Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Mary, it's simple the woman demands to know what is going on with the man she is seeing, now I am bluntly honest, if I want an FWB with someone then I will be honest about my intentions. I expect a woman I'm getting serious to demand what my intentions are and I have no problem telling her, not all men are like that, but it is up to the woman to stand firm and not crumble in regards to knowing where she stands with a man. If she doesn't do this then I can have no sympathy for her when she is used and winds up being emotionally shattered, none whatsoever. Most women who * demand * to know where you stand will cause the guy to bolt ... You should be the one who lets her know your intentions and initiate the * talk * men like to lead and he will decide if he wants a relationship with the woman. Some women want to take the iniative but men are the persuers and I can imagine while they like the girl to initiate sexual encounters that it also should be balanced . Each wanting to make love and each initiating... Well, she won't be used by you or anyone else if she slows things down and gets to know the man. Then when they are ready to finally be intimate she will have some idea of his charactor.
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 I could use them. No woman has ever been attracted to me in a sexual way and I wonder if it's even going to happen even once and my dates have been one disaster after the next. Thank you gamma. I can see you are already developing confidance by reaching out to a woman
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 If the tips work, they are definitely good. This is true no matter who gives them. Thats right gamma. You are going to be WAY ahead of the guys here that rely on lame Don Juan type forums
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 If the tips work, they are definitely good. This is true no matter who gives them. Do as you please, I await to see the new you. I think Mary3 will be more a detriment to your fortunes more than anything, but it is your life and your rules, good luck!
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 And if you have any sense Gamma, you wouldn't listen to a single one of them. Remember: "Judge a woman on what she does, not what she says". It sounds like after getting to know you here that you seem to FEAR women for some reason. You don't want to look at them. You dont want to tell them they look beautiful. You have your own built in system that accomplishes what ? You advocate what kind of treatment of them exactly ? Now if I am wrong please clarify... Remember this : Women are beautiful treasures and should be treated with the greatest kindness
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Thats right gamma. You are going to be WAY ahead of the guys here that rely on lame Don Juan type forums If you say so. I'm so far ahead of Gamma it will take him seven lightyears to catch up. I'm nearly 20 years his junior and I am in a much better position than he is, I'm just in search of that woman who will be a welcome addition to my life and I didnt get that inspiration from this forum.
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 I can reach out to women and become good freinds with them. They never seem to be sexually attracted to me. Add on top of that, I'm a nervous wreck on first dates and it's no surprise that I don't get a second date. What do you think I should change? Okay your first TIP : Never approach a woman as wanting to be a buddy IF you want romance. Approach her and if you feel romantic stirrings then you let that be known. Maybe a kiss at the end of the date and let her know you would love to see her again
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 It sounds like after getting to know you here that you seem to FEAR women for some reason. You don't want to look at them. You dont want to tell them they look beautiful. You have your own built in system that accomplishes what ? You advocate what kind of treatment of them exactly ? Now if I am wrong please clarify... Remember this : Women are beautiful treasures and should be treated with the greatest kindness Fear women? Don't flatter yourself, I'm scared of nothing and no one. I do look at women, I just don't behave like every other chump who drools at the mouth when he sees a woman. I look, admire and carry on about my business. I will tell a woman she is beautiful when she earns the right to be complimented. My own built in system will help me achieve what I want to achieve in this life. What treatment do I advocate of women? The same treatment that everyone else gets. So first Zengirl tries to pyscho-analyze me and now you're at it. Risible, you'll not break me, nor will you understand me, so it is best you quit while you are ahead.
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 If you say so. I'm so far ahead of Gamma it will take him seven lightyears to catch up. I'm nearly 20 years his junior and I am in a much better position than he is, I'm just in search of that woman who will be a welcome addition to my life and I didnt get that inspiration from this forum. If you are so far ahead of gamma then why are you on here seeking advice on how to get a woman ? Please clarify...
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 If you are so far ahead of gamma then why are you on here seeking advice on how to get a woman ? Please clarify... Go through my posts and ask my where I have ever asked for advice? Find me a single thread that I have started asking for advice? Go on, Mary, go on. Make my day.
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 I know a million things that don't work. What DOES work? What does work : Ask a good friend about how your approach is - how your clothes look , your general appearance . ( Note : I don't relate to PUA but all men who are dating should care how they approach a woman and their appearance . To me a pick up artist says stupid things to get a womans attention and a REAL man knows you don't need to do that lame sorry stuff because we just feel pity and irritation being next to you... You know what works gamma : " Just say Hi , I'm gamma , I saw you from the other side of the room and wanted to say hello " . No women is going to think that is lame. Its the real you introducing yourself....And a woman does like to be told she has a pretty dress on....( or whatever you find attractive , just don't lay it on too heavy ) If you don't want to ask a friend you can DM me your pic and I can give you tips
PJKino Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 The key is to remember that rejection is nothing to be scared and that a woman is just a woman and nothing special. I've conditioned myself into this train of thought and believe me, it is invaluable. When a gorgeous woman walks into a room, I'm always the last one to look and when I do, I look for a few seconds and carry on with what I'm doing because I know that I'll see several more beautiful women throughout the day. A woman is just a woman at the end of the day, she is a human like and some people have that look about them, I do, which is why I've never been approached but remember looks can be deceptive. What I would like to have you and Gamma do is go to a bar and approach as many women as possible throughout the night. Just walk over, say hello, grab a seat, sit down and iniate a conversation. Get used to doing that and once you do, it will be so much easier for you. Remember the only way to conquer a fear is by confronting it. P.S You can approach women anywhere, I suggested a bar because it's harder and will help you face up to rejection. Believe me i dont put women on a pedestal its just that if u approach a women and she acts like how dare you even say a word to her it just reinforces to me women arent attracted to me..
