Feelin Frisky Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 Some women just see the jock half empty.
meerkat stew Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 While chugging a beer with one hand and curling a 50 lb weight with the other? I am actually drinking a beer, listening to a streamed radio program, drafting a letter of understanding agreement, checking my Email, smoking a cigar, and wondering whether "Paris Hilton drugs" is worth clicking on in the dogpile "most fetched" list. Curls are tomorrow in the gym.
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 While chugging a beer with one hand and curling a 50 lb weight with the other? Don't forget that I'm also eating Lumberjack style pancakes at the same time! I am actually drinking a beer, listening to a streamed radio program, drafting a letter of understanding agreement, checking my Email, smoking a cigar, and wondering whether "Paris Hilton drugs" is worth clicking on in the dogpile "most fetched" list. Curls are tomorrow in the gym. Yes "Paris Hilton Drugs" is more than worth it! Makes you wonder what else Paris Hilton can smuggle up her vajayjay...??
jamesum Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 (edited) No offense to men on here but I'm sure I would not date the type of men who spend time posting on an internet forum regularly. Men who are really your masculine catches aren't spending time on the internet on a forum of this nature. This is more of a feminine type of activity. It's true that I'm very sure men I meet in real life, if they were the type to be on here, I really would not be attracted to them because they would exhibit these types of qualities in real life (sorry, kinda feminine.) I know right? I play soccer regularly with my friends several times a week and I also keep seeing some girls who play with us everytime. I mean sports are masculine activities, you know. Women who are really your 'feminine catches' (whatever that means) arent spending time doing activities of such physical nature. Im pretty sure all women who play sports are a bunch of masculine butch ladies. Also I dont know why I see a lot of women at school. Education is a male interest. Edited September 11, 2010 by jamesum
alexlakeman Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 No offense to men on here but I'm sure I would not date the type of men who spend time posting on an internet forum regularly. Men who are really your masculine catches aren't spending time on the internet on a forum of this nature. This is more of a feminine type of activity. It's true that I'm very sure men I meet in real life, if they were the type to be on here, I really would not be attracted to them because they would exhibit these types of qualities in real life (sorry, kinda feminine.) LOL, ouch.... ... maybe we're the more "sensitive" types or the more "romantic" types, that's why we're here, to get the women's side OP, you sound bitter, lol
Woggle Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I know right? I play soccer regularly with my friends several times a week and I also keep seeing some girls who play with us everytime. I mean sports are masculine activities, you know. Women who are really your 'feminine catches' (whatever that means) arent spending time doing activities of such physical nature. Im pretty sure all women who play sports are a bunch of masculine butch ladies. Also I dont know why I see a lot of women at school. Education is a male interest. This is blatantly sexist but so is the other way around.
MrNate Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 (edited) No offense to men on here but I'm sure I would not date the type of men who spend time posting on an internet forum regularly. Men who are really your masculine catches aren't spending time on the internet on a forum of this nature. This is more of a feminine type of activity. It's true that I'm very sure men I meet in real life, if they were the type to be on here, I really would not be attracted to them because they would exhibit these types of qualities in real life (sorry, kinda feminine.) Hear that guys? Talking about your problems and trying to find solutions is a feminine trait! Heck, why is the director of this site even a male? Too funny. Most ignorant post of the year goes to.....*opens envelope* Edited September 11, 2010 by MrNate
lab_brat Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 This is blatantly sexist but so is the other way around. lol, i'm fairly sure that was the point he was trying to make. Although i'm not sure, im kinda distracted by simultaneously typing, painting my toenails, cooking muffins, reading a romance novel and doing bicep curls with my 1pound hot pink dumbbells
rlindzie Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 Back to the original post topic, I have to agree with ya on this one. I see all the time just negative stuff that men say [as well as women] and a whole lot of sex topics and topics not related somehow end up being about sex and how women dont give it enough or this or that. but also some really honest and helpful things. There will always be thoes jerk off guys/girls no matter where you look, and it sucks bc some people have real questions and they just get blown off by some random sex tangent or negative ned/nacy rant. i feel if i read too many posts it can leave a bad taste in my mouth. But like some on here I like to try to give some good advice and hear good advice so thats why i continue to read
lino Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 If my wife/girlfriend doesn't look like she's still 20 at 45, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. If my wife/girlfriend gains 5lbs, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. If my wife/girlfriend doesn't perform oral daily, anal, threesomes, and any other porn fantasy I have, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. If my wife/girlfriend gets "too" emotional, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. If my wife/girlfriend doesn't follow every sexual fad presented by the media, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. If my wife/girlfriend doesn't want to have sex at least once day, it's fair for me to have an affair/leave. It's always about sex, sex, sex. I truly am finding that this forum should be renamed Sexshack since love almost is never in the equation to any relationship problem. Or more aptly, love = sex and nothing more. I don't visit this site that often anymore but back when I did, I never saw any guys writing about any of the above stuff. Neither do I see it now when I visit every now and then. Unless you can quote examples of such, I think it's all in your head. I wonder where kindness, goodness of heart, sincerity, honesty, loyalty, sticking with your partner during bad times, etc have gone. These started to go when the majority of females started to put these traits as a very 2nd and 3rd priority. Most decent men have been f*cked over being those things you wrote above. Have you ever dumped a decent man who treated you well for no real reason? If so, then you're part of the cause creating guys like this and have no reason to complain. As a man, when you see other men who are either violent, sleazy, notoriously unfaithful, criminals or all of the above yet they're constantly in relationships with women... The desire to be the kind, good hearted, sincere, honest, loyal, etc man kind of wears off.
