Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 are you flirting with the idea of adding a shirtless pic to your dating profile, hokie? come on fess up! Hahah, not a chance. I have never once considered putting a shirtless pic on a dating site. And besides, I don't plan on doing any online dating anytime soon.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 So what if I take an opportunity to flash a little to random strangers? If that's your style, by all means. It's certainly not mine or that of most grown, secure men I know, and it's not very classy, IMO.I don't think looking for opportunities to flash yourself to strangers is a good idea. Then again, you were the guy with half naked pictures all over LS, Facebook, and your dating profiles. If you would like to read more into it or interpret it as some grand gesture of insecurity, then by all means, go for it. I know I have more to offer than just a body, so just because I choose to run in it doesn't mean I reek of insecurity as you seem to think. Funny how you say this now, as less than a month ago you fully, 100000% admitted that's exactly why you did this - insecurity. I think it's noteworthy that of all the races, you chose that one. The one that gives you an opportunity to flash to random strangers. The better question is, WHY did you choose THAT race, of ALL the races available in DC? That all having been said, being in your tight undies in the freezing cold... really? Is that a good idea?
johan Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Oh you said dating profile. I thought it said LS profile.
northern_sky Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 It really depends on what you're flaunting, the context and how you're flaunting it. Like many women I am turned off by overt flaunting. If a guy puts a shirtless pic in his online dating profile, the sheer vanity, insecurity and lack of taste he displays overrides whatever physical perks he may possess. To be honest, there's nothing wrong with flaunting if it's done in a discrete fashion. I think the best approach is to show rather than tell. Instead of slipping that you have a PhD from Harvard, *show* your intelligence by writing an enticing, clever profile. Everyone sells themselves, especially when it comes to dating. There's nothing wrong with recognizing that. But selling yourself is an art form. The people who flaunt in less overt ways aren't necessarily less narcissistic, they're just smarter and less insecure. That said, I'm sure there are some overt flaunters who are that way because their arrogance makes it impossible for them to restrain themselves.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 If that's your style, by all means. It's certainly not mine or that of most grown, secure men I know, and it's not very classy, IMO.I don't think looking for opportunities to flash yourself to strangers is a good idea. Then again, you were the guy with half naked pictures all over LS, Facebook, and your dating profiles. Fair enough. It's rather clear that our "styles" are very incompatible, so we can just leave it at that. Funny how you say this now, as less than a month ago you fully, 100000% admitted that's exactly why you did this - insecurity. I've come to realize that a lot of things I've said in the recent past were said in order to conform to a certain "ideal" person which I thought I had to be. But you said to be myself. Yes, I like Jersey Shore. Yes, I like to GTL. I realized that I don't need to conform to what one person thinks is a quality guy. I know there are plenty of women out there who can tolerate my little quirks, including my shirtless running. I think it's noteworthy that of all the races, you chose that one. The one that gives you an opportunity to flash to random strangers. The better question is, WHY did you choose THAT race, of ALL the races available in DC? Easy. I get to run around almost naked in public. That all having been said, being in your tight undies in the freezing cold... really? Is that a good idea? I'll let you know after I'm done with it.
northern_sky Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 It really depends on what you're flaunting, the context and how you're flaunting it. Like many women I am turned off by overt flaunting. If a guy puts a shirtless pic in his online dating profile, the sheer vanity, insecurity and lack of taste he displays overrides whatever physical perks he may possess. To be honest, there's nothing wrong with flaunting if it's done in a discrete fashion. I think the best approach is to show rather than tell. Instead of slipping that you have a PhD from Harvard, *show* your intelligence by writing an enticing, clever profile. Everyone sells themselves, especially when it comes to dating. There's nothing wrong with recognizing that. But selling yourself is an art form. The people who flaunt in less overt ways aren't necessarily less narcissistic, they're just smarter and less insecure. That said, I'm sure there are some overt flaunters who are that way because their arrogance makes it impossible for them to restrain themselves. *discreet ------
northern_sky Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 True, but we can also apply it to real life. Why do you think people who openly display their special skills or talents (e.g., musicians, athletes, otherwise rich and or/ powerful people) are the ones that make members of the opposite weak in the knees? Why do actors and actresses work to stay in impeccable shape so they can show it off in movies? Which Gerard Butler made you hotter, the one in 300 or the one in P.S. I Love You...? Our society seems to be tempered to accept and even encourage proverbial "flaunting" to some degree... That flaunting is part of their job. It would be totally different if a male gymnast were doing backflips around town to impress women.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 That flaunting is part of their job. It would be totally different if a male gymnast were doing backflips around town to impress women. What if he were not doing it to impress women or snag a date? Is it possible that we do things in this world for ourselves and not to just get laid...?
northern_sky Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 What if he were not doing it to impress women or snag a date? Is it possible that we do things in this world for ourselves and not to just get laid...? If it was clear given the context that they were just doing it for themselves, then that wouldn't be a turn off. It's hard for me to imagine such a scenario, though.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 If it was clear given the context that they were just doing it for themselves, then that wouldn't be a turn off. It's hard for me to imagine such a scenario, though. Easy. Take a football player who does a backflip after scoring a touchdown. I seriously doubt he's trying to attract a female at that moment. It's more likely that he's exhibiting his bad ass-ness to other men he's competing with. Again, context. I agree that if a guy is out on a date and starts randomly backflipping to show off to his girl, then yea, that's kinda weird...but there are far more occasions where a guy is "flaunting" for himself or for someone else that isn't a female he is trying to attract...
