Feelsgoodman Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 It might be a bit embarrassing if she met you at Starbucks looking like But she could carry the entire assortment of Starbucks desserts on that plate 1
Titanwolf Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 This is a very spurious [non] point. Pedophiles repulse you, right? Well what if one day you get into a car accident and the person in the ambulance is a pervert who likes kids, will that legitimize pedophilia in your eyes? We could need help from anyone at some point, this much is true. But that doesn't make something above criticism, or our instincts any less legitimate from a societal point of view. And by the way, right now I'm interested in a female whose got a few tattoos, it's not a big deal to me, but that doesn't mean women who have things like a tattoo of a foot on their foot (yes, I've seen this, TWICE in the last month) aren't really, really stupid. There is a kind of personality drawn to getting tattoos (with a couple of notable exceptions, I stress) and exotic piercings, typically one of extreme individualism and narcissism, and that's the kind of personality I hate. If you expect me not to judge someone who puts a bone through their nose in 21st century NYC, then nobody better judge me if I go outside in a ballerina tutu or a SS uniform. It is not wise to assume. 1) Paedophiles don't repulse me 2)apples and oranges. I don't know why you'd compare paedophilia to tattoos. There's nothing illegitimate about tattoos unless you live in Japan. Fair enough, it's not accepted by some but that still doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it, it just means we're cut from a different cloth, a product of nurturing. Again though, the first thing that springs to mind when I think of a tattoo, is something meaningful, something worthwhile to the individual (some have stories). I don't think about a foot tattoo on a foot come on man, even I know that's bad taste. I'm thinking of tasteful ear piercing(s) and meaningful tattoos and everyone else seems to think of bones through noses and plates in mouths T_T. I can honestly say, I wouldn't judge you if you did decide to go out wearing that. I've seen people wear a lot more "interesting" outfits outdoors and the first thing that springs to mind is "He/She is having a good time (lulz) you only live once, why not?". Maybe I don't belong here.
carhill Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 The OP wrote: "I said, "Yeah, sorry, no offense...but facial piercings on a woman don't do it for me." He made no comments on her intrinsic personal worth, value, character, or any other aspect of her intellect, emotional stability or, even tangentially, physical appearance. He simply stated that facial piercings on a woman didn't do it for him. In return she made negative character and value judgements of him. Hence, #4 is most accurate, in a very unladylike manner and unbecoming of her educational and intellectual stature: She was just venting at me, because she was rejected? If I had a fµcking nickel for every woman who rejected me because I was prematurely bald....and that isn't even something I could control. Then again, I wasn't raised to be the expert at the cutting insult, and am not. Hence, my prior post. BTDT, witnessed the mouth. Pass... 4
KR10N Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 It is not wise to assume. 1) Paedophiles don't repulse me 2)apples and oranges. I don't know why you'd compare paedophilia to tattoos. There's nothing illegitimate about tattoos unless you live in Japan. Fair enough, it's not accepted by some but that still doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it, it just means we're cut from a different cloth, a product of nurturing. Again though, the first thing that springs to mind when I think of a tattoo, is something meaningful, something worthwhile to the individual (some have stories). I don't think about a foot tattoo on a foot come on man, even I know that's bad taste. I'm thinking of tasteful ear piercing(s) and meaningful tattoos and everyone else seems to think of bones through noses and plates in mouths T_T. I can honestly say, I wouldn't judge you if you did decide to go out wearing that. I've seen people wear a lot more "interesting" outfits outdoors and the first thing that springs to mind is "He/She is having a good time (lulz) you only live once, why not?". Maybe I don't belong here. My question is: How the hell is a pedophile going to be an EMT? Background-checks, people. Seriously, WhoShallOverCome...? What the hell? 2
KR10N Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 The OP wrote: "I said, "Yeah, sorry, no offense...but facial piercings on a woman don't do it for me." He made no comments on her intrinsic personal worth, value, character, or any other aspect of her intellect, emotional stability or, even tangentially, physical appearance. He simply stated that facial piercings on a woman didn't do it for him. In return she made negative character and value judgements of him. Hence, #4 is most accurate, in a very unladylike manner and unbecoming of her educational and intellectual stature: She was just venting at me, because she was rejected? If I had a fµcking nickel for every woman who rejected me because I was prematurely bald....and that isn't even something I could control. Then again, I wasn't raised to be the expert at the cutting insult, and am not. Hence, my prior post. BTDT, witnessed the mouth. Pass...Maybe one of those women will go bald and grow a beard. It happens.
Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Wait wait wait, so if I find this thread completely dumb, should I say that or should I just not respond and sign out? I'm sooooo confused you guys... 2
Emilia Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 1. At this point, shall I consider myself superficial because I turned down a woman due to a facial piercing? I actually never thought of it that way. I didn't know that turning down people based on their facial piercings was considered shallow....is it? Everyone has dealbreakers when it comes to appearance. I think shallow is when someone can't help the way they look, like baldness for example that carhill mentioned. The woman made a statement when she chose to have piercing(s). You didn't like that statement. Of course, piercings are artificial, and can be removed instantly...even tats. But, dose it really compare to dating an obese person that turns you off physically? Why would someone remove something just for you? You should either accept a person as they are at the present or move on. 2. Was I judgmental? - Not in my opinion 3. Do I lack an open mind, because I didn't give her a shot? I'd give someone a shot with a tiny stud somewhere but proper piercings disgust me, especially around the mouth. Imagine the food that gets stuck in there, yuck. Piercings through the nose just make me laugh, it's a dumb look. 4. She was just venting at me, because she was rejected? Yes. She should know if she chooses something vaguely controversial that not everyone will like it. Surely that's one of the reasons? 1
Author irc333 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 I'd give someone a shot with a tiny stud somewhere but proper piercings disgust me, especially around the mouth. Imagine the food that gets stuck in there, yuck. Piercings through the nose just make me laugh, it's a dumb look. Right, and every time I see a nose stud/gem. It reminds me of a run-a-way booger that got stuck on the outside of their nose. LOL Yes, dead serious, when I first saw one of these kinds of piercings, I actually thought it was a booger.
utterer of lies Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 1. At this point, shall I consider myself superficial because I turned down a woman due to a facial piercing? I actually never thought of it that way. I didn't know that turning down people based on their facial piercings was considered shallow....is it? It doesn't matter. She didn't meet your requirements. Attraction is non-negotiable and if her choices make her unattractive to you, it's perfectly ok to turn her down. 3. Do I lack an open mind, because I didn't give her a shot? If the result of having an open mind is going out with someone you are not attracted to, it's no loss. I think there's also a difference with men and women. I've read many times that women got to like someone they initially didn't like after getting to know them better. I never noticed this with men. I either want her, or not. I might want her and later lose interest when I get to know her, but never the other way around.... 4. She was just venting at me, because she was rejected? Obviously.
Author irc333 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 My opinion on tattoos are either neutral to negative. If I met a woman with sleeve tattoos, she would have to be very special for me to make an exception for her. The facial piercings, nipple piercings, genital piercings, the gage earrings, tongue rings, and other crap like that, that just shows me a person whose ****ed up in the head or of piss poor morals. Inother words, 1 of every 2 New Yorkers. Problem is....everytime I go to a swimming area, water park or beach, lately....seems women have gone from those small descrete tats You know the cute little snoopy tat on the ankle or the tiny tat on their hip, probably no bigger than an inch or 2? Now, I see a very pretty woman in a bikini, but she's so littered with ink it's disgusting, and I just shake my head "what a waste." Seeing a long vine that's drawn from her armpit to her waist, or the large, black Angel Wings on their back.....you actually don't even see the bikini she's wearing.
KR10N Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Well, I'm not one to argue w/ ones personal taste as far as what they like physically, but to say that tattoos are meaningless is just ignorant. Many people get tattoos for many reasons and they're not all meaningless. So, I guess a tattoo that's, let's say... a fish. If anyone, man or woman, had a tattoo of a fish. Does it make it a meaningless tattoo? Because, it just so happens that people often get tattoos of a fish to represent a loved one in their life that has passed or hardships they've overcome. The Japanese koi fish is a symbol of perseverance. There are a lot of people that will get a tattoo just to say they have one, but most people get tattoos because it really means something to them. 1
William Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Discussion of dating preferences and the relative value and appropriateness of them is fine. There are threads for that. This thread is about a specific occurrence and interaction with a woman who had facial piercings. Apparently at some point the topic veered over to body art in general and got away from the interaction and I'd like to steer it back on-topic...
