MyNameIsJonas Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) That's fair, we're all entitled to our opinions. I suppose none of my previous post made sense to you huh? Despite everything I talked about was based off something in real life. Tangible, real life experience if you will... It made sense but it doesn't work and the underlying theory is horrible. This "system" and its author are mindset in taking advantage of low-confidence "nice guys" who have been kicked in the gut by low quality women. No man, regardless of looks, will ever hold down a high quality woman using this "system." One of the reasons I stay on this board is to help said guys find the light of confidence before they find the fake light of this BS system. Any guy can find the woman he wants but he needs confidence and it isn't going to come from a set of books written by some salesman promising them the world. Edited August 9, 2010 by MyNameIsJonas grammar
jadedone Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 It made sense but it doesn't work and the underlying theory is horrible. This "system" and its author are mindset in taking advantage of low-confidence "nice guys" who have been kicked in the gut by low quality women. No man, regardless of looks, will ever hold down a high quality woman using this "system." One of the reasons I stay on this board is to help said guys find the light of confidence before they find the fake light of this BS system. Any guy can find the woman he wants but he needs confidence and it isn't going to come from a set of books written by some salesman promising them the world. This stuff definitely works. Been there, done that. It's about building attraction. Once they are attracted, you switch gears and tone it down. The system doesn't make them confident, but using the techniques gives them success, and success gives them confidence.
dispatch3d Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 I hate to threadjack but this JadedHearts poster sounds a lot like the same marketed crap by David DeAngelo and his doubleyourdating.com website. 3 posts and he writes that much? Suspicious. I keep waiting for the website/book bomb to drop. For the record, that dude, his site, and a lot of the same stuff written by this "JadedHearts" poster does not work on emotionally stable women. They see right through it and just walk away. Not trying to start a flame war but I wanted to get this out there before momentum starts building for this dating "tactic." lol David Delangelo's **** works. Cocky/funny DDDEFINNNITEELLLY WORKS. Hahahaha argueing about it is like - I don't know, saying the sun doesn't exist. Hi, the sun exists. Also smart+intelligent+healthy women do in fact "fall for it". They regularly "fall for it"....they flirt? Pretty sure flirting isn't an unhealthy behaviour. At any rate we aren't argueing the merits of whether it works or not. **** off honestly. I wouldn't use cocky/comedy that directly. Like be careful where you take things with relationship stuff. You don't want her shy about talking about these things, or to be uncomfortable. Like specifically I wouldn't have used any lines when she said "I don't usually cave this early". I prefer misinterpreting things to be sexual from her, etc. to catch her off guard. I feel like if you say something like "Oh are you calling this a relationship already?" sets the wrong tone. You aren't trying to cocky-funny her all the way to the bedroom, it's just a way of amping attraction...
meerkat stew Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 One of the reasons I stay on this board is to help said guys find the light of confidence before they find the fake light of this BS system. Any guy can find the woman he wants but he needs confidence and it isn't going to come from a set of books written by some salesman promising them the world. Of course confidence isn't going to come from a book. Faith can come from books though, as can general and specific knowledge. Confidence can grow more readily in an environment of faith and knowledge, and if it takes a little hucksterism as one way to get guys to take that first step along the path to true inner worth and confidence, is that such a bad thing?
MyNameIsJonas Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 **** off honestly. Remember when I said I didn't want to start a flame war? Never said anything that deserved that remark. Good call, kid. Of course confidence isn't going to come from a book. Faith can come from books though, as can general and specific knowledge. Confidence can grow more readily in an environment of faith and knowledge, and if it takes a little hucksterism as one way to get guys to take that first step along the path to true inner worth and confidence, is that such a bad thing? Yeah but I would argue that the step is in the wrong direction. Behavior like that is good in very specific situations when you have the confidence; the problem I see is that this salesmen promotes doing it all of the time in place of confidence. Plus, as I said before, this type of behavior does not keep the right type of woman in the long run aka a relationship. Yes, everyone flirts and it is fun but intelligent mature (read "high quality") women get tired of it quickly. This is when the whole having actual confidence comes into play so you can adapt. The problem with David D's tactics is that it doesn't extend into this stage so the customer is left in the same place he was at in the start: alone, or even worse, at the short end of a dating stick with a immature, possibly crazy, girl.
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