kaylan Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Because of this thread here(http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=309337) and many others like it, I thought to bring this to guys attention. Though Im sure its been said in all these threads. Tall women (5'8 and up) can have it tough in the dating realm too.. In most couples men tend to be 4 to 6 inches taller than the woman. So for woman who seek that, its tough because guys over 6 ft are not as common since most people are average. Check out a bell curve, you know how that works. Plus when you have to factor in other things that makes someone compatible, your dating pool gets smaller if a tall girl is strict to that standard. However, lets not forget that a good bit of tall chicks dont care about height if they click with a guy, but then the guys will care. I know I prefer a chick 4 to 6 inches shorter than me, and who is thin, because I am your average 5'9 male with your typical hollister/footballer build. So for me, I felt more manly when I was with my last ex of 5'2, than with the 5'11 cute blond I dated at the end of highschool. Sure at first the conquest feels great, and I think to myself "oh man, I have this sexy amazon woman" But even though we clicked, that doesnt negate the fact that my primal instincts push me to want a woman I can protect and dominate. Smaller stature gives me that feeling. I even find myself glossing over girls who are taller than 5'7 on online dating profiles. So basically, what I am saying to my shorter bros (under 5'8), is that you arent the only ones who get overlooked. Trust me, the women who are even more tall at 5'10 and up, get looked over a lot for their 5'5 friend. Its just an instinctual thing until you actually get to know people. Just gota make due with what ya got. I know maybe what Im saying doesnt matter to you because it comes from an average height dude, but just keep your head up and stay off the internet dating sites. I know I can never truly understand where you are coming from, but I can tell ya this. The only reason I ever even thought negatively about anything with my physical appearance, was because my ex told me I wasnt her type before we dated. You had this 5'2 italian-american girl telling a 5'9 afro-american dude that her type was usually light eyes, dark hair, over 6 foot tall, typical american white guy. It did hit hard at first and made me doubt my physical appeal since I am not the standard of hot in media culture. I really felt unattractive and that does hurt. However, fast forward a month later and we are laying in bed with her grabbing my shoulders and saying how she loves how broad they are. Or her placing her hand against mine and saying "i love how our skin contrasts". In the end it turns out that she was just creating reasons to not like me and trying to fight off her attraction for me due to what she thought her family might think of the whole interracial dating thing. Preferences do not mean a person would not have you, or that they would change you once they are with you. Its just certain likes and dislikes people have, some big, some small. To sum that all up...Dont let someone else change how you feel about yourself. Nowadays I dont give a crap if a girl isnt into me because Im not her type. I turn down girls myself all the time. Highlight your attributes and always tell yourself your awesome and that plenty of other girls would love to date you. Do whatever you need to do to be able to look in the mirror and tell yourself you look hot. For me it was just saying "F$%k off" to societal standards of whats attractive, going to the gym, getting the tattoos I always wanted, getting new clothes, and getting some sweet dreads. Viola. Accept who you are and make the improvements you can. Edited December 7, 2011 by kaylan
somedude81 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Tall women (5'8 and up) can have it tough in the dating realm too.. In most couples men tend to be 4 to 6 inches taller than the woman. So for woman who seek that, its tough because guys over 6 ft are not as common since most people are average. Check out a bell curve, you know how that works. Plus when you have to factor in other things that makes someone compatible, your dating pool gets smaller if a tall girl is strict to that standard. Then they shouldn't be requiring the men they date to be 4-6 inches taller than them... However, lets not forget that a good bit of tall chicks dont care about height if they click with a guy, but then the guys will care. I know I prefer a chick 4 to 6 inches shorter than me, and who is thin, because I am your average 5'9 male with your typical hollister/footballer build. So for me, I felt more manly when I was with my last ex of 5'2, than with the 5'11 cute blond I dated at the end of highschool. As a 5'6 guy, the only thing I care about is if the girl towers above me or not. A girl 5'10+ is simply too tall for me. So basically, what I am saying to my shorter bros (under 5'8), is that you arent the only ones who get overlooked. Trust me, the women who are even more tall at 5'10 and up, get looked over a lot for their 5'5 friend. Can you back that up? I really don't think that tall girls have it any harder than the normal ones do. So she can't date a short guy, big-whup. but just keep your head up and stay off the internet dating sites. And stay away from real girls who have any sort of physical standards. Preferences do not mean a person would not have you, or that they would change you once they are with you. Its just certain likes and dislikes people have, some big, some small. It kind of sucks, that no girl prefers what I am, in the way that a tall guy can benefit if a woman prefers tall guys. All I can hope is that the woman doesn't consider shortness a dealbreaker.
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Screw primal instincts, I'd just be glad to meet women who don't feel the need to STARE at me like they've never seen a giant before.
somedude81 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Screw primal instincts, I'd just be glad to meet women who don't feel the need to STARE at me like they've never seen a giant before. I just had a brilliant idea. Have six inches of your legs surgically removed and give them to me. That way we'll both be normal, hazzah!
