fortyninethousand322 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Interpret this how you may, whether it's relationship experience or experience with physical stuff (making out, kissing, sex, etc.). But how important is it to you? Some posters have said that it's a big deal, others have said it's not at all, and even others have said that it's but one factor among many. From what I can gather, most people have at least made out/kissed by the time they are 20. I'm 24 and I've never. Not in high school, not in college. So, how big of an issue would this be if you were a woman between the ages of 20 and 27? Would it freak you out? Would you proceed with caution? Likewise, if you're a guy and you met a woman in a similar situation, how would you feel about it?
ThaWholigan Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 If I met a woman in a similar situation as me, I wouldn't feel any way about it. If we clicked, it would not matter to me. I encounter a lot of girls who don't like the inexperience, or at the very least are a little bit surprised by it. I have only met one who didn't care at all.
yongyong Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 As a guy, I don't care about being inexperienced. Actually I like women with little experience. I don't mind banging a girl who can ride and blow me well but I won't def marry a hoe like that. It doesn't bother me at all she is blushes, can't talk well because she is nervous. I don't care about her bed performance either since I can teach. It's different for girls though. If you think 'being inexperienced' can be a good factor (since that means you are 'clean') for women, you are wrong. If you don't act awkward around pretty woman and can bang her well without many experiences, then that's a plus. But I don't think you are going to do well without dealing with many women. Btw, this is America. Girls start sucking cocks around 15. If you are looking for a girl who has less experience than you, your only option is those nerdy, weird ones.
Casablanca Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Doesn't matter for me. Only one things matters for me, if they've been safe while engaging in sexual activities. I never want to know about experiences or how many, etc
Author fortyninethousand322 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 It's different for girls though. If you think 'being inexperienced' can be a good factor (since that means you are 'clean') for women, you are wrong. If you don't act awkward around pretty woman and can bang her well without many experiences, then that's a plus. But I don't think you are going to do well without dealing with many women. Btw, this is America. Girls start sucking cocks around 15. If you are looking for a girl who has less experience than you, your only option is those nerdy, weird ones. That's what I figured. It's interesting that 3 guys answered this thread but no women. I was hoping to get some female perspective...
RiverRunning Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 It depends: is he a Jesus freak who's 'waiting?' Not for me. Just never met the right person, never had the opportunity, etc.? That's different. I would be concerned because I'd worry that HE would wonder what it's like to be with others, and then he'd dump me. I'd be worried that HE would be bothered by my more-bountiful experience. But as for an issue solely for me? Not at all. I might move more slowly to determine if he's never had it just because he's a complete jerk, or because he didn't have the chance. First boyfriend and I were 19 when we first got dates. In my case, it was a lack of opportunity. In his case, he was just a complete jerk.
Imported Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 She's probably gonna think you're a freak. Keep putting it off until you're 40, then it'd be a joke and everybody can laugh.
ThaWholigan Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 That's what I figured. It's interesting that 3 guys answered this thread but no women. I was hoping to get some female perspective... Indeed. Needs more estrogen...
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Interpret this how you may, whether it's relationship experience or experience with physical stuff (making out, kissing, sex, etc.). But how important is it to you? Some posters have said that it's a big deal, others have said it's not at all, and even others have said that it's but one factor among many. From what I can gather, most people have at least made out/kissed by the time they are 20. I'm 24 and I've never. Not in high school, not in college. So, how big of an issue would this be if you were a woman between the ages of 20 and 27? Would it freak you out? Would you proceed with caution? Likewise, if you're a guy and you met a woman in a similar situation, how would you feel about it? This one time................................at band camp................. Virgins like to get it out of the way with hookers.Sometimes they even break into old style phone boxes and pay you in 20 cent pieces.Thats a whole lotta change...oops tangent......focus Virgins are nervous creatures unsure of what to do so they use an icebreakeror shoudl I say pay an icebreaker who then quite willingly shows them where it goes.I feel for virgins.Would love to be one again. In conclusion logically i would generally say(for usmchokies benefit so he can actually get the picture) that more experienced partners are able to .............mmmmmmmmmmmmmm provide satisfaction guaranteed....smilin....to the right person of course.In my opinion but i am bias
Author fortyninethousand322 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 Indeed. Needs more estrogen... Maybe we'll get lucky. The night is young right? Well you're in the UK so, "the morning is young"? 1
ThaWholigan Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Maybe we'll get lucky. The night is young right? Well you're in the UK so, "the morning is young"? The morning is young enough for my bed which I'm soon to touch...... 1
jobaba Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Not important. I could honestly say I would date a mid 30s woman (or older) who had never had a boyfriend. As long as she has general social experience, good enough. Plus vaginas on women tend be tighter if they have had less partners and especially if they have never had children. Oral would be tricky, but that stuff can be taught. Bananas and instructional videos. 1
mortensorchid Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Men AND women need experience. We both need to experience anger, hurt, pain and of course the ups and downs of life. My parents were high school sweethearts, never dated anyone else but each other, and apparently never did IT until they were married. I couldn't imagine that, but that was a different era. I find men who are inexperienced are rather uptight and want someone who is lesser than they are. I think that's how I've become rather jaded with men out there, because they are hiding the fact that they are inexperienced and don't want to admit it. But that's just my take on it. 1
mesmerized Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 It depends. Thewholigan claims to lack experience but he seems hell of a lot wiser than some man whores in this forum. So yeah, if a guy can prove to me he is mature and know what he wants, I can get past the inexperience part.
