DuchessKaye Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I heard about this in the News. A girl sued a guy for raping her. They went on a date, they went to the guys place, they had sex. But after 2 weeks the girl came out in front of the media to say that she is going to sue him for raping her. I know I'm also a woman and should fight and stand for our womanhood. But ugh, after seeing the whole video coverage from the elevator's security camera up to the guy's unit.I was like, really??? After she went to that guy's place willingly and had sex consensually she's going to accuse him?? She was even kissing him inside the elevator and there was no sign of forcing. And if she wasn't expecting to have sex with him, why was she that intimate with him? Why did she kiss him on their way to his bedroom? She's a tease and that's how teasers were being punished. Poor guy... He left the country in a very shameful way.
darkmoon Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) i do not visit a man unless i want to screw him, no mix-ups then, but that's me, the woman in the story wants cash imho, men reading this who object to my no visit rule need to ask somebody else back to thier place, i'm not risking a thing and i will not prick-tease, ask some one else, been raped twice, i bet men still tell me what to think here and expect me to obey! no thanks, i am free to say no - i will not prick-tease whch is a bonus for men imho Edited May 19, 2012 by darkmoon
USMCHokie Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Rape cases are generally difficult to prove, as the burden of proof is on the alleged victim to show that a rape did occur, not on the accused to show that it didn't... However, just because a woman goes home with a guy doesn't automatically negate any chance of rape. Rape can at occur at any point even up through initial penetration. If she lets him in and then decides she's done, then he'd better be done too... 4
mesmerized Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Just because she kissed her in the elevator doesn't mean it's ok for him to forcefully have sex with her. Also, just because it took her two weeks to report it doesn't mean it was made up. Now I don't know the whole story, so I can't really say about the validity of it. Post a link. 1
Author DuchessKaye Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 Panamanian envoy denies raping Pinay teen
Taramere Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I heard about this in the News. A girl sued a guy for raping her. They went on a date, they went to the guys place, they had sex. But after 2 weeks the girl came out in front of the media to say that she is going to sue him for raping her. I know I'm also a woman and should fight and stand for our womanhood. But ugh, after seeing the whole video coverage from the elevator's security camera up to the guy's unit.I was like, really??? After she went to that guy's place willingly and had sex consensually she's going to accuse him?? She was even kissing him inside the elevator and there was no sign of forcing. And if she wasn't expecting to have sex with him, why was she that intimate with him? Why did she kiss him on their way to his bedroom? She's a tease and that's how teasers were being punished. Poor guy... He left the country in a very shameful way. Her story sounds dubious, particularly if her focus is on getting money out of this...and if he's been set up by somebody with an eye for the cash then he deserves everybody's sympathy. That apart, what on earth is that bolded comment saying about your belief set? I think it's perfectly normal for a woman to both kiss a man and be alone in his home with him, without him assuming that she's ready to have sex. Certainly in Western culture kissing and being in somebody's home indicates interest and liking. It's part of normal courtship rather than the negative thing you seem to be depicting it as that merits some type of punishment of the woman. A bit more respect and consideration for your own gender wouldn't go amiss here. It doesn't mean condoning a woman who would set a man up for allegations of rape because she thought she could get cash out of it. That behaviour would certainly merit punishment. However, demonstrating liking, affection and interest in a man never merits a rapey punishment. I think your entire post is pretty dubious as a result of that "punished" comment, because it gives the impression that even if this girl was raped once she was in the apartment, you think she had it coming. 6
Author DuchessKaye Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 Her story sounds dubious, particularly if her focus is on getting money out of this...and if he's been set up by somebody with an eye for the cash then he deserves everybody's sympathy. That apart, what on earth is that bolded comment saying about your belief set? I think it's perfectly normal for a woman to both kiss a man and be alone in his home with him, without him assuming that she's ready to have sex. Certainly in Western culture kissing and being in somebody's home indicates interest and liking. It's part of normal courtship rather than the negative thing you seem to be depicting it as that merits some type of punishment of the woman. A bit more respect and consideration for your own gender wouldn't go amiss here. It doesn't mean condoning a woman who would set a man up for allegations of rape because she thought she could get cash out of it. That behaviour would certainly merit punishment. However, demonstrating liking, affection and interest in a man never merits a rapey punishment. I think your entire post is pretty dubious as a result of that "punished" comment, because it gives the impression that even if this girl was raped once she was in the apartment, you think she had it coming. Oh no, didn't you notice the smiley I put somewhere towards the end of that line? Of course, I was kidding. I didn't mean to offend. My apologies. 1
d'Arthez Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Rape cases are notoriously difficult to prove. Conviction rates are low. Usually it ends up being her word against his, and that is not enough grounds for a conviction. Not all women react the same to being raped. That is a point people are prone to forget. Just because the woman did not report the case immediately does not mean the sex was consensual. She may have been kissing him, may even have gone to his room, but that does not mean she has actually consented to whatever happened in the room. She may have consented and she may not have consented. If she has been drugged, then some details of the evening itself could be wrongfully remembered. The traumatic experience itself can have led to her remembering the events of the evening in a more threatening way. Still does not mean that she has / has not been raped. In the case of diplomatic personnel, integrity of character and a blemishfree record are important. Even if he is innocent, such an incident does create a doubt about his integrity and spotless record. 2
Mrlonelyone Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Simply going up to a mans room after a certain time of day does not mean you have said yes to sex. However, that does not mean you should not expect him to want it. Don't start the engine unless you want to go for a ride. I hear that in some localities, a man is expected to stop right away even in the middle of the act if the woman changes her mind. 1
Taramere Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Oh no, didn't you notice the smiley I put somewhere towards the end of that line? Of course, I was kidding. I didn't mean to offend. My apologies. My apologies for misconstruing, Duchess. The crying with laughter smiley tends to be used to signify various things. I just zoomed in on that word "punished". Apologies again for misconstruing. Regarding the rest of the story, I think the camera footage of her leaving the apartment would probably be the most crucial evidence. 1
mesmerized Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Simply going up to a mans room after a certain time of day does not mean you have said yes to sex. However, that does not mean you should not expect him to want it. Don't start the engine unless you want to go for a ride. I hear that in some localities, a man is expected to stop right away even in the middle of the act if the woman changes her mind. Of course, If she doesn't want she doesn't want. Why should a woman always commit to a man completing his mission? How many men care enough to finish off a woman? lol Same goes for women. If a man doesn't want to continue having sex or anything else that he shouldn't be forced to (not like most women can really force men!). Sex should be consensual at all points for both sexes. 1
Author DuchessKaye Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 I deeply symphatize for the guy. But I think he has to come back and face the court to clean his name/reputation.
