Star Gazer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I hear my female coworkers actually laugh at men who do the gentlemen thing as if they are the most pathetic beings on earth. Where in G-d's name do you find such women? I've never in my LIFE heard a woman laugh about a man paying for dinner. Ever. In fact, it's the first question girlfriends ask one another after a first date: "Did he pay?" If he didn't (i.e., if she paid any portion), the response is a scowl and the conversation about the date is over. For those of you who want to take paying on the first date to an even higher level, if at dinner, whip your method of payment out and hand it to the server before the bill even hits the table so she doesn't even have the chance to offer. Wink, and tell her that she can pick up the tab next time...and you'll win her over. Every. Single. Time. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 If you're looking for a place where women pay for dates, then Brazil isn't exactly the place to go. Sorry. No sh*t...was going to say the very same thing. Link to post Share on other sites
collegeguy_24 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 If they were not thrilled about it why did get tons of action during that time and why did I have four women wanting to marry me. My friends who do the gentlemen thing are the ones who end up alone and get cheated on with men like me. I hear my female coworkers actually laugh at men who do the gentlemen thing as if they are the most pathetic beings on earth. I cannot believe I am saying this, and I think my dignity was just hurt, but I agree with woggle on this post. I am one of those "Nice guys", and I get screwed every time, I do the gentlemanly thing, I get screwed, and thing is, I can't stop, it was pounded into my head to be a gentleman. Guess that means I am meant to be alone then. Link to post Share on other sites
tami-chan Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Opening and holding a door is common courtest, regardless of gender. Common courtesy for whom? do you also have women pull the chair for you? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 It's not just paying for dinner. It's opening doors and they bring in love notes their men write and laught at then. Plus one of them laughed at how pathetic her husband looked after he cooked her dinner. This is what being a considerate gentlemen gets a man these days. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I am one of those "Nice guys", and I get screwed every time, I do the gentlemanly thing, I get screwed, and thing is, I can't stop, it was pounded into my head to be a gentleman. Guess that means I am meant to be alone then. Or you can use that to filter out the female douchebags and nutjobs and find yourself a decent woman...they are out there... Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Well, I want to go to a place where women actually believe in equality, not because women do something because they dont have a choice. We have a choice. We choose not to go out with men who don't pay on the first date. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I cannot believe I am saying this, and I think my dignity was just hurt, but I agree with woggle on this post. I am one of those "Nice guys", and I get screwed every time, I do the gentlemanly thing, I get screwed, and thing is, I can't stop, it was pounded into my head to be a gentleman. Guess that means I am meant to be alone then. Very true. Actions speak louder than words and you see with women's actions what they really think of gentlemen. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 No, I intend to pay for that. Your sarcastic attitude is a reflection on your character though. Oh c'mon, are you really that sensitive? What do know about my character? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Common courtesy for whom? do you also have women pull the chair for you? He probably has them carry his heavy suitcases for him too. And fight off intruders in the house. And coach little league. Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 For those of you who want to take paying on the first date to an even higher level, if at dinner, whip your method of payment out and hand it to the server before the bill even hits the table so she doesn't even have the chance to offer. Wink, and tell her that she can pick up the tab next time...and you'll win her over. Every. Single. Time. This is a very easy and effective way to get that second date without even trying. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Oh c'mon, are you really that sensitive? What do know about my character? That you lack it. Your posts show it. Link to post Share on other sites
ConflictedGuy27 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I'll be losing sleep tonight. Don't even know who the hell you are either. ahh... well allow me to introduce myself, kiddo. I'm a gentleman; a romantic one @that. when I post, I suggest you take notes; that is if your interest in the opposite sex extends beyond short term encounters with desperate girls. nice to meet you. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 We have a choice. We choose not to go out with men who don't pay on the first date. Point proven for the third time Link to post Share on other sites
classof2014 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 @ star gazer: Ok so if a a guy that was great in every other way: nice, super good looking, funny, smart, add in things you like here, etc. and he didn't pay for the entire first date, you would dump him? That seems kinda ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 these days. I love how you're always in "women these days!" mode when you're talking about the psycho nutjob twins you work with. How old are these women? My SO cooked dinner for us today. Holy f-ck, I better run out and cheat on him! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I love how you're always in "women these days!" mode when you're talking about the psycho nutjob twins you work with. How old are these women? My SO cooked dinner for us today. Holy f-ck, I better run out and cheat on him! They are in their 30s. Link to post Share on other sites
dispatch3d Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 call me new fashioned then. I want a girl to like me for who I am. That's it. Not what I do. Not how nice a resteraunt I take her to. Not whether I hold doors. I just want her to like me for my personality. That's it. And if my personality isn't good enough to keep her. then fine. She wasn't going to stick around anyways. Even if that first date was $100 and I paid for it in secret. Link to post Share on other sites
collegeguy_24 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Or you can use that to filter out the female douchebags and nutjobs and find yourself a decent woman...they are out there... How does one do that? I found a quality woman, she eventually left me, go figure. The other women I met either left me after one date or friend zoned me. Keep in mind, I payed for the dates. Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 That you lack it. Your posts show it. You're being to hard on me. Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Max Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 ahh... well allow me to introduce myself, kiddo. I'm a gentleman; a romantic one @that. when I post, I suggest you take notes; that is if your interest in the opposite sex extends beyond short term encounters with desperate girls. nice to meet you. Women making the first move isn't desperate. Your input is no better than mine. Link to post Share on other sites
tami-chan Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Women greatly outnumber men there. If I could, I'd move back to Canada. and why not? no job there? wanted by the law? not enough rich women to pay for the company of "universally good -looking men" like you? what's up? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 @ star gazer: Ok so if a a guy that was great in every other way: nice, super good looking, funny, smart, add in things you like here, etc. and he didn't pay for the entire first date, you would dump him? That seems kinda ridiculous. Well, I can't "dump" someone after ONE date. But yes. Admittedly, there was a very nice, super good looking, very funny, smart, charming, successful dude that I went on a date with over the summer... and he LET ME PAY for half of the first date. It bothered me. A lot. I was actually really torn about it, I didn't know what it "meant." But regardless of what it "meant," it bothered me enough that when he suggested we go out again, I actually said no. The right guy for me would never let me pay for half of the first date. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetjasmine Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 They are in their 30s. And these are the same two crazy dysfunctional women you've mentioned multiple times here? Yet you still think that they represent all women. Therefore it's impossible that there are women who actually do appreciate nice gestures like their partners cooking dinner or writing them a note. Makes perfect sense to me! Link to post Share on other sites
USMCHokie Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 call me new fashioned then. I want a girl to like me for who I am. That's it. Not what I do. Not how nice a resteraunt I take her to. Not whether I hold doors. I just want her to like me for my personality. That's it. And if my personality isn't good enough to keep her. then fine. She wasn't going to stick around anyways. Even if that first date was $100 and I paid for it in secret. Your personality is reflected in your actions... And everyone seems to associate paying for a first date as a requirement that you take a girl out to the most expensive restaurant in the city and you shower her with gifts...where they heck do you make that jump in logic?! Paying for the first date could mean paying for a cup of coffee at the local coffee shop, or an inexpensive (or expensive) meal at a restaurant, or even paying for a damn ferry across the river to go hiking at the park on the island...it's not how much the guy pays, it's that the guy paid... Link to post Share on other sites
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