Where the hell are all the girls in their early 20s?

[threebyfate]

I went a lot last year when I was still performing, now I go occasionally, I get numbers sometimes but club girls are the flakiest . I don't sweat it, there are always girls at clubs, they either respond or not.

 

I meet girls most places, when I am on a course, or performing, or through social circle, there are loads of girls. I also meet a few over the internet too though.

Sure, you're not the guy who's complaining they want drinking age women when they don't frequent bars and clubs. That's like saying I want an avid cyclist and then, don't cycle.

[StillReigning]

Sure, you're not the guy who's complaining they want drinking age women when they don't frequent bars and clubs. That's like saying I want an avid cyclist and then, don't cycle.

 

 

I go out all the time. I don't want an 18-20 year old because I want her to be able to go out with me and my friends (although I would be willing to make an exception) plus younger women are completely retarded. Truth be told, I get along great with people in their mid to late 20s but I'm not going to ask out a 25 year old because I know women are incredibly weird about dating guys who are younger by even a year

[ThaWholigan]

I never once said that you shouldn't get laid or that you shouldn't put in the work or that you shouldn't have a great attitude or any of those things. I was acknowledging a simple reality - the average 23 year old female has about 10 times more options than the average 23 year old male because they can date men in any age range while a 23 year old male has to find women in about a 5 year windows (18-23 but most guys out of college don't want to deal with a stupid 18 year old). It's just a world of difference

 

And here is my question:

 

Who in the world give a sh*t? I don't. When I am out and I see girls, I don't think to myself "oh, she probably has tons more options than me if she's my age, I just have to go get myself a 'stupid 18 year old' because I am at the bottom of the food chain" .

 

My perception of reality isn't hinged on things like the average 23 year old girl and her masses of dating options.

 

 

What's better - 23 year old female who can date anybody or a 23 year old man who has to look left and right to find a girl in his preferred age range (which is around 21-23)? You're just being delusional

 

Well, I actually don't have a preferred age range. I resonate more with girls my own age, true. But if I met a cool ass 19 year old tomorrow, you bet your ass I'd date her. Or a 29 year old. You can choose to acknowledge limits in your reality - I don't have to be governed by them.

[threebyfate]

I'm not going to ask out

This is where it ends. No ask, no get.

[ThaWholigan]

I go out all the time. I don't want an 18-20 year old because I want her to be able to go out with me and my friends (although I would be willing to make an exception) plus younger women are completely retarded. Truth be told, I get along great with people in their mid to late 20s but I'm not going to ask out a 25 year old because I know women are incredibly weird about dating guys who are younger by even a year

 

That bold sentence tells me that you don't really know what you are talking about. You call me delusional

 

I can see why you say what you say about late teens girls. But you do not know that a 25 year old is automatically going to be weird about guys younger.

[StillReigning]

 

You're absolutely right, I'm just going to try to beat around the bush and pretend like what you're saying doesn't matter

 

 

I fixed your post

 

This is where it ends. No ask, no get.

 

 

Oh come the f*ck on. There was a thread here about a 23 year old woman who thought it was absolutely awful that a 22 year old was interested in her. As if a year of difference somehow turns a man into a better person magically

[threebyfate]

Oh come the f*ck on. There was a thread here about a 23 year old woman who thought it was absolutely awful that a 22 year old was interested in her. As if a year of difference somehow turns a man into a better person magically

One thread and it's all over. I've seen plenty of threads with girls older than their boyfriends by a few years.

[monkey00]

I'd hate to break it to you man, like everyone else already has...but it will be hard, but not impossible.

 

When I was in my early 20's I had a horrible time meeting women, even using OLD it was tough. The best time to meet women is in HS and college, after that it's pretty much a number's game the rest of your life. Bar scenes are kind of out of the equation because most people that frequent it are in their mid-20's+.

 

Also sorry to ruin it for you, but I'm in the late 20's pool dishing out on the early 20's women...and they are much more responsive to me now older than when I was their age.

 

For your age group, I'd recommend volunteering, joining some sports team/club, meeting girls through friends, take weekend classes at a college, and go to parties. Which is usually how early 20's meet others from what I've seen.

