Radu Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 don't worry, for men it's VERY possible to enjoy the benefits of a relationship while banging others on the side, they've been doing it since the dawn of the time and will still do it 5 trillion years from now. only women know the true meaning of loyalty (women in general, not you, obviously), no wonder they are called the "fairer" sex. You are completely right. Women have fought side by side, sisters, in wars since the dawn of time, creating a loyalty to one another. In the end the only ones who are guilty for the 100k babies identified in the US alone each yr, to not belong to the man who was lead to believe he fathered them is just he, the foolish father.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Why are you such a misandrist? Leave it to you to be the only female I can think of whos just as bad as the male sock trolls on this site. Just as many women cheat as men. And there are many guys who are loyal and only have sex with the woman they love once they are committed. Me being one of them. Once I fall for a chick, shes the only girl I want to be intimate with. He says the same thing. He said the threesome was a fun thing we tried at the begining, and not something he feels the desire to repeat. He says he has been into two girls in his whole life: me and his ex. He felt the same about her - he would have had a threesome with her too, but since he fell for us, he has no need to make it anything other than a one time, fun thing. You know, it is sort of negative to assume is is out right lying... I think he know how he feels, and is being honest with me. He sais that it is just HIM; that no matter how into a girl he is, he will ALWAYS think a threesome with two hot babes is appealing. It is just where he has come from. It does NOT mean he is not into me, and therefore needs other girls. He has said he doesn't want other girls again. It was a one time threeeome, pushed by me actually. No one here knows ANdrew, and has ANY evience he is lying. I am the one who knows him best. People should just trust I am a good judge of character, and that is is being honest with me. There is no evidence to suggest he is being anything but honest - based on his actions towards me, the sort of person he is, and what his friends say about him. He is a known nice guy.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 My bf and I think posting about him on here is bad news and unhealthy. Without loveshack, we were alwways happy and did not feel our love was shakable or questionable. At all. So, him and I agreed that I will just tae my issues with him to my therapist. I love him a great deal, and will not lie to him. Not posting about us anymore will be easy. My love is strong enough to make it easy to not lie to him. My boyfriend maintains that throughout life, he was always in the popul;ar group, and had a lot of girls around him his entire life. He was very cute growing up in high school. Yet, his ex and I are vastl;y different from other girls he grew up with, and we are the only girls he has had very strong feelings for, and loved. He just thinks having two hot girls in a threesome, with no strings attached, is HIM; that he could do this to ANY GIRL he was deaply in love with, as a fun time thing. He NEVER said he could go around, hooking upleft right and centre. Both his ex and I , at one stage, told him to go and hook up with others and he chose not to, because he loved us. I have seen him in actino, hot girls are drawn to him because he is a great talker , to women, and quiet attractive. He is glad I researched it, though, and that we can not tread carefully, ad re consider what we truly want and what he consequences may be. Honestly - I think it is normal for young and naive folk like us, to assume that " gee, there are other ways besides being monogomus for your entire life". Being with the same person your entire life is not something all 20 something people, who are not that experienced with relationships, want to hear. But the idea does not scare us, either; it does not fill us with dread. The idea of being together forever, with no other people, no hookers, no nothing, is fine by him, and not a depressing thought. Just because we COULD be with one person forever, sexually and otherwuise, does not mean the idea feels like the ONLY way to go about relationships to us, though. We will just see how it goes, ad if we are together for al ong time, I guess we can always re visit the idea. With caution. If we do at all.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Leigh, if you are IRL how you are on this message board then yes I do think your BF without a doubt loves you. He'd have to, just to tolerate your obsessiveness with this issue. I do think he loves you, desires you, etc. I think he thinks he hit the jackpot because you are "into" the idea of a more open sexual relationship than is considered normal. My concern about you and your R is not whether or not Andrew is into you or loves you. It's whether or not the things you engage in with him are truly things YOU want. If you had a new partner, if you and Andrew broke up, and your new BF was not into sex with anyone but you forever and ever...would you still feel that you can not be satisfied with just one sexual partner for the rest of your life? You say that you and Andrew