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Fear women? Don't flatter yourself, I'm scared of nothing and no one. I do look at women, I just don't behave like every other chump who drools at the mouth when he sees a woman. I look, admire and carry on about my business. I will tell a woman she is beautiful when she earns the right to be complimented. My own built in system will help me achieve what I want to achieve in this life. What treatment do I advocate of women? The same treatment that everyone else gets. So first Zengirl tries to pyscho-analyze me and now you're at it. Risible, you'll not break me, nor will you understand me, so it is best you quit while you are ahead. Be careful : Women might think you are a Gay.....everything you just wrote might be what a gay man might act like around women....
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Believe me i dont put women on a pedestal its just that if u approach a women and she acts like how dare you even say a word to her it just reinforces to me women arent attracted to me.. If she is attracted to you she will appreciate compliments . If she is not she won't want alot of interaction with you.
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Believe me i dont put women on a pedestal its just that if u approach a women and she acts like how dare you even say a word to her it just reinforces to me women arent attracted to me.. When it should tell you that, that particular woman isn't attracted to you. Learn to accept, embrace and move on from rejection.
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Be careful : Women might think you are a Gay.....everything you just wrote might be what a gay man might act like around women.... Risible. Give it up, it doesn't work.
PJKino Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 If she is attracted to you she will appreciate compliments . If she is not she won't want alot of interaction with you. Obviously..It just hurts when before you can say a word a women is so disgusted at you that she moves away..
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Obviously..It just hurts when before you can say a word a women is so disgusted at you that she moves away.. It's not nice. I will message you a little book that I have read and it helped change me, I read it three years ago and haven't looked back since.
PJKino Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 When it should tell you that, that particular woman isn't attracted to you. Learn to accept, embrace and move on from rejection. Im trying its easier said then done.. Its just frustrating knowing your a good hearted person who has allot of love to give and you cant find a women to give you a chance..
Sphere Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Im trying its easier said then done.. Its just frustrating knowing your a good hearted person who has allot of love to give and you cant find a women to give you a chance.. It's not supposed to be easy and we've all been in the same boat as you.
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 It's not nice. I will message you a little book that I have read and it helped change me, I read it three years ago and haven't looked back since. It's really sad you have to read from a book to know how not to act like a man....
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Risible. Give it up, it doesn't work. Risible ? Whats that ? You see what's happening here right ? You are interacting with a woman
Mary3 Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Obviously..It just hurts when before you can say a word a women is so disgusted at you that she moves away.. You want to know a secret ? I have been around men that weren't particularly attractive but they had alot of * confidance * . Hard to explain how that chemistry works but it does.. He has a certain spicy~ness and he knows how to approach me....I find that intriquing.
dispatch3d Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 You gave outdated lame 1970's advice . Numerous posters have told you the ideas are antiquated and not working. Don't be mad. Just stop wasting your life on silly web sites where fools congregate and give eachother useless advice. Remember : All those sites with all those guys telling you how to mistreat and be a jerk to a women : Newsflash : NONE of them have a girl long term. Or at best , none have anyone at all . Is that where you want to learn how to get and treat a real woman ? lol have you read the game? By the end of it style had 5-6 girlfriends at once. Right now the guy I'm reading has multiple relationships, though I can't tell how many. I would GUESS in the 4-6 range but he seems to really like his "primary". There are others who have just one girlfriend. I remember mystery himself mostly only having one girlfriend. I mean, calling those guys not successful with women is laughable. Telling my "techniques" don't work is pretty ****ing funny too. Also accusing me of treating women like a jerk is pretty funny. Where in here did I outline how I hit on girls. All I said is being a nice guy WILL NEVER WORK. Maybe if you hit on fat slobs of girls it will, but for most guys who are looking for a hot woman just forget "being nice". They've had guys "being EXTRA nice" to them their entire life. They WOULD be better off being complete *******s. Not that you are actually trying to debate anything here. You mostly are angry at me so you decide to personally attack me rather than prove some kind of point or argue against something. It's amazing to me you get this much attention from me. Probably the reason you decide to take such an approach to begin with.
dispatch3d Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 hahaha yeah tell the guys to be more confident. Classic.
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