Author fortyninethousand322 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 Men AND women need experience. We both need to experience anger, hurt, pain and of course the ups and downs of life. My parents were high school sweethearts, never dated anyone else but each other, and apparently never did IT until they were married. I couldn't imagine that, but that was a different era. I find men who are inexperienced are rather uptight and want someone who is lesser than they are. I think that's how I've become rather jaded with men out there, because they are hiding the fact that they are inexperienced and don't want to admit it. But that's just my take on it. It depends. Thewholigan claims to lack experience but he seems hell of a lot wiser than some man whores in this forum. So yeah, if a guy can prove to me he is mature and know what he wants, I can get past the inexperience part. So for both of you, it sounds like the relationship experience is more important than physical experience. So for example it's more important that a guy know how to handle himself in a relationship rather than the fact that he knows how to kiss real well (or at all). Is that correct?
rocketman122 Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) 40YO who only dates older woman. I had to walk away from 3 that I dated, simply because they didnt know how to kiss. how the hell is it even possible for a mature woman to not know how to kiss. last one I dated was 60YO. gorgeous and very sexy. but after the 3rd date, I simply didnt call. to me kissing is the most basic of intimacy and if you cant kiss, it says a lot about you. A good kisser is one who doesnt push his style on you but can also change his style to suit the partner. to me, kissing is more intimate than the act of intercourse. I dont shove my tongue down their throats either like most men do. big mistake. what a shame. they were gorgeous woman and I felt bad about it but those I dated and knew how to kiss were also great lovers. also their hands were simply by their sides. when I kiss, my hands are all over them, caressing them all the time, not by my side. too passive for me. I simply dont call. I also wont date someone isnt touchy feely like me. I love hugging, touching, holding hands and one of those 3 were like that. I couldnt stand it. even when she held my hand it felt like I was holding hers. I dont believe in teaching. either you have it or you dont. Edited July 31, 2012 by rocketman122
Emilia Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 So for both of you, it sounds like the relationship experience is more important than physical experience. So for example it's more important that a guy know how to handle himself in a relationship rather than the fact that he knows how to kiss real well (or at all). Is that correct? To me it's both because the two are linked. My last ex was rather inexperienced at the age of 27 for cultural reasons rather than because of social anxiety. This meant several things that I have already learned and didn't really feel like going through with another person again: he had no idea how to build intimacy in bed but allowed his weird little pent-up fantasies to dominate which was extremely awkward to me; he had no idea how to kiss and to be fair he wasn't really learning (and we had a few opportunities together); he had no sexual finesse and he didn't really understand conflict resolution skills and the consequences of controlling behaviour towards the other person. It was a disaster and I would have not dated him if I had understood the extent of his inexperience. He basically made some of it up and that showed through once dating started getting more serious.
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Physical and relationship experience is extremely important to me and inexperience is a dealbreaker considering how often it seems inexperienced guys are quite misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful towards women.
