Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 It's because we males are objects to women. As a guy society expects men to build, shape and control everything without getting tired of it all. Women are expected to look pretty and judge men........thus the reason men are getting sick of female existence. After all that work a man does only to be judged by this female creature that's done NOTHING for society. When every girl turns 18 she gets two cards in the mail. One card says, "look pretty" and the other card says "judge men". And that's what we do. We go forth to look pretty and judge men. It makes our female creature vagina's happy. 3
Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 The added benefit there is that I have had little problem giving my gf a commitment and getting married to her. I would have significantly more problems committing to someone that would see and sleep with others while I was dating them. That's what it's all about. Finding people who jive with the way you want to live your life. I would have a hard time respecting a man that needed everything we paid for together to always be equal tit for tat. That's okay too. It's about what jives with how I want to tlive my life. 1
RedRobin Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 That is fine. I'm just amused by the uproar caused by the idea that a woman spend time getting to know me and only me if she is going to get my attention and money. My gf and I got to know each other for months before we first met and from the first date both of us did not date another person, sleep with anyone else, etc. It really is not that much to ask of someone to take dating you seriously. I think people need more expectations for the person they are dating. It cuts out the game playing. There are men and women out there that have no problem being able to give a person attention and getting to know them well while dating. The added benefit there is that I have had little problem giving my gf a commitment and getting married to her. I would have significantly more problems committing to someone that would see and sleep with others while I was dating them. No argument there! As most know here, I abhor multi-dating if one is looking for a committed relationship. It would be nice if I could assume that if a man were paying for my date, that he wasn't seeing others... but I haven't witnessed any corrolation. I believe people were objecting to the (perceived) double standard. That her sexuality is now on a leash since the man is paying, but the man's isn't.... as if the man is somehow paying for the right to sleep with whomever he wants... and for the price of a measly dinner... gets to take her off the market.
Sanman Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 No argument there! As most know here, I abhor multi-dating if one is looking for a committed relationship. It would be nice if I could assume that if a man were paying for my date, that he wasn't seeing others... but I haven't witnessed any corrolation. I believe people were objecting to the (perceived) double standard. That her sexuality is now on a leash since the man is paying, but the man's isn't.... as if the man is somehow paying for the right to sleep with whomever he wants... and for the price of a measly dinner... gets to take her off the market. I did not say that women could not have that expectation as well, I simply said they need to find a way to invest in the relationship and then have the same expectation. To me, showing up and looking pretty is a minimal investment. Listening, doing something nice for, involving yourself and setting yourself apart are important factors I look for in a woman. If I plan a date, pick her up, and pay for the date then I want to see some investment on her part before I agree to abstain from other as well. My gf did this and it was never an issue with us. Alternatively, I am an open minded guy and will give others a chance. We can hangout, split the tab, and see where things go. Then you can sleep with who you want and so can I. There is little investment on both sides.
RedRobin Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) I did not say that women could not have that expectation as well, I simply said they need to find a way to invest in the relationship and then have the same expectation. To me, showing up and looking pretty is a minimal investment. Listening, doing something nice for, involving yourself and setting yourself apart are important factors I look for in a woman. If I plan a date, pick her up, and pay for the date then I want to see some investment on her part before I agree to abstain from other as well. My gf did this and it was never an issue with us. Alternatively, I am an open minded guy and will give others a chance. We can hangout, split the tab, and see where things go. Then you can sleep with who you want and so can I. There is little investment on both sides. I understand better now, thanks. Investment does come in many forms. Not all $$. I agree. Reciprocity and feeling mutually valued is important. Everyone has their own ideas what that looks like, I guess. For me, it was never $$. Their time, and some understanding on their part that my time is valuable too... those are the things I look for. People who do last minute cancellations or have bad planning skills are not something I will tolerate more than once. Even then, it had better be a really good reason. Edited June 29, 2012 by RedRobin
seachangeoflove Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 It's because we males are objects to women. As a guy society expects men to build, shape and control everything without getting tired of it all. Women are expected to look pretty and judge men........thus the reason men are getting sick of female existence. After all that work a man does only to be judged by this female creature that's done NOTHING for society. that's right biotch! I have a womb, you must worship it! on yer knees boy!
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