AniD5061 Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I have been wondering about this for awhile, as we have all heard the stories of that one womanizer man who falls in love with the bitchy woman and suddenly he is committed. I think that there is something to this concept in that many men learn to respect a demanding woman who can take control. Bitchy women are assertive and know when to tell off a man when he deserves. Is this true about men? And if so, what is it about a bitchy women that men love?
mogul Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 To an extent, yes. I love when a woman is confident and knows what she wants. However, being bitchy does not imply she is entitled to everything and has no manners for myself or wait staff and people in general. Its a fine line and hard to explain, a certain swagger about "bitchy" women but still nice and a genuinely good personality.
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Yep, men absolutely love cold, non-emotional, demanding and dominant women. This was actually really interesting to observe in practice. I recently had a fling with some former pro tennis player. He moved in to a place with a female housemate. When I went over there a few times, I observed the interaction between them. She basically treats him like s^it. She is very average looking, not completely unfortunate but not even pretty. Anyways, he would ask her questions about her day and she would give him one word answers with her back turned towards her computer. The more she ingnored him, the more he tried to chat her up. He offered her a glass of wine and she told him "Nah, can you please not talk to me today? I am preoccupied". Then she went to bed at like 9pm. I stayed up with him for about 2 hours and he couldn't stop talking about her. What did I do? Did I leave a bit of a mess? Is she like this because I did or said X Y Z? She was nice to me yesterday. Can you believe she actually said "preoccupied"? This is so rude! I mean I don't give a f... but this is just .... On and on he went. Then he actually made lunch for her that night to take to work tomorrow. In the morning, she was a little friendlier. He told me "See? I made lunch that's why. Maybe if I make lunch for her every day..." While he says that he "hates" her, I can sense that he is developing quite a strong crush on her. No doubt it's just a matter of time before they end up in bed Meanwhile, I was there, cooking for him, talking to him, being nice to him and he completely ditched me.
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Basically, to get men you have to be born stunningly beautiful (9 or 10) - then your personality is completely irrelevant - or to be a complete bitch (then your looks are almost irrelevant).
mogul Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Basically, to get men you have to be born stunningly beautiful (9 or 10) - then your personality is completely irrelevant - or to be a complete bitch (then your looks are almost irrelevant). This cannot be further from the truth....
MrNate Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Yep, men absolutely love cold, non-emotional, demanding and dominant women. This was actually really interesting to observe in practice. I recently had a fling with some former pro tennis player. He moved in to a place with a female housemate. When I went over there a few times, I observed the interaction between them. She basically treats him like s^it. She is very average looking, not completely unfortunate but not even pretty. Anyways, he would ask her questions about her day and she would give him one word answers with her back turned towards her computer. The more she ingnored him, the more he tried to chat her up. He offered her a glass of wine and she told him "Nah, can you please not talk to me today? I am preoccupied". Then she went to bed at like 9pm. I stayed up with him for about 2 hours and he couldn't stop talking about her. What did I do? Did I leave a bit of a mess? Is she like this because I did or said X Y Z? She was nice to me yesterday. Can you believe she actually said "preoccupied"? This is so rude! I mean I don't give a f... but this is just .... On and on he went. Then he actually made lunch for her that night to take to work tomorrow. In the morning, she was a little friendlier. He told me "See? I made lunch that's why. Maybe if I make lunch for her every day..." While he says that he "hates" her, I can sense that he is developing quite a strong crush on her. No doubt it's just a matter of time before they end up in bed Meanwhile, I was there, cooking for him, talking to him, being nice to him and he completely ditched me. Seems he's getting his physical needs met from one woman, and his emotional needs met from the other. As twisted as this situation sounds..
xpaperxcutx Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 A " bitchy" woman means a challenge. Most men don't back down when they like the thrill of the chase.
musemaj11 Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Men like 'bitchy' women as women like 'jerks'. Jerks and bitches keep you on your toes because they create all sorts of dramas in your life which can be exciting for many people especially the young ones. Its like a phase. After a certain age people usually have more wisdom and value emotional stability above all.
welikeincrowds Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I am so guilty of this. I have a soft spot for bitchy women. I blame my mom.
xpaperxcutx Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I am so guilty of this. I have a soft spot for bitchy women. I blame my mom. Was your mom a " bitch" to your dad?