Fouts Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 Don't take the board so personally. Most members here have been dumped and are in a mode of desperate, hurting, self centeredness. Some of us are between, or in relationships and can give good, squared away advice. OP, just try to filter it out a bit more effectively
GooseChaser Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 It is both genders but we tend to recognize it much more when it is directed at our gender. It is sadly the way of the world today. People who are actually faithful and don't treat relationships as disposable are the real radicals today if you ask me. Exactly, Woggle! It's good to see you recognize here that both sides have good and bad. *clap* I think you have a good point that it's easier to see bad things when they affect you more directly, so a person would notice and be impacted by the opposite gender's bad actions more quickly.
waynebrady Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 All the women on here that says stuff like "Men like the chase", "Make him work to get you", "Play hard to get", "Never ask a guy out or initiate any contact" and all the woman who expects the man to do all the work and put in all the effort is turning me off women at times.
Mme. Chaucer Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 LOL, ouch.... ... maybe we're the more "sensitive" types or the more "romantic" types, that's why we're here, to get the women's side OP, you sound bitter, lol Alexlakeman, you certainly don't present as a sensitive or romantic type ...
Woggle Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I hate to say it but what Lino says is right. From what I observe the men who demonstrate the traits that the OP desires are the ones who end up getting screwed over. What incentive does a man have to be like these days when in many cases it will just get him dumped or cheated on with a scumbag. You have to place some of the blame on women who treat like that like crap. Almost every player or misogynistic pig I know was once a good and faithful who treated women with respect at one time.
Anela Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I feel this way at times - I posted something similar on Thursday (I think it was). I would cite a few examples, but I don't have time (I'm thinking of things from several months back, as well as recently). Meerkat: If she gained 50lbs, then you might leave her? Where's the love in that? To anyone who thinks that feminism is the cause of all of this: feminism is what has me not taking misogynists seriously, and appreciating the good guys. I appreciate kindness, respect, and anything else along those lines - those qualities can co-exist in a man who is also sexy and great in bed. In fact, those qualities are a turn-on - a real connection. How many women were expected to suck it up, and deal with the same sort of crap, before feminism came along? My grandmother was hit my grandfather *once* - she helped her brother with his boxing training, so she knew how to hit. He never touched her in that way again. I didn't always get along with her, but when it comes to that, I always think, "Go, grandma!" One forum that leaves me not feeling this way (the same as TwoForgiving), is the Coping forum, where men are also posting, trying to deal with the letdowns, disappointments, betrayals.
Ruby Slippers Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I don't agree with everything the OP said, but I understand what she's saying. When I first started reading this forum, reading what men REALLY think, I have to admit I was shocked and saddened. But this was all part of the process of growing up, taking off the rose-colored glasses I used to love to wear, and seeing the world and people as they really are. But you have to change your attitude, and realize that LS and other online forums are a gift, because they provide a framework in which people can be totally honest. It is rare that anyone is truly honest in the real world. So many competing agendas, power struggles, and defenses are in play, and many people don't have the courage to live honestly. The truth might hurt, but I do believe that it sets you free, in that knowledge is definitely power. Now that I know how most men think, I can deal with them much more effectively. I can enter any interaction with a man with a much clearer idea of where he's coming from, what he wants, what drives him. And you bet your butt I use that to my advantage, especially in running my business -- but the men never have any complaints, either. It's incredibly satisfying to see a man let down his defenses and be TRULY honest with you because he knows you can handle it and you won't judge him for being a man. When you let people be who they are, you become almost magical to them. And I wouldn't be able to do that with men unless I had a better understanding of how they think. So thank you, gentlemen, for being honest here. Don't ever stop.
jamesum Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 People who are disappointed to find out that men are very sex-oriented are naive and have little understanding of science.
Feelin Frisky Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 ...So thank you, gentlemen, for being honest here. Don't ever stop. Major hearts for that...