 

let us know how it goes! And good luck!

[ThaWholigan]

I fixed your post

 

 

 

 

Oh come the f*ck on. There was a thread here about a 23 year old woman who thought it was absolutely awful that a 22 year old was interested in her. As if a year of difference somehow turns a man into a better person magically

I'M beating around the bush? That's funny.....

 

Your entire dating life consists of you beating around the bush, instead of just bushwhacking your way forward.

[StillReigning]

One thread and it's all over. I've seen plenty of threads with girls older than their boyfriends by a few years.

 

 

I think those are much more exceptions than the rules. Truth be told. Even if you can date a year or two older, you're still at a big disadvantage compared to women your own age (who can date any age)

 

It doesn't matter though, this is all bullsh*t. I actually agree with what you and wholigan are saying about doing your best to find women in your desired age range and what not. Just because you're dealt a bad hand doesn't mean you can't do your best to win. I've always agreed with that

[threebyfate]

I actually agree with what you and wholigan are saying about doing your best to find women in your desired age range and what not. Just because you're dealt a bad hand doesn't mean you can't do your best to win. I've always agreed with that

Good! Now get out there.

[StillReigning]

I'M beating around the bush? That's funny.....

 

Your entire dating life consists of you beating around the bush, instead of just bushwhacking your way forward.

 

 

Dude you don't understand, I actually agree with your attitude but I just get annoyed by your lack of interest in wanting to acknowledge reality. There IS a huge difference in dating options for young women vs young men. This is undeniable

 

I love positivity but I despise delusion. There's a big difference

[ThaWholigan]

It doesn't matter though, this is all bullsh*t. I actually agree with what you and wholigan are saying about doing your best to find women in your desired age range and what not. Just because you're dealt a bad hand doesn't mean you can't do your best to win. I've always agreed with that

 

Exactly, it is all bullsh*t that you don't need to be thinking about, just go talk to some girls, simples.

[ThaWholigan]

Dude you don't understand, I actually agree with your attitude but I just get annoyed by your lack of interest in wanting to acknowledge reality. There IS a huge difference in dating options for young women vs young men. This is undeniable

 

I love positivity but I despise delusion. There's a big difference

 

Correction: YOUR reality. Not mine. There is not a huge difference. And I am not delusional, I am acutely aware of most things - fortunately.

 

I have seen a wide variety of things go down, especially in dating. The difference is not that big - a girl can probably get laid easier if she wants to, that's as far as it goes. Anything outside of that is no handicap, barring disability and social ineptitude.

 

There is no delusion here.

 

Actually scratch that. Even if it IS a delusion - riddle me this:

 

What does it serve you to invest so much into a reality that limits you? . Is it your perception of reality, or reality altering your perception?

[StillReigning]

Good! Now get out there.

 

 

The problem is neither you nor wholigan want to acknowledge reality. That's very annoying. Dating as a young man out of college can be very challenging. That's all I'm saying

[threebyfate]

The problem is neither you nor wholigan want to acknowledge reality. That's very annoying. Dating as a young man out of college can be very challenging. That's all I'm saying

Dating or finding a relationship with the right person? If it's the latter, it's difficult for anyone at any age. You just keep on dating until you do.

[ThaWholigan]

The problem is neither you nor wholigan want to acknowledge reality. That's very annoying. Dating as a young man out of college can be very challenging. That's all I'm saying

I know it can be challenging. Dating is challenging for a lot of people, not just 23 year old males. You seem to be missing my point.....

 

The point I'm trying to make is I simply do not care how challenging it is. I'm not gonna cry about it, or bitch about it. I'm just gonna get on with it and do it.

[StillReigning]

I have seen a wide variety of things go down, especially in dating. The difference is not that big - a girl can probably get laid easier if she wants to, that's as far as it goes. Anything outside of that is no handicap, barring disability and social ineptitude.

 

F*cking bullch*t. A pretty 23 year old can go into a bar and date a 40 year old or a 20 year old. A handsome 23 year old man still has to look high and low to find somebody who is around 21-23. You don't think there's any difference between having a 3 year age range of dating partners and being able to date any age?