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 The right way to be a bitch is do about 80/20 split. Be bitchy 80% of the time and be nice 20% of the time. It's even better if you are nice after man does some act of service for you. It's like training a dog. I don't mean to be insulting but that's also how gamblers get hooked. If you want to read up on this more, look up intermittent reinforcement theory. I CBF with doing this. I perceive men that love bitches as weak. I would rather have someone who appreciates my nice and sweet side.
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 I am so guilty of this. I have a soft spot for bitchy women. I blame my mom. OK, I am not into you anymore.
welikeincrowds Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Was your mom a " bitch" to your dad? I bet if you asked my dad he'd tell you.
welikeincrowds Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) OK, I am not into you anymore. Awwww, damn. Edited March 17, 2011 by welikeincrowds forgot to put on shades
musemaj11 Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 The right way to be a bitch is do about 80/20 split. Be bitchy 80% of the time and be nice 20% of the time. It's even better if you are nice after man does some act of service for you. It's like training a dog. I don't mean to be insulting but that's also how gamblers get hooked. If you want to read up on this more, look up intermittent reinforcement theory. This also work on women.
Emilia Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 there is a difference between bitchy and assertive. men (or rather, people in general) don't respect women that are pushovers so ladies make sure you draw your boundaries. it's not about treating someone badly because no-one with decent self esteem would put up with that. it's about knowing who you are, what you want, being independent and smart and earning respect it's not rocket science
EasyHeart Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 No, emotionally healthy men do not like "bitches" any more than emotionally healthy women like "jerks". People of both genders are attracted to confident people. But it isn't a matter of learning some tricks, or playing hard to get, or not returning phone calls, or pretending to be busy, or any of the other crap that often gets thrown about in this forum. It's about actually BEING confident because you're a happy, successful person who has a lot of reasons to be confident.
Andy_K Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Men don't like bitches. But they will often put up with a lot of crappy behaviour in order to have sex with a really hot girl. And the average looking ones? They will only get the attention of really insecure guys.
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Awwww, damn. I think we should still meet up and make out we-like
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 This also work on women. This is true. It actually works on all animals (including humans).
East7 Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 There is an entire book dedicated to this question "Why Men love bitches" of Sherry Argov. There are many reasons to their attractiveness, IMO, bitchy women are: - More challenging (they look like they are always testing your confidence) - Less boring (lots of drama) - Secure and independent which makes them attractive. But basically I think it is a GIVER and TAKER dynamics. A bitchy woman will never go with a jerk, they are too much the same. Often bitchy women go for dependable, loving and caring guys who kill themselves to please them.
East7 Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 The right way to be a bitch is do about 80/20 split. Be bitchy 80% of the time and be nice 20% of the time. Yeah I like this theory, I think it is the same with bitchy women, they will be lovely and sweet for 20% of the time, just to keep you addicted and the rest 80% they will be (passive/aggressive) spoiled, demanding, distant, inconsistent, hurtful which will make you work harder to have back this 20% of loving time. Then you ask yourself : she's such a bitch, I don't know why I love her so much!! Here is my hot b1tch :
TaraMaiden Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 Are they? Hell no! I have queue of young pups after me... drooling and begging me for their time. Heck, I keep 'em hanging, play them off against each other, toy with their affection and give 'em so much but not quite enough.... I chew 'em up and spit 'em out, but I don't have to be a.... Oh.... hang on....
betterdeal Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 'pends what you mean by "bitchy". If you mean assertive and outspoken that isn't bitchy. If you mean gossips and spreads rumours, that's bitchy. The former I find attractive. The latter I have no time for. Why the former? Because you know where you stand with them, can have a heated debate without them taking it personally and, when they trust you, they are very tender and kind. They also see through bull**** a mile off. Many also have felt the same pain, anguish, sense of injustice that I have, and that creates a bond. A woman with spunk in her belly is something I admire.
Woggle Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 No man with self respect does. Also men are made to feel guilty if we want a woman that treats us well. We are told to be attracted to strong and independent women instead of women who are good to us because then we are accused of wanting a stepford wife. My wife treats me like a king and I treat her like a queen as well. If that makes her a stepford wife then so be it.
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