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Physical and relationship experience is extremely important to me and inexperience is a dealbreaker considering how often it seems inexperienced guys are quite misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful towards women. how do you know that inexperienced guys are that way have you been with many.....this is outside the box......the inexperienced guys have dated women who dont know how to teach and who are only concerned with lying back and on a mattress and planning the next mattress excursion.That is quite possible. They expect a man to just do it and know their body better than what they know....how imaginative of them....kudos......pffttttttt..you gotta start somewhere ....women arent experts either.gay guys give better head apparently....i mean to men.....I hung out with trannies and gay guys in nuns habits ok......they gossip.deb
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 how do you know that inexperienced guys are that way have you been with many.....this is outside the box......the inexperienced guys have dated women who dont know how to teach and who are only concerned with lying back and on a mattress and planning the next mattress excursion.That is quite possible. They expect a man to just do it and know their body better than what they know....how imaginative of them....kudos......pffttttttt..you gotta start somewhere ....women arent experts either.gay guys give better head apparently....i mean to men.....I hung out with trannies and gay guys in nuns habits ok......they gossip.deb I've known many I haven't been with many. Quite unsure why for you I'd need to have been with many to form an opinion. Really unsure how "often it seems inexperienced guys are misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful towards women" is related to expecting a man to just do it, women not being experts either, and gay guys give better head.
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I've known many I haven't been with many. Quite unsure why for you I'd need to have been with many to form an opinion. Really unsure how "often it seems inexperienced guys are misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful towards women" is related to expecting a man to just do it, women not being experts either, and gay guys give better head. meaning women are not experts and neither are guys and inexperienced women are not called misandrists.Everybody has flaws doesnt make them hateful or bitter.women or men. As far as the gay guy goes Its a point of a man being able to please a man better than an experienced woman now what does that say about inexperience. That guys can do it better than an experienced female. Its about equal in the inexperienced department and has nothing to do with hateful or bitter just inexperience which comes with time and its not a bitter against women thing.
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 meaning women are not experts and neither are guys and inexperienced women are not called misandrists.Everybody has flaws doesnt make them hateful or bitter.women or men. As far as the gay guy goes Its a point of a man being able to please a man better than an experienced woman now what does that say about inexperience. That guys can do it better than an experienced female. Its about equal in the inexperienced department and has nothing to do with hateful or bitter just inexperience which comes with time and its not a bitter against women thing. Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that women are experts. From my accounts inexperienced women often have other labels attributed to them such as prudish, virtuous, chaste, more moral, and such. Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that being inexperienced was a flaw so I'm unsure why you used "everybody has flaws". I didn't state being inexperienced means you're hateful or bitter I stated often it seems inexperienced guys are misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful. Keywords "it seems" and I get this impression from the amount of inexperienced guys I've known and the amount of misogyny and hate from inexperienced guys who resent and blame women for their sitatuion. As for your point a gay guy pleasing a man better than an experienced woman doesn't say anything about experience to me rather says something about skill level. Such as for me two women having the same amount of experience but one pleases men better says something about one is better skilled more than one is more experienced.
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that women are experts. From my accounts inexperienced women often have other labels attributed to them such as prudish, virtuous, chaste, more moral, and such. Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that being inexperienced was a flaw so I'm unsure why you used "everybody has flaws". I didn't state being inexperienced means you're hateful or bitter I stated often it seems inexperienced guys are misogynistic, hateful, bitter, or resentful. Keywords "it seems" and I get this impression from the amount of inexperienced guys I've known and the amount of misogyny and hate from inexperienced guys who resent and blame women for their sitatuion. As for your point a gay guy pleasing a man better than an experienced woman doesn't say anything about experience to me rather says something about skill level. Such as for me two women having the same amount of experience but one pleases men better says something about one is better skilled more than one is more experienced. I would class being called a misoyginist bitter women hater just a little bit flawed you did mention words such as this in regards to inexperienced men.So that is what i was posting about...and again I made a joke out of it in the first post I made..I meant no disrespect.
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I would class being called a misoyginist bitter women hater just a little bit flawed you did mention words such as this in regards to inexperienced men.So that is what i was posting about...and again I made a joke out of it in the first post I made..I meant no disrespect. I define a misogynist as hating women as well and my accounts have been that often inexperienced men are misogynists, hateful, bitter, or resentful towards women. It's not just a little bit flawed to mention misogynist in regards to inexperienced men as they can be misogynists just as experienced men, gay men, and women can be. Seems the flaw here is thinking I'm stating being inexperienced is hating women rather my accounts are that often inexperienced men hate women.
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