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I just had a brilliant idea. Have six inches of your legs surgically removed and give them to me. That way we'll both be normal, hazzah! Believe me, I've been sorely tempted.
Cypress25 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Then they shouldn't be requiring the men they date to be 4-6 inches taller than them... It's not a requirement, just a preference. As a 5'6 guy, the only thing I care about is if the girl towers above me or not. A girl 5'10+ is simply too tall for me. I really don't think that tall girls have it any harder than the normal ones do. So she can't date a short guy, big-whup. You're contradicting yourself, don't you think? First you say you wouldn't date a girl if she was too tall, and then you say tall girls don't have a hard time in the dating realm. But even you would reject a girl based on her height! And it's not only short guys who wouldn't date tall girls. Many average guys wouldn't date tall girls, so tall girls are left with taller-than-average guys. And stay away from real girls who have any sort of physical standards. If a guy is hot (or even cute), most women will find him attractive, even if he's short. Women include the face in their hotness; it's not all about the body. Screw primal instincts, I'd just be glad to meet women who don't feel the need to STARE at me like they've never seen a giant before. Maybe they've never seen a giant before, lol. How tall are you anyway? Are you scary tall?
ChessPieceFace Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 So I should feel bad for tall girls because they still favor men who are taller, and in their case can't find many. That's pathetically stupid. Someone's choice is their own fault and they should receive no sympathy of any kind. Next time think before typing.
somedude81 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 It's not a requirement, just a preference. I already addressed preferences. You're contradicting yourself, don't you think? First you say you wouldn't date a girl if she was too tall, and then you say tall girls don't have a hard time in the dating realm. But even you would reject a girl based on her height! I also addressed that point already as well. Seeing as how the average man isn't 5'6, a tall girl doesn't really have to worry about getting rejected by short guys, which there is a 99% chance she isn't into in the first place. So no, not being able to date short guys, does not mean that a tall girls has it hard. And it's not only short guys who wouldn't date tall girls. Many average guys wouldn't date tall girls, so tall girls are left with taller-than-average guys. I'd love to hear some stories to back that up. If a guy is hot (or even cute), most women will find him attractive, even if he's short. Women include the face in their hotness; it's not all about the body. I think it really depends on how good looking the guy is. If he's really handsome, then it's possible to compensate for a lack of height. But an average looking short dude, good luck.
iris219 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Any time you fall way below or way above the average (and not just with height), you may have a harder time dating. Therefore, really short girls and really tall girls could have some difficulty. Luckily, if you're a tall, thin, pretty girl, you'll be compared to a model and you'll do fine.
Cypress25 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 So I should feel bad for tall girls because they still favor men who are taller, and in their case can't find many. That's pathetically stupid. Someone's choice is their own fault and they should receive no sympathy of any kind. Next time think before typing. No, we're talking about tall girls who don't care about height. Those girls often get rejected for being too tall. It's not their choice. They would be happy to date men of any height, but most men don't want to date them. These girls don't favor tall men, it's just that tall men are the only ones who are willing to date them. Do you understand now? I'd love to hear some stories to back that up. I told you all of my tall female friends complain that men won't date them because they're too tall. These girls range from 5'9" to 5'11" and they're very pretty, but they get rejected by average-height men all the time. A lot of guys don't want to date women who are the same height or taller. They want to be taller than the girl.
you_can_not_see_me Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) I'm 5'9 but I would date a girl up to 5'11 if the girl was pretty hot. It may sound odd but I actually really like girls who are close to my own height, like around 5'7 and 5'8. being able to look almost eye to eye makes me feel more intimate with the girl. also a girl who is close to my height gives me a sense of more equality with her, almost like I am a partner with her rather than her protector. Edited December 8, 2011 by you_can_not_see_me
Jane2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Or her placing her hand against mine and saying "i love how our skin contrasts". I can relate to that. I'm seeing an Indian guy who's pretty dark. I'm Asian and have light skin. I like the skin contrast.
eerie_reverie Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 It's so true... at 5'8 I often feel too big to be feminine. My friend who is 6'2 (and really pretty... she looks just like Kirsten Dunst) has had almost no interest whatsoever from the opposite sex.
Jane2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Funny...I see tall girls as being a prize to men. I'm short, myself, and feel extremely inferior. Girls who are between 5'5" and 5'10" seem, to me, to be the ones men want. Even a male friend of mine said to me that having a taller girl (and in his eyes, "healthier" girl) means status and prestige to the guy who's dating her. Short girls are like these insignificant little munchkins. Seriously, this is how I feel. I'm dating a guy who's a lot taller than me. Almost a whole foot. But...I've dated a variety of heights. As short as 5'6" and as tall as 5'11".
