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verhrzn Established Member

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This. This was the whole point of the thread, which was obvious to me and most others but completely lost on V and DY.

 

So report us and be done. Just because we read differently into it doesn't make us wrong about what we were saying; just a different perspective.

threebyfate Established Member

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*falls on knees in thankfulness that there are tons of men who exist, who not only are astute at reading social cues but are also more discerning about who they sleep with*

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Mme. Chaucer Established Member

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How does me thinking that a woman is not dateable (meaning I don't want to have sex with her) mean that they don't count as people? By that logic, little old ladies wouldn't count as people either.

 

 

You have actually said, more than once, that overweight girls and women "don't count." You have also said that overweight people should only consider dating other overweight people.

 

I've argued with you about those statements of yours on a few occasions. One even got me an infraction! :eek:

 

Check out your own statement:

How does me thinking that a woman is not dateable

 

Yes, you follow by qualifying it with what you "meant," but what you really said was that you think a woman IS NOT DATEABLE. NOT that you're not interested in dating her, or even that you are never attracted to overweight women, which I think is perfectly fine.

 

You're saying that a certain segment of the population IS NOT DATEABLE.

 

That is offensive.

 

What makes it way worse is the way you carry on about how somebody needs to give you a chance, and if they could only get their head screwed on right they would understand how good you'd be together, etc.

 

I said that probably there are fat girls who feel the same way about you. I wasn't joking. Why don't you afford the same "chances" to other people that you want for yourself? Or accept that other people have preferences that are different than you, with grace?

 

Obviously, I have an issue with the way you dismiss "fat girls" as humans. NOT as potential dates. You do that, sd. Over and over.

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A O Established Member

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Women want men to treat them right.

The victims roar! The oppressor and the oppressed. Utter garbage.

 

It's not up to others to determine how you wish to be treated - it is up to you! You establish how you want to be treated - everyone else has to work in with that. Those that fail won't be in your world for long.

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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Funny, every guy in real life, and most of em on this forum, disagree with you.

 

I was thinking about cosplaying as Black Widow for a con this year. Until my friend made a sick face and said I'd wind up in one of those "Fugly Fat Cosplayers!" videos on youtube.

 

THAT is why threads like this get my ire up. Men are so concerned and focused on their own "sexual energy" they don't even consider how it feels to the woman. They don't consider whether SHE'S interested, it's all about how they feel, how THEY'RE flirting out of interest so how dare the woman NOT be, how dare she NOT realize he wants to have sex with her, how dare the fat girl NOT realize how disgusting she is.

 

Have guys who post in these sort of threads ever stopped and thought how the woman feels about constantly being told what she should think ("he wants sex!"), how she should act ("don't flirt unless we're having sex in the immediate future"), and how she should look ("attractive.")

 

First of all, the only people I ever see calling you fat on here are the more unscrupulous characters. I've never seen normal well adjusted people call you fat. Then again, I don't really participate in too many "fat" threads on LS so...

 

Didn't you post a picture months ago of yourself dressed up as Batgirl? You didn't look fat there. So unless you photoshopped it or entered an eating contest or three since then I honestly have no idea why anyone would call you fat. But, I've told you this before, and you've also dismissed my opinion before. Like oh "49322 is just a dateless virgin dude, his opinion doesn't count so I'm not going to listen".

 

In my personal experience in who I've been attracted to and what I've observed of friends and family people are attracted to all kinds of things and qualities in people. I think the things you say here just don't jive with that. Sure, anecdotes aren't good for statistics but still, it just doesn't make sense.

 

You do need to find better friends though. Your current ones seem to get off on telling you hurtful (and untrue) things.

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fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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Obviously, I have an issue with the way you dismiss "fat girls" as humans. NOT as potential dates. You do that, sd. Over and over.

 

My opinion (and I'm no mind readist so take it for what it's worth): he's projecting his feelings of how he thinks women view short men onto "fat women".

ThaWholigan Established Member

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I was thinking about cosplaying as Black Widow for a con this year. Until my friend made a sick face and said I'd wind up in one of those "Fugly Fat Cosplayers!" videos on youtube.

 

**** your friend, why should you listen to them?

 

THAT is why threads like this get my ire up. Men are so concerned and focused on their own "sexual energy" they don't even consider how it feels to the woman. They don't consider whether SHE'S interested, it's all about how they feel, how THEY'RE flirting out of interest so how dare the woman NOT be, how dare she NOT realize he wants to have sex with her, how dare the fat girl NOT realize how disgusting she is.

 

Again, it seems you are the ONLY person that has deciphered this message out of the thread. Of course we will consider if she's interested, and it's not about FOCUSING on our sexual energy, it's about EMBRACING it and not being ashamed that, maybe we will actually end up being attracted to this woman we happen to be talking to. There is no "how dare she" insinuated in this thread, merely a reiteration that we are not neutered beings, occasionally, we might just be sexually attracted to a woman. Whatever she looks like, if we like how she looks, thats it. We're hooked. There is no ill feeling there, if it's not reciprocated, it will be taken elsewhere. Fat girls are not disgusting anyway.