are in agreement on this, and if so great! You found someone compatible. But I wonder and worry that you are just appeasing him, you like it because he likes it. If a diff guy didn't like it, would you still desire the variety? I don't think you would. I hope I am wrong... ANd yes, he did think he hit the "jackpot" with me, because he is from a culture that strongly suggests that a threesome with two hot babes = AWESOMENESS. And he has tollerated FAR MORE than what you mentioned. I am getting over some huge issues. He has seen me in very sorry states................................. NO man, if he was nto in love, would tollerate it. I feel like I can actually guarantee it. And he is nto a loser with nothing better to do, than bother with a head case of a girlfriend!! NOT unless he was in love or really into the girl! He hoenstly has a life and is not one to bother with things he is not bvery passionate about. I even told him straight up ' look man, I SHOULD NOT be in a relationship quiet yet - soon, I am working through issues, but not YET...let it go,m and if it is meant to be, it will". He will have none of it. Times he LETS me have time off, we end up too in love to be apart. The more time apart, the more we feel we should be together. I have even sent him on a trip, telling him we are young, and he should go and be young, hook up, and when he wants to settle down, to come back to me IF he wants to. He would have none of it. And if I put his picture on here, I can 100% promise most peope would find him attractive. He has never had trouble getting girls. Although he still did not like hooking up often, and having to bother with them, and he always had to have a GIRL make the first move - otherwise he was scared to ruin a friendship; hence the hookers. It was not fantastic chemistry we had, or compatability, we just had a strange feeling rfom when we first met, something that also makes us not be able to be rid of each other when we try to be apart. It is not actually GOOD news! I wished at times, we could just let each other go, so I cam heal and get therapy. But we cannot seam to stay apart I don't know. Maybe we can be apart, but remain in contact? No contact is not feasible. We simple are too attached and to big of a part of each others hearts and lives to just not talk again. I am not sure what to do. Going no contact with a man who claims to be madl yin love with me, does not sound logical.
Trimmer Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) My bf and I think posting about him on here is bad news and unhealthy. I think this is a brilliant insight that you guys came up with all by yourselves there... Without loveshack, we were alwways happy and did not feel our love was shakable or questionable. At all. So, him and I agreed that I will just tae my issues with him to my therapist. You could have stopped right there, but then you went on to rehash things for another 10-12 paragraphs... This is meant as helpful advice: stop talking. Edited July 11, 2012 by Trimmer 2
veggirl Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Leigh...WHAT??? Now you are talking about taking a break or breaking up ?! :confused::confused: Where is that coming from?
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Leigh...WHAT??? Now you are talking about taking a break or breaking up ?! :confused::confused: Where is that coming from? I recently suggested it to him. I said I am obviously not in a healthy head space for a relationship. It is not fair on him, if I keep questioning things, when he swears he is in love with me, and blablaba He just wants to be happy with me. I am just so confused about everything, regarding our threesome we had ages ago. I was NOT confused before loveshack, though:( I just felt that we had the best, most loving and close relationship. It was obvious he was crazy about me and in love with me People on here make out like he will one day find a girl he is truly in love with, and never be able to live out his threesome fantasy again It makes me feel like well, even though he claims to love me, he must not be able to love me if he was ABLE to have the threesome. Maybe I should let him go, if he truly loves me, surely he would not forget about me. It just confuses the heck out of me, that this man claims to be in love with me as much as he CAN be with a person. It confuses me that he SWEARS that he would be able to have a threesome with ANY girl he really loves; and he will never magically meet " the right girl" that will make him FORGET his threesome fantasy. He just thinks it is a fantasy he will always have, but that it has nothing to DO with sex with one women; that he would, in a heartbeat, be totally fine with monogomy forever, witha girl he loves. That a threesome is just a fun option if a girl WANTS it. I am sure a lot of people on here will think I should let him go, so he can find a girl he truly loves:( ..while I am sittig here, listening to him swear to me that he is in love with me. he says he would never cheat, never has, and is totally into me. His actions in real life show he IS. I guess I am too confused to know who to believe anymore. It sucks, because I will be stuck here, desperately in love with a guy for a LONG time.... In fact, I do not think it is a love I can switch off. I will just have to learn to live with it:( I guess I will leave him be.