jobaba Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) A lot of times, we've all talked about being shallow, superficial, etc. Like a 5'3" woman won't date a man unless they are 6 feet tall or taller. Or a guy that won't date a woman unless she has breasts that are C-cup or higher and so on. A woman I had been recently talking to made me realized that I MIGHT be superficial. But...I have to explain the situation first. I had been talking to her online back and forth the past day or 2, 1st off, she's very attractive physically, no question about it. Holds a PhD, and over 40. I asked her if she had a nose piercing, because in one of her pictures I could vaguely make one out. I asked her if she had a nose piercing and she said that she did, and also a few discrete tats here and there...."does that bother you?" And I said, "Yeah, sorry, no offense...but facial piercings on a woman don't do it for me." And she goes, "None taken, and I don't date guys that judge people based solely on the physical appearances and lack open mindedness." Questions 1. At this point, shall I consider myself superficial because I turned down a woman due to a facial piercing? I actually never thought of it that way. I didn't know that turning down people based on their facial piercings was considered shallow....is it? Of course, piercings are artificial, and can be removed instantly...even tats. But, dose it really compare to dating an obese person that turns you off physically? 2. Was I judgmental? 3. Do I lack an open mind, because I didn't give her a shot? 4. She was just venting at me, because she was rejected? I think she did overreact. A person having a nose ring, a tat, etc is saying to the world, "This is me. I like to be unique." I like people like that and am attracted to them. I've always liked people who dance to a different beat. When I had my hair dyed blue (or long hair, or earrings), if I approached some girl and she said something to the effect of "Your hair is really unattractive." I could care less because that is a part of me I consciously decided to make a statement with ... and so I wouldn't care if people make judgements on it. My height or my face, that would be a different story. However, I must say, the fact that a person could find another person unattractive based solely on one small piece of metal through their nose ABSOLUTELY BLOWS MY MIND. Tats head to toe, I can see. But one stud? I mean, really it almost makes me think you are making the story up because you're bored or something. Then again, the level of pickiness of others is never something that should ever surprise me again. To each their own! Edited July 4, 2012 by jobaba
KR10N Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Discussion of dating preferences and the relative value and appropriateness of them is fine. There are threads for that. This thread is about a specific occurrence and interaction with a woman who had facial piercings. Apparently at some point the topic veered over to body art in general and got away from the interaction and I'd like to steer it back on-topic...I might as well be holding a gun against my head, but OP did mention tattoos & is openly discussing them. It seems relevant. BANG!
Christine52 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 No, I don't think your'e being shallow. Some people just aren't into tattoos/piercings. It's about preference.. Now if you won't date a woman unless she was a 6 foot blond with D cup, and you really couldn't care less about personality then you're shallow lol
William Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I might as well be holding a gun against my head, but OP did mention tattoos & is openly discussing them. It seems relevant. BANG! Re-read the starting thread, nicely quoted just above. What was the impetus of the interaction the thread was started about? Facial piercings. 'Tats' were only mentioned in passing by the woman and were not germain to the encounter, as related by the thread starter. Thread starters are not moderators. They don't get to decide how things go around here. Hope that makes sense. My gun is bigger
KR10N Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Re-read the starting thread, nicely quoted just above. What was the impetus of the interaction the thread was started about? Facial piercings. 'Tats' were only mentioned in passing by the woman and were not germain to the encounter, as related by the thread starter. Thread starters are not moderators. They don't get to decide how things go around here. Hope that makes sense. My gun is bigger I have nowhere to hide!
g450 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Actually, I think after the age of 40, best to pop out the nose/brow/lip rings...at that age, you just look silly. By that age, it just isn't age appropriate. Yeah I agree. At that age, it doesnt make you look "cool", it makes you look like a dumbazz. Trying to be hip and young again by lowering your IQ to that of your average pre teen just makes you look sad.
g450 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Body art, be they piercings or tattoos don't define character or mannerisms. I've already mentioned this. I just don't find it attractive, it's like putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa or bumper stickers on a Mercedes Benz. I just don't find it aesthetically appealing. So if the lady is fat, do you tell her that you don't like to date fatties, as well? Yeah I would. If I didnt find a woman attractive, what would be the point? This is not rocket science. That's why OLD sites have those filters build in. They DO ask you about weight and height on most of them for a reason.
g450 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 1. No. If I wanted to date a dairy cow or a human pin cushion I would look for dates in a circus or farm. 2. No. You were honest about what you were looking for. To thine own self be true. If she doesnt appreciate that then she is shallow and close minded herself. 3. Your mind knows what it wants and what works for you. And that doesnt have a damn thing to do with it being open or not. 4. Probably. Typically, women have no problems getting dates in the real world. The ones that are forced to use OLD usutally have some kind of issues or are generally very unatractive.
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