A new theory on seduction...need your views

[MikeCohen]

Hey Guys,

 

I am new on this forum and I have an interesting theory that I would like to share with you all. Please let me know what you think about it.

 

I think that at the essence, seduction comes down to "marketing." Your goal is to lead a woman into believing that you are a "hot product" that she has got to have! You're selling "yourself." And she’s the “customer.”

 

What do you think about this? And how far can this theory can be taken?

[newdawn]

Yes, in the absence of love, that's all it is - marketing.

 

And then it's just a matter of time before the next shiny thing comes along....

 

There's more to life than seduction....much more.

[yamanbt]

Marketing is very key, but the main thing is to not let them know too much about you. After the initial marketing ploy through charm, good looks, money, status or whatever, the key is to let her project her desires onto you. In other words, let her paint her own picture of who you are without you giving up a lot of information. This works because women (with the help of media) have developed this unrealistic fantasy about the guy they want and think they deserve. You can be that guy if you don't let her know a lot of info about the real you. So in other words, marketing is good, but after the initial hook, less is more. I guess in a lot of ways that is how marketing works

[Mme. Chaucer]

Or, you could look for a woman who intrigues you, to whom you're attracted, and SINCERELY flatter her by showing interest in who she really is. If it works both ways - you could be in business! And without employing any weird constructs.

[Feelin Frisky]

The essence of marketing is not "selling yourself"--it is merely appearing more worthy of being bought. One can either BE more worthy or appear more worthy. Those who merely appear will some day give themselves away. Those who earn worthiness while appearing so have no such worry--they only have worry about the shortfalls of those who perceive and "buy" them (in other words, is the buyer worthy of my worthiness?). "Sales" is something different--it's "closing" the act of market fulfillment and needs its own canon of savoir-faire. Perhaps sales skills in this "closing the deal" amount to what we call seduction. Do we seduce passively by being marketable? Or do we seduce actively using marketing as a tool?

[MikeCohen]

Yes, in the absence of love, that's all it is - marketing.

 

And then it's just a matter of time before the next shiny thing comes along....

 

There's more to life than seduction....much more.

 

Agreed that there is more to life than seduction but seduction is a big thing in today's world and it would be right to say that most men today are looking to seduce women in one way or another.

 

Marketing is very key, but the main thing is to not let them know too much about you. After the initial marketing ploy through charm, good looks, money, status or whatever, the key is to let her project her desires onto you. In other words, let her paint her own picture of who you are without you giving up a lot of information. This works because women (with the help of media) have developed this unrealistic fantasy about the guy they want and think they deserve. You can be that guy if you don't let her know a lot of info about the real you. So in other words, marketing is good, but after the initial hook, less is more. I guess in a lot of ways that is how marketing works

 

That's true, I have seen this work a lot of times. The key is to keep her guessing and to keep her wanting more though I have also seen this backfire sometimes. If the women is smart and classy then she can easily catch a man who is playing with her.

 

Or, you could look for a woman who intrigues you, to whom you're attracted, and SINCERELY flatter her by showing interest in who she really is. If it works both ways - you could be in business! And without employing any weird constructs.

 

Sincerely flattering wouldn't usually work because there are loads of guys out there that are trying to flatter her so sometimes you have to try a different approach and market yourself in a way that she will find you attractive.

 

The essence of marketing is not "selling yourself"--it is merely appearing more worthy of being bought. One can either BE more worthy or appear more worthy. Those who merely appear will some day give themselves away. Those who earn worthiness while appearing so have no such worry--they only have worry about the shortfalls of those who perceive and "buy" them (in other words, is the buyer worthy of my worthiness?). "Sales" is something different--it's "closing" the act of market fulfillment and needs its own canon of savoir-faire. Perhaps sales skills in this "closing the deal" amount to what we call seduction. Do we seduce passively by being marketable? Or do we seduce actively using marketing as a tool?

 

I think we seduce actively using marketing as a tool. After a while it becomes part of you and when the situation arises you start marketing "yourself" unconsciously. However I do feel that seduction occurs at different levels, not only at "Sales".

 

It’s not that they are trying to “trick” you into buying. Not at all. It’s because these sellers understand the fact that nobody likes to be sold.

[CLC2008]

If you are applying this theory in attempt to build a meaningful, loving relationship, then great. But if its merely to use, play games and toy with someone, then its no different from the mentality of a sociopath, imo.

[somedude81]

"Marketing" oneself to women is hardly a new concept. Animals have been doing it for millions of years.

 

The problem is that humans don't really know how to naturally do it. Our societies have confused us.

Or, you could look for a woman who intrigues you, to whom you're attracted, and SINCERELY flatter her by showing interest in who she really is. IF it works both ways - you could be in business! And without employing any weird constructs.

Yeah right

 

If flattering women actually attracted them to a man, there would be a lot less bitter men out there.

 

Unless the guy is very good looking or rich, a woman pretty much has to be seduced.

[MikeCohen]

If you are applying this theory in attempt to build a meaningful, loving relationship, then great. But if its merely to use, play games and toy with someone, then its no different from the mentality of a sociopath, imo.

 

Yes I do use it to build meaningful relationships. Works great btw.

 

"Marketing" oneself to women is hardly a new concept. Animals have been doing it for millions of years.

 

The problem is that humans don't really know how to naturally do it. Our societies have confused us.

 

Yeah right

 

If flattering women actually attracted them to a man, there would be a lot less bitter men out there.

 

Unless the guy is very good looking or rich, a woman pretty much has to be seduced.

 

Spot on. That's what i said in my previous post. Too many guys doing the same thing and imo it bores women.

[Dante311]

MC, you're from Boston aren't ya?

[MikeCohen]

No dude I am from California. You from boston?

[Dante311]

No dude I am from California. You from boston?

 

 

Actually yes, I am.

[florence of suburbia]

When I got my most recent job, instead of trying to market myself to what I thought they were looking for, I just talked about who I was at the core and what I could provide to them. I put my strengths forward and let them decide whether it was a fit. it worked.

 

With relationships, it is the same. If you put your true self out there, show them what you have to offer and they pass it up, you know you're not their cup of tea. There's no point pursuing it further.

[Rorschach]

Hey Guys,

 

I am new on this forum and I have an interesting theory that I would like to share with you all. Please let me know what you think about it.

 

I think that at the essence, seduction comes down to "marketing." Your goal is to lead a woman into believing that you are a "hot product" that she has got to have! You're selling "yourself." And she’s the “customer.”

 

What do you think about this? And how far can this theory can be taken?

 

I'm too much of a romantic to believe that this applies to anything other than casual sex/instant appeal.

 

But for that introduction and that first date? Sure I can believe that it has alot to do with portraying yourself in a way you want people to see you.

[lso802]

No. It wouldn't work for me. Marketing requires advertising, and I hardly do that. In fact, I usually try to stay under the radar and do my thing.

[CLC2008]

Yes I do use it to build meaningful relationships. Works great btw.

 

Doubtful.

[meerkat stew]

And without employing any weird constructs.

 

Is a male peacock's plumage a "weird construct?" How about a male lion's mane? Courtship and mating displays, and learning to build attraction in women is -exactly- that, and aren't "weird constructs," just learning a new skill.