veggirl Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Leigh! RELAX!!!! Your boyfriend OBVIOUSLY loves you. No one has said (that I have read) that your BF does not love you. If they have said that, they have not read most of your story IMO but rather a few threads here and there. Okay, people say "if I am in love I could never share, never have a threesome" I get that. That has NOTHING to do with your R. They are sharing what works for THEM. Honestly, the way you talk about the threesome thing with Andrew, you make it sound like it happens a lot, YOU make it sound like a bigger deal than it is. You make it sound like it plays a huge part in your R. No one else. You do that! If it is not a big deal to you, DON'T post about it so much. You are TOO defensive about it. You need to decide for yourself what you want and what is right in your R. If that includes an occasional threesome then so be it. Who cares? No one is judging you for that. No one cares if you want to indulge your mans fantasy of a threesome, that is your choice no one elses. Why do you care what random strangers on LS think of that choice? You do not need our approval. If you are happy and your R works for you then that's great!! Don't worry about what other people think. We are not living your life, you and Andrew are happy and you enjoy your sex life. That's what matters. That's all!
pteromom Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 he says he would never cheat, never has, and is totally into me. His actions in real life show he IS. So if his actions show you that he is totally into you and loves you, who cares what a bunch of strangers on the internet think? YOU are the one who knows him. YOU are the one who knows whether you are happy or not. YOU are the one who sees the whole picture. Trust yourself. If you are OK with your boyfriends attitudes toward love and sex, and you do believe he loves you, and you know he wouldn't hurt you or leave you or cheat, then what's the problem? He has said that he doesn't need another threesome, so let the past go and move forward. It seems he is willing to move forward with just you, so why can't you? Now - if you really AREN'T ok with his attitudes toward love and sex, and your gut is screaming at you that something is wrong here, you should pay attention to that. But don't pay attention to us! Not when it comes to major decisions regarding your RL relationship.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Veg girl - your right, Andrew thinks exactly the same way... " man, why on earth would you need aproval of strangers, what the HELL?" The only thing that got me, is after one poster on here went into great detail about how Andrew is not IN love with me, but merely loves me; because gus IN love can not physically have other girls, in any capacity. It almost ruined out relationship. I went from thinking we were madly in love and that it is just such a good thing we had going, to thinking " hmm, this guy is very experienced and sounds like he is adamant that Andrew must not be in love with me. The guy on here claims that when a man is IN love, he simple can NOT have threesomes, even if it is a thought he has entertained since he was very young; even if he was raised in a culture where ALL his friends think it is just AWESOME to have a girlfriend and a hot babe in a threesome. ya know, I am not a girl who will bother with a guy who is not into me! And my reality, is that Andrew displays every sign he IS into me. I was not aware that the ability to have a threesome, meant he was not into me. Yet just about every person on here seams to think that threesome = not into you.
veggirl Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Veg girl - your right, Andrew thinks exactly the same way... " man, why on earth would you need aproval of strangers, what the HELL?" The only thing that got me, is after one poster on here went into great detail about how Andrew is not IN love with me, but merely loves me; because gus IN love can not physically have other girls, in any capacity. It almost ruined out relationship. I went from thinking we were madly in love and that it is just such a good thing we had going, to thinking " hmm, this guy is very experienced and sounds like he is adamant that Andrew must not be in love with me. The guy on here claims that when a man is IN love, he simple can NOT have threesomes, even if it is a thought he has entertained since he was very young; even if he was raised in a culture where ALL his friends think it is just AWESOME to have a girlfriend and a hot babe in a threesome. ya know, I am not a girl who will bother with a guy who is not into me! And my reality, is that Andrew displays every sign he IS into me. I was not aware that the ability to have a threesome, meant he was not into me. Yet just about every person on here seams to think that threesome = not into you. Leigh, people IN LOVE have participated in orgies, threesomes, swinging, etc for ages. There are MANY people who would not be okay with sexually sharing their partner. Obviously. But so what? That is not everyone. We are all different. You need to be okay. Your sexual relationship with Andrew may not ALWAYS be "the norm" but it doesn't have to be.
