though for your kind words and thoughtful tips.

 

 

 

lol

 

You're welcome.

[udolipixie]

I don't think it's nonsense.

 

It seems when it comes to using a hole aka sex in manspeak guys have pretty low standards. However when it comes to dating & relationships guys only pursue the most attractive and are willing to settle for a lesser attractive gal as a consolation prize they don't want but will have to make do.

[Anela]

Well I wasn't implying that you're not attractive (I dunno either way) but that's fantastic

 

It didn't feel fantastic at the time, though. I panicked, and asked someone, "Do I suddenly look tarty??" I received a lot of attention like that in the past, and it made me uncomfortable. It had nothing to do with me. So they want to have sex with me; big whoop. More than one person has alluded to the fact that there are men out there who will sleep with what they term "a whale" if they're desperate enough.

 

And then there's someone laughing at the idea that they could be in love with me. And my sister thinking the very idea that her boyfriend who hit on me, and then once said that he was in love with me, not her (not that I had any interest in him) - she agrees with him that the idea is ridiculous, even though she witnessed it all. Apparently, I just think that I'm hot stuff (if only!).

 

Nobody has ever won in life, at anything, with a defeatist attitude

 

I haven't always had this attitude, and I try to keep my chin up. It would be nice to have a great experience, instead of me having to pick myself over and over (rather than choosing to be with someone who can laugh at me in the way I mentioned above).

[udolipixie]

I don't ever understand why women always act as if they don't care that they have the ability to get casual sex from most men they see whenever they want it. Often times, when it comes to casual sex, women not only have guys who are good enough, they more times than not have men who are far better looking than them sleeping with them. Oh, you poor things Try being an every day guy, the 80 something % of unmarried men who have been left out of the "sexual revolution", who often goes months or even years without any sex life (maybe a really fat chick if they're lucky), and I know for sure that "who cares that men, including the very hot men I lust for and sexually objectify myself, will sleep with just about anyone" tone would change.

 

Women are just as picky about who they have relationships with as they are with who they have casual sex with, the difference is in the relationship realm women seem to care more about money... sometimes. There are plenty of women on this forum saying they want some amazing guy whose got money and checks off all the millions of physical and personality expectations they have for someone they would randomly hook up with despite the sand in the hour glass thinning out.

 

Just because most men enjoy casual sex here and there, doesn't mean they don't look for a friend, wife, and mother in a woman. I mean, that's how women seem to categorize their sex and romance life nowadays, 20's are for beating with Brad Pitt lookalikes, then after wait for a guy who can buy a house and get along with you personality wise.

 

Perhaps because many gals don't care that they have the ability to get to get casual sex from most men whenever they want it: In my opinion it's not that much of a benefit when:

- safety concern of having sex with random guys

- sexual history can be used to shame her

- many gals don't find random sex or casual sex appealing unless it's with a highly attractive, wealthy, or high status guy which most men aren't

- most likely the guy won't care about her sexual pleasure or orgasm

- most likely she won't get much sexual pleasure or an orgasm

 

My tone wouldn't change if I was an everyday guy because in my opinion guys don't have it as hard as many on here make it out to be. Seems more like guys on here have it hard rather than guys in general.

 

I'd be rather content to not be bothered and pestered by guys who think I should be flattered by their unwanted attraction to me and give them a chance or appreciate that they're invading on my space and taking my time.

 

I'd be quite content with the lack of street harassment as it seems most guys are essentially invisible and rarely have to deal with strangers sexually objectifying them or groping them then being told they were asking for it, should be happy they'll miss it when they get old, or are simply attention whoring.

 

Quite unsure why you're telling me gals are as selective with who they have relationships with when nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply otherwise.

 

Really unsure why you're telling me men enjoying casual sex doesn't mean they don't look for a friend, wife, and mother in a gal when nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply otherwise.

Edited August 19, 2012 by udolipixie

[Bristolius]

I was married for 12 years. I went to public school, a state college, and was in the workforce for decades. I've met hundreds of people. Weirdly enough I've met many dozens of models and actors/actresses.

 

I can't come up with any valuable generalizations about what women or men are like or what women or men want. It's not even very interesting to try.

 

I'm 52. How can all you twenty and thirty-something's be so confident about your detailed theories?

[xxoo]

My tone wouldn't change if I was an everyday guy because in my opinion guys don't have it as hard as many on here make it out to be. Seems more like guys on here have it hard rather than guys in general.

 

I agree. But at the same time, women don't have it as hard as many on here make it out to be, either.

 

I know people currently in their teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and on up, all in relationships. They aren't all models and/or rich!

[udolipixie]

I agree. But at the same time, women don't have it as hard as many on here make it out to be, either.

 

I know people currently in their teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and on up, all in relationships. They aren't all models and/or rich!

 

I missed where the gals on here where saying gals have it unrealistically hard though I don't why you're responding with such to me as I don't play the 'my gender has it harder/so hard' game. I've repeatedly stated I think guys and gals have it easier in some areas, harder in some areas, the same in some areas, and overall are on even ground. That any easiness likely depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, status, and personality not gender.

Edited August 19, 2012 by udolipixie

[xxoo]

I missed where the gals on here where saying gals have it so harder though I don't why you're responding with such to me as I don't play the 'my gender has it harder' game. I've repeatedly stated I think guys and gals have it easier in some areas, harder in some areas, the same in some areas, and overall are on even ground. That any easiness likely depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, status, and personality not gender.

 

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was agreeing, and building on the point.

 

I've read many women here say women have it harder.

[mesmerized]

Perhaps because many gals don't care that they have the ability to get to get casual sex from most men whenever they want it: In my opinion it's not that much of a benefit when:

- safety concern of having sex with random guys

- sexual history can be used to shame her

- many gals don't find random sex or casual sex appealing unless it's with a highly attractive, wealthy, or high status guy which most men aren't

- most likely the guy won't care about her sexual pleasure or orgasm

- most likely she won't get much sexual pleasure or an orgasm

 

 

I like you! I remember you said you're pretty young, you're very wise for your age.

[udolipixie]

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was agreeing, and building on the point.

 

I've read many women here say women have it harder.

Okay then miscommunication on my part.

 

Vastly different experiences as I've read gals here state they have it hard in response to 'gals have it so easy' or 'easier than guys' haven't seen one stating they have it harder.

[Revolver]

There's too many women who dont look like models(and some not even close)who are getting married and are having kids for this to be true

[brahmabull117]

I haven't always had this attitude, and I try to keep my chin up. It would be nice to have a great experience, instead of me having to pick myself over and over (rather than choosing to be with someone who can laugh at me in the way I mentioned above).

 

 

Let me ask you a question, are there women far less attractive than you who are successful in dating? Of course there are

 

 

 

That to me makes your concerns and fears irrelevant. I don't mean to sound harsh but that's just how it goes. We control our own lives