Jane2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Okay, I want to say a little more. I'm a female who's 5' tall but most of my female friends are these healthy girls who are between 5'6" and 5'8", and HONESTLY, they are just loved by men. I feel like for every one guy who is interested in me, there are about eight who are interested in them. I'm happy to be dating a guy who's 5'10" right now, and I'm amazed that he even likes me. But I get little attention from men. My taller female friends are taken so much more seriously. One of my friends who's 5'8" even told me that one day one of her male friends said to her, "What's it like being friends with her? [he meant me]." And he immediately followed up with, "She's really...small." WTF? It hurts! Well, not so much. But it's bothersome at times. Honestly, I think 5'5" to 5'8" women are the luckiest.
you_can_not_see_me Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 It's so true... at 5'8 I often feel too big to be feminine. My friend who is 6'2 (and really pretty... she looks just like Kirsten Dunst) has had almost no interest whatsoever from the opposite sex. nonsense I d date a pretty 5'8 with no hesitation. plus taller girls usually have bigger boobs compared to shorter girls
missed_theboat Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I'm about 5'2 and have never been self-conscious about my height for the most part. Sometimes I do tend to see tall women and think "woah, she's tall, imagine that..." but I am confident and I like my stature and petite-ness. I like that I can wear some major heels and not be towering above people. That being said, when I do wear heels and am taller than other women, I feel weird. I feel almost "unfeminine". I know that's odd, but I have spent my whole life being short, so being tall is unfamiliar and uncomfortable. My boyfriend told me he loves that I am short and small because he can cuddle with me in the perfect spoon position (I fit perfectly in his big spoon), etc. His last girlfriend was about 5'10 or so and really thin. He's about 6'. So hearing that for the first time I was thinking "jesus, his last gf was SUPER TALL!" but I have quickly realized he's in love with my body and never made me feel anything but beautiful by his side.
ScreamingTrees Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Viola. Accept who you are and make the improvements you can. Unless you're unlucky enough to have an unattractive facial structure and look like a neanderthal. What kind of improvements could be made to this? I don't think plastic surgery would work for drastic changes, it'd be too dangerous. What's a guy to do? What if you simply loathe everything about yourself, regardless/independent of what other people in general seem to think? I really don't know what to do with myself anymore. I'm dying on the inside.
Wolf18 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) The difference is that men are 50-50 on the issue, while most women unanimously like tall males. I've thought girls from 4'11 to 5'11 were beautiful, I actually bagged a few tallish girls (both were 5'8 and 5'9 on their drivers licenses) for sex but they were not really interested in dating. I'm not going to complain about it , but I'm positive its the stupid "I'm the same height or taller than you" thing. Some guys I talk to prefer short girls, other guys I talk to prefer tall girls, everyones down with average height girls and most guys in practice seldom follow either "preference" when a cute girl they have interests in comomn with is talking to them. Women are different. Almost all women prefer guys 6' and up, and actively lament it if a guy whose perfect in every other way is...their height. I have never in my entire life met a woman who actually prefers males who are under 5'10, it's more like something they're willing to "tolerate" if you're amazing in other fields. There's just no comparison. I think I would draw the line at like 6'1, but even then I would consider it if I liked the girl and we mentally clicked (or she was bangable ). And before someone calls me a hypocrite, being 6'1 for a girl is as far from average as a guy whose 5'1, who I'm sure few if any women would want to date unless he was REALLY spectacular or loaded. Edited December 8, 2011 by Wolf18
Pizzaman81 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Well the problem here is... a tall woman can always find a taller man. A short man, can always find a shorter woman... but then she might be a midget. You see the problem? End of thread
eerie_reverie Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Women are different. Almost all women prefer guys 6' and up, and actively lament it if a guy whose perfect in every other way is...their height. I have never in my entire life met a woman who actually prefers males who are under 5'10, it's more like something they're willing to "tolerate" if you're amazing in other fields. There's just no comparison. . I really don't think that's true. I strongly prefer 5'7 - 5'11. Below 5'7 would be fine too (I'm 5'8) provided he was stronger and bigger than me. I think of short people as fast and efficient, more capable of making quick getaways from sticky situations. My ex's height at 6'4 was a pretty serious turn-off for me. I felt like we were giants when we cuddled.
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Maybe they've never seen a giant before, lol. How tall are you anyway? Are you scary tall? More like stare-y tall. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLASingleGuy?feature=mhee#p/u/10/WoDW8xQKA_I My friend who is 6'2 (and really pretty... she looks just like Kirsten Dunst) has had almost no interest whatsoever from the opposite sex. No kidding? Either she must be really rude, or she's one of those horrible, selfish virgins.
missed_theboat Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I guess I cannot say that I've met many men who are shorter than me (being 5'2). Most of the men I've dated have been 5'10 and up. One was 6'4. By dated, I mean been in long-term relationships with, and that has been three people. Some people in Argentina (where I studied abroad) were a little shorter in stature than I'd seen before, but I honestly don't recall, since ... everyone is usually taller than me!
El Brujo Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I never understood why a lot of other tall guys go in for child-size women.
Elysian Powder Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I never understood why a lot of other tall guys go in for child-size women. tighter pussy.
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