CarrieT Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 V The only thing that got me, is after one poster on here went into great detail about how Andrew is not IN love with me, but merely loves me; because gus IN love can not physically have other girls, in any capacity. It almost ruined out relationship. Read this, Leigh. You let ONE poster on this board get to you to the point that it almost ruined your relationship. See that? ONE anonymous opinion sent you to a state of questioning your relationship. THAT right there is why I have continually suggested therapy... What is it in you that is seeking the opinions - over and over and over - of anonymous people online? It is not healthy. V Yet just about every person on here seams to think that threesome = not into you. No, no, no. Not every person on here. So many people have told you the opposite and why (for some reason none of us can understand), you attach yourself to one negative opinion and run with it to the destruction of your relationship and your well-being. THIS type of recurring attitude is what you need to deal with and investigate. What causes you to do this repetitively? Moreso than your relationship issues, I believe you need to look inside yourself and determine why you have an addiction to over-sharing your personal woes and sexual exploits online. You post the same thing continually - and have done so for at least a year - to the point where you question your own existence. There have been so many threads where you ramble on for paragraphs on end, saying the same thing over and over as though you are trying to convince yourself of something you don't really believe. It is THIS very issue that has made me continually suggested therapy to you - and not just one visit with a friend. When you saw your therapist, did you describe your online behavior? Because like a porn addiction, I believe you have a self-help/Loveshack addiction that should be worked on as well.
without Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 If you are both so happy about all these, why are you trying this hard defending it here?
without Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 What causes you to do this repetitively? Do you know why? Doubt my friend. Doubt.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Carrie T - I am going to look into finding a new therapist. Although it helped to just be able to talk to my old one, perhaps I need to dig deaper witha new person. I think I cause drama for no reason, when there are no problems ( there truly ARENT; we are in a loving, healthy relationbship with no cheating ir remote worries of that stuff). I think I am a drama queen and find things to pick at, because I am not busy enough or satisfied enough in my own life. I am working towards getting a job ( appling, going to interviews in the career I want to be in) and I am about to study a short course as a back up career plan. I can then go to Uni once I gain employment and open even more doors with a degree, while I work and earn a living. Direction and options in terms of my career, liking the foundations of my personality, and believing in myself are all I have going for me. Otherwise, I have gained a lot of weight, got not job yet ( and NO money to do anything besides eat, when I am a person who LOEVS adventure and road trips and cannot even afford that) and have no friends. I do not feel accomplished with my academic pursuits, and feel pretty bloody hopeless; all the while, I do like myself genuinely, and think I am a reall lovely person. My bf and I think I need to work on learning to be adopt a positive and happy outlook, regardless of the situation; I mean, when I was in top shape and was very thin and in peak fitness, I was still not satisfied most of the time, and felt bad about my weight at times. Not with anorexia - but I have that nature in me. Carrie T - I have told my boyfriend that I am not in the mindset for a relationship, but I am VERY self aware and open to help - and therefore if I have a will, I will find a way to be " remedied". We simply feel too in love to just NOT talk...... I have tried to have time off from him several times, but we end up together within a few days - we feel that life is too short to not hug each other tightly at night. We have decided to see each other less, while I do intensive work on mself and my life. I am good at knowing a lot of steps I need to take, I am just lazy at inacting them. But lately it has hit me; I have a chance at having a very fulfilling, loving relationship with my boyfriend, or I will lose him if I do not change. Luckily, I know he loves me for ME, and do not feel pressure to look a certain way, or get a certain job. I am safe in that regard, in that he onl wants me to do my best and my a good version of myself. .......................After not applying the lessons I have learnt, and making changes, I have reached a stage now where life is not satisfying when I have issues right in front of me, and I refuse to take action.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 The first thing I am going to do, for my boyfriend, is to stop questioning things with us. I am at peace with the fact that he may fall in love with another girl, because I know I will be fine in the end. I know I am capable of overcoming heart break. I know I will do it, because I love him and he wants me to stop this. He just wants to be happy with me, and for me to trust what he says. He thinks it is mind numbing, the fact I question if he is truly in love with me... when it is very obvious that he is. In my real life - not via descriptions over the internet... We were happy before I questioned things on loveshack, after we overcamer the initial sexual issues that he stepped up and faced, because I was worth it to him. I guess I felt the need to change peoples ignorance. About sex outside of your relationships, and I also had doubt about myself as a person, so my insecurity probably led me to ask questions about our relationship ( which I know I would get negative reinforcement for, and therefore use as fuel for " I am not enough for him).