Motherof3 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 If he's innocent, then why did he choose to leave the country rather than facing her accusations and defend himself at the court? And if the girl didn't want anything from this man then why did she take marijuana when she saw them on the guy's bed. Both of them were lame.
Motherof3 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 There was one poster who commented on that article and it's driving me nuts. "Probably if the Panamanian's got caucasian looks. Then he's innocent. But if he looks non-white, Filipino. Oriental especially Chinese, or Negro, "No Way Man!"; it's really rape." I seriously just lol'ed!
Author DuchessKaye Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 "Probably if the Panamanian's got caucasian looks. Then he's innocent. But if he looks non-white, Filipino. Oriental especially Chinese, or Negro, "No Way Man!"; it's really rape." Oh wow! All this while, I'm known here to be pedestalizing Whites. But regrettably, in this case, I tend to believe the guy even if he is Non-White. 1
Rahstyles Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Shes a lier... But then again.. I gotta see the security cameras to see if she was held tightly
CC12 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 I hear that in some localities, a man is expected to stop right away even in the middle of the act if the woman changes her mind. In all localities, if a woman (or man) says to stop, even in the middle of the act, then all sexual contact should stop. You disagree with this?
irc333 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Yeah, I know.....there was this article in the paper, guy was at a local watering hole with another male friend. He bumps into an old female friend from Highschool who is with HER friend. They get to talking...and they both go back to someone's place (all 4 were at the residence) The pairs split up, and one of the pairs went into the bedroom. THey had consentual sex, but charged him with rape, because she was engaged. One of the other 2 friends told the fiance' she cheated on him, and when the fiance' confronted her about it, she lied, and said the guy raped her just to make it look like she wasn't unfaithful. Rape cases are notoriously difficult to prove. Conviction rates are low. Usually it ends up being her word against his, and that is not enough grounds for a conviction. Not all women react the same to being raped. That is a point people are prone to forget. Just because the woman did not report the case immediately does not mean the sex was consensual. She may have been kissing him, may even have gone to his room, but that does not mean she has actually consented to whatever happened in the room. She may have consented and she may not have consented. If she has been drugged, then some details of the evening itself could be wrongfully remembered. The traumatic experience itself can have led to her remembering the events of the evening in a more threatening way. Still does not mean that she has / has not been raped. In the case of diplomatic personnel, integrity of character and a blemishfree record are important. Even if he is innocent, such an incident does create a doubt about his integrity and spotless record.
firehawk_1 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 yes its how it is. women always make false allegations against men. its how it is. to get attention and to get what they want. we are never safe. this is what ive been going on and on about. it ruins a mans life!
DjinnAgain Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 My cousin got accused of rape after sleeping with a girl who was in a relationship and lied to avoid getting caught. There were other people who saw her telling him what she was going to do to him on the way to her room He eventually was cleared of charges -- but got none of the time he spent in jail back, and lost his job after the police arrested him at work responding loudly about rape when he asked what was going on. (I always thought he should have sued, but what do I know about law.) It was disgusting and the woman was a horrible person. Thankfully, it made him at least stop sleeping around with women he hardly knew and got him on the path to being married to a wonderful, quality woman instead of just sleeping with 7 girls a week. However, I know ONE situation of that. I know a lot more situations where the girl was treated like a villian to go through with rape charges when somebody raped her, and even more who were so afraid of the continued victimization that they didn't report the rape. (granted, from a support group, but it so many women you know have probably been sexually victimized and you don't know) I was too scared to report it when I was raped. I did tell my brothers privately and they sent him to the hospital and he then had to be quiet about who did it to him because he knew why, but the legal system can be cruel to women who report a rape -- if they aren't spring pure virgins who got all bruised up by a stranger- yeah, it can be...
snug.bunny Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) It does happen. I recently watched an episode of Dateline on ID about a woman who falsely accused a man of raping her: Woman Falsely Accuses Man of Rape | Video - ABC News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexS0n3tohY The reason she falsely accused him, was alarming. Very sad. Edited May 19, 2012 by snug.bunny
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