 

Have guys who post in these sort of threads ever stopped and thought how the woman feels about constantly being told what she should think ("he wants sex!"), how she should act ("don't flirt unless we're having sex in the immediate future"), and how she should look ("attractive.")

 

These thread (or at least this one) has done nothing of the sort. Most of these messages that women get about being told how to think, act or look, is usually from..........yep, WOMEN THEMSELVES!!!! We don't have a say in women's fashion trends, because we don't even care about fashion as much. We don't tell women how to think because it's like telling Usain Bolt how to run fast. So when I post in these sorts of threads, I am not thinking about how a woman feels about constantly being told what to think, because as far as I am aware, nobody is telling them how to do anything. I hear more words about what we as men are supposed to be doing, or acting or thinking or looking.

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somedude81 Established Member

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*falls on knees in thankfulness that there are tons of men who exist, who not only are astute at reading social cues but are also more discerning about who they sleep with*

Can you explain that last point to V. She thinks I should want to sleep with everybody.

You have actually said, more than once, that overweight girls and women "don't count." You have also said that overweight people should only consider dating other overweight people.

 

I've argued with you about those statements of yours on a few occasions. One even got me an infraction! :eek:

And I got an infraction for making that comment :confused:

 

And no, little girls, obese women, old ladies, none of them count as options for dating or sex. So what?

 

Check out your own statement:

 

Yes, you follow by qualifying it with what you "meant," but what you really said was that you think a woman IS NOT DATEABLE. NOT that you're not interested in dating her, or even that you are never attracted to overweight women, which I think is perfectly fine.

Fine it was a poor choice of words. I meant exactly what you just said in your last sentence.

 

What makes it way worse is the way you carry on about how somebody needs to give you a chance, and if they could only get their head screwed on right they would understand how good you'd be together, etc.
That's simply because I can't think of any reason why somebody would not give me a chance. And yes, I think rejecting somebody because they are short is more shallow than rejecting somebody because they are very overweight.
Star Gazer Established Member

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So report us and be done. Just because we read differently into it doesn't make us wrong about what we were saying; just a different perspective.

 

I don't see how you even read it differently. The OP speaks for itself. This is not a thread that was started to discuss a woman's looks whatsoever. It was designed to discuss women's naïveté.

 

YOU took it completely off course with your personal freak-out.

ThaWholigan Established Member

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*falls on knees in thankfulness that there are tons of men who exist, who not only are astute at reading social cues but are also more discerning about who they sleep with*

 

Yes you should, I am one of them. As an autistic man, I've done a pretty good job of reading social cues well enough, and I'm more discriminating about who I would have sex with than most guys I know. So I hope that comment was not to assume that we are all animals who will sleep with anything for the sake of it. Just a reminder that we are not neutered and occasionally, sex will enter our minds :laugh:.

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Can you explain that last point to V. She thinks I should want to sleep with everybody.
You don't need to sleep with everyone but the assumption that every man wants to do every woman who fits into their perception of relatively attractive, is a gross assumption that men are exactly like you and that women are fully responsible for how men interpret their actions whether deliberately flirtatious or not.

 

"Public Service announcement - Not all men are like somedude" :laugh:

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threebyfate Established Member

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Yes you should, I am one of them. As an autistic man, I've done a pretty good job of reading social cues well enough, and I'm more discriminating about who I would have sex with than most guys I know. So I hope that comment was not to assume that we are all animals who will sleep with anything for the sake of it. Just a reminder that we are not neutered and occasionally, sex will enter our minds :laugh:.
Nah, I don't have a problem with your attitude at all. Sure, sex will enter the mind and not only for men. But to suggest that women should stop flirting because the odd guy might get the wrong message is bizarre indeed.
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Actually, I was very glad to read on this forum that very hot men will often go for average women just to get laid, or date "down" for practice and ego boosting, and all the other painful truths. On the same token, hot women will and often do go for average men to get free dates, gifts, princess treatment, and attention.

 

Man or woman, if you're with someone who could do WAY better than you, you're probably being used - this is sad but true, and good to know.

 

Only if the person in question subscribes to that theory that they are in fact in a certain league and that dating somebody else who doesn't have as much looks and money is dating down.

 

Send me a PM and I'll send you a pic of a couple I know. The guy has an MD from an Ivy League school, is obviously loaded and was considered a really good looking guy by most of the women in his circle. She has nowhere near the level of educational prestige or money.

 

You can decide on their level of looks compatibility.

ThaWholigan Established Member

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You don't need to sleep with everyone but the assumption that every man wants to do every woman who fits into their perception of relatively attractive, is a gross assumption that men are exactly like you and that women are fully responsible for how men interpret their actions whether deliberately flirtatious or not.

 

"Public Service announcement - Not all men are like somedude" :laugh:

:laugh: dear lord.....

 

As much as I don't agree with EVERYTHING Somedude does or says, the fact is, he is NOT saying that women are fully responsible for how men interpret their actions. What he is saying is that it is naive to assume that we are all natural flirts who aren't sexual at all, as it appears some girls do. The point appears to be getting lost again :lmao:

ThaWholigan Established Member

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Nah, I don't have a problem with your attitude at all. Sure, sex will enter the mind and not only for men. But to suggest that women should stop flirting because the odd guy might get the wrong message is bizarre indeed.