 

 

What does it serve you to invest so much into a reality that limits you? . Is it your perception of reality, or reality altering your perception?

 

You believe in positivity at all cost, even if that cost is delusion. I believe in positive reality and I despise delusion. That's the difference between us.

[StillReigning]

Dating or finding a relationship with the right person? If it's the latter, it's difficult for anyone at any age. You just keep on dating until you do.

 

 

So it's just as challenging for a 23 year old woman to find a partner when she can date literally anybody as it is for a 23 year old man who likely has just a few year range to select from?

 

 

I'm going to travel to planet Neptune and hopefully the above will make sense to me there. I doubt it though

[ThaWholigan]

F*cking bullch*t. A pretty 23 year old can go into a bar and date a 40 year old or a 20 year old. A handsome 23 year old man still has to look high and low to find somebody who is around 21-23. You don't think there's any difference between having a 3 year age range of dating partners and being able to date any age?

 

Like I said, and I will keep saying.

 

The fact that you care about this stuff, is why you have problems dating. I don't care how many partners a pretty 23 year old girl can attract if she goes to a bar. I'm not keeping score . I also don't have to look "high and low" to find somebody

 

You believe in positivity at all cost, even if that cost is delusion. I believe in positive reality and I despise delusion. That's the difference between us.

 

Except I'm not deluded at all. I know exactly what you're talking about. I never once said it doesn't exist, in some demographics it is like that. It doesn't exist in the circles I move in first of all. But even if it did.......

 

The real difference between us is that I don't care. You do. That's the difference.

[StillReigning]

You're exactly correct

 

 

There, I condensed your 2 paragraphs of nonsense into 1 statement

 

BTW, I just made a thread about "positive attitude". You know I agree with you 100% about that

[ThaWholigan]

There, I condensed your 2 paragraphs of nonsense into 1 statement

 

BTW, I just made a thread about "positive attitude". You know I agree with you 100% about that

You're such a little bitch

[USMCHokie]

I think I have an idea of why The Rock has such an issue with certain posts, and I sort of agree with his frustration. I understand that one should transcend any difficulties that one has with dating, and I agree wholeheartedly. However, it is one thing to encourage progress and action, while it's completely different to refuse to recognize these legitimate difficulties, sweep them under the rug, and sprinkle peaches and cream on top. It's hard to "believe" someone who completely refutes something you've experienced and only provides an anecdote or two of their own which they insist is much more compelling.

 

It's naivety by both sides.

[StillReigning]

I think I have an idea of why The Rock has such an issue with certain posts, and I sort of agree with his frustration. I understand that one should transcend any difficulties that one has with dating, and I agree wholeheartedly. However, it is one thing to encourage progress and action, while it's completely different to refuse to recognize these legitimate difficulties, sweep them under the rug, and sprinkle peaches and cream on top. It's hard to "believe" someone who completely refutes something you've experienced and only provides an anecdote or two of their own which they insist is much more compelling.

 

It's naivety by both sides.

 

 

I don't know who the "rock" is but if you're referring to me, I agree. I'm ALL for positivity but to completely disregard reality is pretty ridiculous in my view. In this case, it's not anecdotal evidence. It's pretty clearly established in our society that men of all ages are willing to date very young women and that women generally are not interested in men younger than them. For men out of college, it can be very difficult just to find women younger than them, much less finding women younger who are compatible.

Edited August 16, 2012 by StillReigning

[USMCHokie]

I don't know who the "rock" is but if you're referring to me, I agree. I'm ALL for positivity but to completely disregard reality is pretty ridiculous in my view. In this case, it's not anecdotal evidence. It's pretty clearly established in our society that men of all ages are willing to date very young women and that women generally are not interested in men younger than them. For men out of college, it can be very difficult just to find women younger than them, much less finding women younger who are compatible

 

Making broad generalizations of this kind is just as bad. You have your experiences while they have theirs, so by the same token, disregarding or otherwise refuting their experiences is equally naive. They have good intentions of trying to get you to progress.

 

It's one thing to identify and recognize certain adversity in your life, but it's another to hide behind that adversity. I know that all too well myself.