GooseChaser Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 I think you put that well, Ruby Slippers. I also think it's valuable to be able to learn from these forums and gain a greater understanding of the opposite sex. It's definitely knowledge you can use in life to help you. The forums are also a good place to get advice if you want to be more anonymous.
meerkat stew Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 Meerkat: If she gained 50lbs, then you might leave her? Where's the love in that? No, not at all. I -definitely- would leave her, unless her weight gain was due to a documented health issue. Where's the "love" in allowing oneself to become a giant fatass once in a relationship? Where's the love in effectively telling one's partner, "I don't care enough about your physical attraction to me to stay even reasonably fit?" Where's the love in putting one's health at risk and causing angst to one's partner because of it? This is not a gender issue, and I guarantee you many women in this forum wouldn't hesitate to leave their BF or even husband if he put on the male equivalent of 50 pounds on a woman, probably 75-80 pounds. To anyone who thinks that feminism is the cause of all of this: feminism is what has me not taking misogynists seriously, and appreciating the good guys. Feminism is the cause of you tossing around the "misogynist" title in description of good men who don't deserve the term. Who are the "good guys," the feebs who agree with the preposterous notion that women aren't currently equal with men and that they are still, or ever were, oppressed by some imaginary "patriarchy?" Great, enjoy those weak, supplicating "good guys.":laugh: How many women were expected to suck it up, and deal with the same sort of crap, before feminism came along? My grandmother was hit my grandfather *once* - she helped her brother with his boxing training, so she knew how to hit. He never touched her in that way again. I didn't always get along with her, but when it comes to that, I always think, "Go, grandma!" It isn't clear, did your grandfather hit your grandma, she hit him or both? You might be interested to learn that 50% of all domestic violence is committed by women, men who are so abused by their wives that they call the police (imagine what level of abuse it takes for a man to do that) are usually the ones arrested despite being the one abused. 50% of the violence done by women, yet where are the billboards with abused men? Where is the "Violence against Men Act?" Where are the shelters that acccept men? All these sexist, feminist laws are in the process of being overturned in the courts. Moreover, there is a startling amount of physical abuse by men that is faked for leverage in family courts. Unlike most other areas of the law, a man accused of some misbehavior by a woman is guilty until proven innocent in many courts. THAT is the product of runaway feminism in our culture. "You go grandma!" indeed... disgusting.
Woggle Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 What meerkat posted is harsh but true. Women who demand all these things from should be willing to give them in return but ask that and they think you are trying to take the right to vote away.
InceptorsRule Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 You sound like you probably weigh in at around 300 pounds and are speaking to us through an orange haze of Cheeto dust.
WalkingtheAbyss Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 My wife has just had an affair for the past two and a half months. Even before and during that time she gave out very rarely but i never once thought to leave her. Even since the affair i'm trying my best to resolve the problems we have and again have no desire to get rid of her. I have tried hating her for what she has done, i have tried resenting her for what she has done but instead i still love her and actually pitty her for the disgrace she has brought upon herself, her family and our family. She has become the one person she has always hated and will have to deal with that for a long time. However, there are many people on this forum that can be perceived as very bitter, male and female, and that is what could put you off. Remember one thing, people have been brought together on this forum for several reasons but mainly because of their bad luck with the opposite sex. Negativity can be contagious.
InceptorsRule Posted September 11, 2010 Posted September 11, 2010 Feels Like I'm Off Men Permanently I left an abusive relationship over 2 years ago. I wanted to get healthy in so far as I wanted to be strong enough and aware enough to not find myself getting involved with another abusive man. Even though I've recently started to date other people I have come to the realization that I don't want to date/get involved with anyone. I don't have any lingering feelings for my ex nor do I ever want him to come back into my life but I don't understand my own feelings. I gave myself time to heal from the previous R, have been getting therapy to deal with the psychological abuse, worked on myself. But every time I meet a new man, I find myself asking "why am I here." I combated the loneliness on my own after escaping the LTR and I don't find myself lonely, I don't need anyone financially, I have activities that keep me busy, I have friends for companionship. I had to rebuild my life from scratch with nothing after leaving the R and I can't see myself ever sharing my life, my home with anyone anymore. I almost feel stubborn about never putting myself in that kind of situation again. Even though the men I meet are not like my ex, I just feel so jaded about men in general that when I'm out with them, I look at them and ask why do I need them. I find myself not believing that men can be honest, respectful, that they're only trying to get to know me for sex, or are looking for someone to help them out of their loneliness. I don't even miss the sex. I find it a meaningless act (that is definitely thanks to my ex who made me feel meaningless for years.) I had sex with a couple of guys and even though they made me feel more than my ex ever did, it just wasn't enough to make me want to go looking for it. I thought after giving myself some time that I would feel ready to start something serious with someone new but I just don't feel it. Yes, I see myself wanting a companion at times with whom I could enjoy certain outings but overall I'm just fine doing most things on my own or with my friends. My friends are starting to ask me why I don't want to date one person for more than a few dates and I can't explain better than say that I don't want anyone in my life. Has anyone ever felt like this after leaving an abusive LTR? Do you wake one day and feel like you're ready to share your life with someone again? I've spoken to my therapist and he says it's normal and that there is no prescribed time for when people are ready but I figured 2 and a half years would have been long enough especially when I have no lingering feelings (whether love or hate) for my ex, I just don't care about him in any sense anymore. Had staying with the abuse for so many years completely destroy my attitude towards men? OP posted the above back in November 2009. This says it all. OP you're projecting on all of LS. This is your own baggage. Take the good that you can from reading websites and ignore what you don't feel is helpful.
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