Well, I didn't agree with that in the other thread, but this thread while borne out of that very statement, is a slightly different entity to me, and one I concur with.

Disenchantedly Yours Established Member

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The victims roar! The oppressor and the oppressed. Utter garbage.

 

It's not up to others to determine how you wish to be treated - it is up to you! You establish how you want to be treated - everyone else has to work in with that. Those that fail won't be in your world for long.

 

Why is it, among all the posters on LS, you are drawn to repeatidly comment on me! I think you have a message board crush on me.

 

Isn't there a crocodile somewhere that needs you though?

threebyfate Established Member

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:laugh: dear lord.....

 

As much as I don't agree with EVERYTHING Somedude does or says, the fact is, he is NOT saying that women are fully responsible for how men interpret their actions. What he is saying is that it is naive to assume that we are all natural flirts who aren't sexual at all, as it appears some girls do. The point appears to be getting lost again :lmao:

Nowhere has anyone suggested in any of the flirtation threads that men aren't sexual. No idea where that came from unless I missed some posts while away.
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somedude81 Established Member

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"Public Service announcement - Not all men are like somedude" :laugh:

God I hope not. Humanity would die out.

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ThaWholigan Established Member

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Nowhere has anyone suggested in any of the flirtation threads that men aren't sexual. No idea where that came from unless I missed some posts while away.

Sorry, to clarify I don't think it's suggested that we aren't sexual, but it seems to be that we get conflicting messages about how and when to express our sexuality, or that we not express it at all. This creates a sort of shame about our sexuality that I have alluded to before on this forum (read 49322s posts for more clarification on that).

 

I think that men should embrace it, and certainly control it and express when appropriate, but the thread I assumed was meant to be more fun and a lead on from what was said in the flirt thread.

ThaWholigan Established Member

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God I hope not. Humanity would die out.

:lmao: Self Deprecating Humor at it's best

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threebyfate Established Member

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Sorry, to clarify I don't think it's suggested that we aren't sexual, but it seems to be that we get conflicting messages about how and when to express our sexuality, or that we not express it at all. This creates a sort of shame about our sexuality that I have alluded to before on this forum (read 49322s posts for more clarification on that).

 

I think that men should embrace it, and certainly control it and express when appropriate, but the thread I assumed was meant to be more fun and a lead on from what was said in the flirt thread.

It's impossible to systemize, as it pertains to individual preferences. What one person might find to be an acceptable exchange, another might find the same interaction to be overly familiar. The same person who found it overly familiar with someone he/she has just met, might be fine if it's expressed between friends or with a partner they've known for a long time.

 

Men needn't be ashamed of their sexuality, same as women shouldn't be ashamed of their sexuality. But to assume that the other gender is always thinking about sex with everyone they find even moderately attractive, has gone over the line of reasonable balance.

ThaWholigan Established Member

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It's impossible to systemize, as it pertains to individual preferences. What one person might find to be an acceptable exchange, another might find the same interaction to be overly familiar. The same person who found it overly familiar with someone he/she has just met, might be fine if it's expressed between friends or with a partner they've known for a long time.

 

Men needn't be ashamed of their sexuality, same as women shouldn't be ashamed of their sexuality. But to assume that the other gender is always thinking about sex with everyone they find even moderately attractive, has gone over the line of reasonable balance.

I wouldn't assume that one gender is always thinking abuot sex with anyone remotely attractive to them. However, I would speculate in my head that this was the case :D. And I don't think it's unreasonable to do so. I admit that I'm a horndog like 95% of the time (in my head), but I have control and enough sense to know that letting on that I am this way in an inappropriate fashion is indicative of extreme social ineptitude. And it doesn't mean that because I'm thinking about having sex with them that even necessarily think it would be a good idea.

 

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I agree with you :laugh:

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I fail to see the point of this thread though! Men want to have sex? Big surprise. Bears crap in the woods! Again no surprise. Tell us something useful. Otherwise this thread is really dense. I am so sick and tired of men wanting to reiterate over and over and over and over again they want sex. Seriously. There isn't a woman alive that doesn't understand this. So what if men want sex anyway? Women want their own things too. Women even want sex too!

 

Exactly.

 

Of course we know men want sex. No news flash there. If more men wanted relationships, they'd have an easier time getting sex. Many men seem to expect easy, immediate sex.

 

Maybe men shouldn't flirt with women they only want sex from. It's not fair to make women think you want something more than sex. ;)

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somedude81 Established Member

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But to assume that the other gender is always thinking about sex with everyone they find even moderately attractive, has gone over the line of reasonable balance.

Why do you say that?

 

Are you somehow offended that men can be this way?

 

Frankly, it just seems that you can't comprehend the male sex drive.

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somedude81 Established Member

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Maybe men shouldn't flirt with women they only want sex from. It's not fair to make women think you want something more than sex. ;)

Hell, I agree with you there.

 

Should make things easier for the guys who are actually looking for a relationship.

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