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 It really depends on what you're flaunting, the context and how you're flaunting it. Like many women I am turned off by overt flaunting. If a guy puts a shirtless pic in his online dating profile, the sheer vanity, insecurity and lack of taste he displays overrides whatever physical perks he may possess. To be honest, there's nothing wrong with flaunting if it's done in a discrete fashion. I think the best approach is to show rather than tell. Instead of slipping that you have a PhD from Harvard, *show* your intelligence by writing an enticing, clever profile. Everyone sells themselves, especially when it comes to dating. There's nothing wrong with recognizing that. But selling yourself is an art form. The people who flaunt in less overt ways aren't necessarily less narcissistic, they're just smarter and less insecure. That said, I'm sure there are some overt flaunters who are that way because their arrogance makes it impossible for them to restrain themselves. Yes, yes, and yes.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 What if he were not doing it to impress women or snag a date? Is it possible that we do things in this world for ourselves and not to just get laid...? What other purpose do you have to run around shirtless? Is that really 'for yourself'? C'mon.
january2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I agree that if a guy is out on a date and starts randomly backflipping to show off to his girl, then yea, that's kinda weird...but there are far more occasions where a guy is "flaunting" for himself or for someone else that isn't a female he is trying to attract... Hmmm, karate class circa summer 2001, 5 topless guys + 1 (not topless) girl... I've noticed that when there are 'available' females around, the level of "flauntness" seems to go up. Particularly if the number of guys>number of girls.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Easy. Take a football player who does a backflip after scoring a touchdown. I seriously doubt he's trying to attract a female at that moment. It's more likely that he's exhibiting his bad ass-ness to other men he's competing with. Again, context. Yes, context. The context of this thread is flaunting to make yourself more desirable to women. So this example is really a red herring.
Romance Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I live everything to mostly be revealed right away, no secrets or hidden pasts.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 What other purpose do you have to run around shirtless? Is that really 'for yourself'? C'mon. I know you look down upon what I do, and I've accepted that.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I know you look down upon what I do, and I've accepted that. Why aren't you answering the question, and being honest about your motivations?
tami-chan Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 In this case, Hokie, if you have the opportunity to help a charity AND "flaunt" your bod-then why not??????? This is a good way of "flaunting" your bod-since it is almost the norm or acceptable "un-dress" code. The key is "APPROPRIATENESS". Ill-fitting anything is never appropriate. Anyway, normal, happy people appreciate a good sight-i.e shirtless-sweating-muscle-ripping-clean-man running for a good cause . People who are offended by it are 1) jealous 2) need to get a life 3) jealous. BTW, is it just me , or is SG relentless in busting Hokie's balls?
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 I've noticed that when there are 'available' females around, the level of "flauntness" seems to go up. Particularly if the number of guys>number of girls. Agreed. Guys are often in competition with other guys, just like women are almost always in competition with other women.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 BTW, is it just me , or is SG relentless in busting Hokie's balls? Nope, not you. I know the real Hokie. It's maddening watching him pretend like this, that he doesn't use his half-naked body to attract women.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Why aren't you answering the question, and being honest about your motivations? Because it doesnt matter how I answer the question; you already have your own answer for me to the question.
Author USMCHokie Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 In this case, Hokie, if you have the opportunity to help a charity AND "flaunt" your bod-then why not??????? This is a good way of "flaunting" your bod-since it is almost the norm or acceptable "un-dress" code. The key is "APPROPRIATENESS". Ill-fitting anything is never appropriate. Anyway, normal, happy people appreciate a good sight-i.e shirtless-sweating-muscle-ripping-clean-man running for a good cause . People who are offended by it are 1) jealous 2) need to get a life 3) jealous. And this is all it is.
january2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 BTW, is it just me , or is SG relentless in busting Hokie's balls? No, it's not just you. I have a sneaking suspicion that perhaps it is more appropriate for that two-way to happen via PM. Ooops, did I just say that? Agreed. Guys are often in competition with other guys, just like women are almost always in competition with other women. Yes, I wish it weren't the case, but it is.
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Because it doesnt matter how I answer the question; you already have your own answer for me to the question. This has nothing to do with me, only you. You're the one asking about flaunting, and how and why to pull it off to attract women and make yourself more desireable to them. You'd likely benefit if you explained why you feel it's necessary to flaunt your half-naked body, as opposed to your other qualities (which you don't flaunt, and I cannot understand why not).
Star Gazer Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 No, it's not just you. I have a sneaking suspicion that perhaps it is more appropriate for that two-way to happen via PM. Ooops, did I just say that? We've already discussed this ad nauseam via email, which is why I'm so dumbfounded by this entire thread and the act he's putting on.
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