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 I am selfish - to have come on here and gone against my loved ones wishes. And people on here can only comment on OBVIOUS things, like a husband who cheats multiple times = a scumbag. Most women should not take cheaters back, besides exepctions. Obvious labels. Or when a guy is out cheating and flirting with other women, and the women wonders what to do. Like really? Although I DID get SOME useful advice out of it: that the fact we are young ish, and think we can easil be in love and have threesomes occasionall rather than have sex with the one person who years.. I learnt that it is risky to involve even meaningless one night stands into your relationship. So - at least we will not go down that road, because in theory it made sense to us.
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I had never met a person, before I found my bf, who claimed to KNOW what another person THOUGHT. Well, maybe you haven't MET one, but you certainly encounter them every day here. This forum and others like it are devoted to conjecture about what somebody else (who isn't the one posting) thinks, feels or meant. If you and your partner are completely happy with it, then the problem isn't in your relationship, the problem is that you continue posting about it. And worse yet, THINKING about it and obsessively picking and shredding at in in conversation with Andrew. I cannot imagine anyone who wanted to have sex adventures without any fallout being able to tolerate this level of … fallout. Leigh, I like you and care about you and your well-being, but you are totally exhausting. Andrew must be made of stone (or maybe just really really stoned ) to be able to deal. am just so confused about everything, regarding our threesome we had ages ago. I was NOT confused before loveshack, though Let's not rewrite history. You were very active on LoveShack with this exact same pattern of posting before you even met Andrew. THIS is the reason I think you need to get serious about therapy. Obsessive and probably compulsive behavior. Regarding the actual topic title: there are plenty of people engaging in alternative relationship styles, and hoards of others who disapprove of them for it. If you are going to take the road less travelled, you need to deal with the reactions of society at large. If you CAN'T, and you obviously can't, then either don't take the "alternative" path because you don't have the confidence to be okay doing so - or stop telling the whole world about it and seeking its approval. You won't get it. From my perspective, I do not think you really can handle the sex adventures. You have too many control issues about your boyfriend's sexuality and how its expressed. That is not the mindset for 100% carefree recreational sex. And using another person as a "human sex toy," as you wrote earlier, rubs me the wrong way a lot.
utterer of lies Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 If you are both so happy about all these, why are you trying this hard defending it here? I think it's her way of dealing with cognitive dissonance.
sally4sara Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 To me, I would not feel right if he were to have a meaningful sexual encounter. That involves passionate kissing, foreplay, etc. To me, that is a knife in the heart. It is cheating. I could not handle him WANTING to have " meaningful" sex. With anyone else. What I am okay with, is to use another women as a human sex toy. That is why we used a hooker. We discussed it, and he does not WANT the whole package with another girl; he did not WANT intimacy, forplay, and a connection. He literally wanted a new vagina to stick his d*ck in. This is really tasteless. You say the both of you feel sex with one person for the rest or your lives is not a good idea. That opinion does not make you unique. Swingers, poly partners have been around for longer than contract marriage and monogamy. But they don't require the people they interact with fore go pleasure. What is disturbing is that you would prefer these other partners be used and disregarded. If you're also both fine with just each other - why not do that rather than go about using women as sex toys. That's cold, cruel especially when anything other than causes you to feel bad. You sound sado. He is basically saying he just wants to bang a hole that gets no pleasure out of it - he sounds sado too. And no, you do not feel that sex with one person your whole life is a bad idea or you too would be looking for other male partners. This is just how your insecurities have manifested. You think without letting him do this, your stock will go down in his eyes. You want to offer something you think other women will not so you can feel assured that he won't move on to someone else. Why would he leave me - I let him use other women! No dear. He did that before you and you don't think enough of yourself to find a guy who wouldn't treat others like toys. You're not letting him do something; you're giving him life as he knew it just to be his main dish along for the ride. Just because we have a " theory" that two people in love, should not necessarily have ONE sexual partner for ever, it does not mean we want to explore that right away, if at all. If you're so sure of how "we" feel about having sex with others - ask for some reciprocity. You want another threesome with a guy added instead of a girl. Bet you'll find out "we" don't agree as much as YOU thought.
