ikele Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 conventional wisdom says be honest, but in today's modern dating that doesn't produce results for certain men. a short list of items where honesty is not the best policy. please add to it based on your experience. if you've cheated before. you don't want to wave this one in from of her until later. much later. if you are a virgin. even more so if you are 25 and up. never tell her this until the i do's are exchanged. she will turn tail and run. lack of enough longer term relationships. see above. too many eg a hundred sex partners. cut it down to 5-10 and she won't know the difference. bad habits. don't wolunteer negatives wanting sex early on isn't one of them. women like it when a man knows what he wants and goes for it.
WonderKid Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I like it when a woman knows what "she" wants and goes for it. Some women are single today because they want for a guy to take all the action. Honesty is never used in dating. Everyone lies and if they say they didn't; they're lying. I even would lie. Never play your cards early. Keep'em guessing. I just don't lie about big things but other things yes. Because a woman will tell a guy "anything" and because guys are so stupid, we'll believe it.
Author ikele Posted July 5, 2012 Author Posted July 5, 2012 I like it when a woman knows what "she" wants and goes for it. Some women are single today because they want for a guy to take all the action. Honesty is never used in dating. Everyone lies and if they say they didn't; they're lying. I even would lie. Never play your cards early. Keep'em guessing. I just don't lie about big things but other things yes. Because a woman will tell a guy "anything" and because guys are so stupid, we'll believe it. i know mostly men as buddies. the men that do the worst at dating are the worst liars. the correlation is uncanny. not lying when its in order puts them at an extreme disadvantage and gives the woman the power in the relationship. when the women had all the power, it aint lasting long.
carhill Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Regardless of the adjectives used, the person who cares less about any one particular interaction is generally going to receive a relatively (to their level of care) more positive result. This can be the extreme confidence man (criminal) or the widely attractive smooth talker which women flock to, and everything in between. The principals are the same. The difficulty, if one unwittingly encounters a habitual liar, is that such people generally believe everyone else to be lying or deceptive and deal with others upon that premise. It really becomes a lose-lose scenario. In generations past, romantic potentials were often vetted by families and friends and came with a certain 'pedigree' as to their social stature, character and reputation for veracity. As our society has become more disconnected, such encounters are now increasingly with relative unknown persons, with the attendant risks. I would agree that, when a woman thinks she has one over on a man, as example by successfully lying to/deceiving him, she loses respect for him, even if the lie/deceit was merely a 'test'. He has shown himself to not be 'street smart' and that is an unattractive quality in a man for many women. It ties into security and protection instincts. If she can successfully manipulate him, so can others. Poor choice in a mate. Honesty may not always be the best policy but it certainly is a healthy quality to have as a human being. Each word and action is a choice, with consequences. If departing from authentic and honest discourse, be sure to weigh those consequences carefully. This brings us back to care. 1
yongyong Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Honesty is for fools. When you sell your car, do you describe all the little problems they can't see it at the moment? Obviously the buyer would appreciate your Honesty but he won't Buy it. Do it Like Everyone else. Everybody lies and doesn't say something they are not required to disclose by the law.
Titanwolf Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I'd rather be an honest fool. I don't know when it became cool to deceive and be good at it. **** like that used to get your limps swiped off back in the day. Honesty isn't a weakness for those who value honour and integrity. For everyone else? well that's our society for you.
carhill Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Honesty is for fools. When you sell your car, do you describe all the little problems they can't see it at the moment? Obviously the buyer would appreciate your Honesty but he won't Buy it. Do it Like Everyone else. Everybody lies and doesn't say something they are not required to disclose by the law. Here in Cali, there are disclosure laws regarding auto and home sales, amongst other business activities. I deal with them every day in my profession. People still lie, of course. If they get caught, they pay the price. Out here, they might end up in a standpipe fertilizing grape vines. Choices have consequences. It's always smart to be mindful of them.
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