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 And no, you do not feel that sex with one person your whole life is a bad idea or you too would be looking for other male partners. This is just how your insecurities have manifested. You think without letting him do this, your stock will go down in his eyes. You want to offer something you think other women will not so you can feel assured that he won't move on to someone else. Why would he leave me - I let him use other women! No dear. He did that before you and you don't think enough of yourself to find a guy who wouldn't treat others like toys. You're not letting him do something; you're giving him life as he knew it just to be his main dish along for the ride. I'm afraid this is the truth. And I am fine with all kinds of alternative relationship styles, as long as they are healthy for the people involved.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Sally4Sara. I am a very nice person, actually, but I do not see anything "wrong" with meaningless sex for men. I personally cannot do it, but a lot of men can. Look, hookers need the money, so wanting to use their bodys for meaingless sex does not make Andrew or ANY man a bad person. A bad person, is when a person is un kind, treats other people around him bad, and has no compassion for anyone. Bad people set out to hurt people, and do not care about other people, and onl themselves. They lie and cheat and steal from people. The reason we decided to just be monogomus forever, is because he said he could not handle me having sex with another guy. And I actually could not fool around with other men - I need FEELINGS to be able to be sexual with people. On the other hand, Andrew can have meaningless sex with people, and has done his WHOLE life, bar TWO girls. I can : - only have sex with love, in a committed relationship - can fool around without love, but the person has to like and respect me, and vise versa - can fool around without getting attached, but still have to like and enjo the persons company. FWB is ideal for me in that regard. I don;t care if we see other people, but we are still close. I am not alloud to have threesomes with men, so he can't with women. I WANTED the first threesomes, ages ago, because I was curious about girls and wanted to experiment, and I enjoyed the voyeuristic side.. HOWEVER, that was a bit of fun, and NOT somethinig I am, prepared to give him again. I thought long term monogomy was not for me, and maybe it won't be. I am OKAY with just him for years I have discovered. I actually do not need to mess around with others. I guess I just think it is more unnatural and not ideal for MEN to have the ONE sexual partner for their entire lives. I see nothing wrong with letting your long term hubby or partner have a hooker once ever year. I do not think them having meaningless sex with a hooker once every two years or so means the are unhappy with you, or less in love. It just means they do not have to have sex with just he one women for years at a time.
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 I truly think that some men who are madly in love, would still prefer sex with more than one women during their lifetime. If a guy falls in love at 25, and stays with the girl for most of his life, I just .... don't think it is ideal or the BEST outcome, to NEVER have sex with other women. And sall 4sara - Andrew treats me very well every single day, his dail actions and the way he is with me is very touching, respectful, and make sme very happy. I HAVE self respect, and will NEVEr put up with a guy who does not adore me and treat me very well.
sally4sara Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Sally4Sara. I am a very nice person, actually, but I do not see anything "wrong" with meaningless sex for men. I personally cannot do it, but a lot of men can. This is a belief adopted by many to explain why doing so isn't a deplorable thing to do to someone. Some adopt it because they want to believe a guy who cheated on them when he says "baby she didn't matter to me; not like YOU DO". And others adopt it to not have to examine their own action: "I'm not a bad guy; its just how guys are." It isn't a male trait or ability. Its a cold hearted person's ability. And puleez! He did it because hookers need money!
Author Leigh 87 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 This is a belief adopted by many to explain why doing so isn't a deplorable thing to do to someone. Some adopt it because they want to believe a guy who cheated on them when he says "baby she didn't matter to me; not like YOU DO". And others adopt it to not have to examine their own action: "I'm not a bad guy; its just how guys are." It isn't a male trait or ability. Its a cold hearted person's ability. And puleez! He did it because hookers need money! You do realize that I do not see eye to ee with you? I do not agree with your views. It is easy for perfectly good people to have sex with hookers. And you have no wa of knowing how my partner feels about me, if why he went to a hooker ( and if it was because he was NOT deaply in love with me) So there is no use trying to post on this thread. I do not believe a work you say. It is utter nonsense to me. And he did not ask to go out and cheat. I wanted to try a threesome. There would be no " oh baby I need other women, a hooker means nothing" with me, sweatheart. I would only do it because I wanted to try it. I happen to now want to try it now, so he will have to put up with monogomy, with no other people inolved, or find a girl he loves enough to be faithful to.
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